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Sep-18-18, 
11:57 AM (MST)
"Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

Fyi, a couple of fires have resulted in pretty significant area closures in parts of G and H. Nonresidents hunting H will be particularly affected.

https://gacc.nifc.gov/gbcc/dispatch/wy-tdc/home/information/wildfires-incidents

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 Subject   Author   Message Date   ID 
 RE: Large Fire...  BrowningRage      Sep-18-18   1 
  RE: Large Fire...  rocky2track      Sep-18-18   2 
   RE: Large Fire...  bowhunter3      Sep-18-18   3 
    RE: Large Fire...  bugleb      Sep-18-18   4 
     RE: Large Fire...  Tknez      Sep-18-18   5 
      RE: Large Fire...  DoubleDropM...      Sep-18-18   6 
       RE: Large Fire...  bugleb      Sep-18-18   7 
        RE: Large Fire...  elkassassin      Sep-18-18   8 
         RE: Large Fire...  Tknez      Sep-18-18   13 
        RE: Large Fire...  bowhunter3      Sep-18-18   9 
        RE: Large Fire...  rocky2track      Sep-18-18   10 
      RE: Large Fire...  mulecreek      Sep-18-18   11 
       RE: Large Fire...  mntnguide      Sep-18-18   12 
        RE: Large Fire...  Tknez      Sep-18-18   14 
         RE: Large Fire...  Chesterwyo      Sep-18-18   15 
          RE: Large Fire...  DoubleDropM...      Sep-19-18   16 
           RE: Large Fire...  DoubleDropM...      Sep-19-18   17 
            RE: Large Fire...  opbuckslayer      Sep-19-18   18 
             RE: Large Fire...  hornkiller      Sep-19-18   19 
 RE: Large Fire...  BrowningRage      Sep-19-18   20 
  RE: Large Fire...  Kooper1021      Sep-19-18   21 
   RE: Large Fire...  Founder      Sep-19-18   22 
   RE: Large Fire...  rocky2track      Sep-19-18   23 
    RE: Large Fire...  Tknez      Sep-19-18   24 
     RE: Large Fire...  rocky2track      Sep-19-18   25 
      RE: Large Fire...  Tknez      Sep-19-18   26 
       RE: Large Fire...  rocky2track      Sep-19-18   27 
        RE: Large Fire...  Tknez      Sep-19-18   28 
         RE: Large Fire...  bugleb      Sep-30-18   29 

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BrowningRage
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Sep-18-18, 
12:48 PM (MST)
1. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

My dad's in G right now. Called yesterday to say he hasn't been evacuated yet, but the WYGF apparently went into some of the back country to clear out outfitters and the like. Must be pretty bad. I'm supposed to be heading up to meet him in 2 days and hunt through the weekend with him. Hopefully, that plan doesn't change.

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24

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Sep-18-18, 
01:34 PM (MST)
2. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

Look at the Inciweb page too. It was just recently updated. It's a DAMN mess!!

The Roosevelt Fire started along the Hoback River near Roosevelt meadows. Wind picked up and went from 80 acres to 3000. Burned up the south side of Hoback Peak and down into Jamb creek on the Upper Hoback Road. In the head of Kilgore Creek too. Jumped the road and river and is up on the South Rim of the Hoback burning towards the Jim Bridge Estates and Thunder Subdivisions in the South Beaver Area. All of the Cliff Creek, Upper Hoback, and the northern part of the Horse Creek as well as those subdivisions in the area has been evacuated. If the south winds pick up it has the potential to burn all of the Cliff Creek and Monument ridge area as well just outside of Bondurant. 5000 acres right now. The link below does not show the fire boundary as of this now as it has grown significantly east. https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/map/6212/2/88864

The Martin Fire started down in the bottom along the Greys River. Burning north/south down the Greys mostly on the east side. It has crested into the North Piney Creek country around Roaring Forks Lakes. Its sparse up top, but if the winds pick up and if it gets closer to the timber expect the North Piney Creek drainages to burn. The new closure area is from McDougal Gap/Sheep Creek/North Cottowood and south all the way to Long Hollow on the east side and including a large portion of the greys river road and trailheads to the west into the Salt River Range as the link below shows. 3500 acres right now.
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos/WYBTF/2018-09-17-1757-Marten/picts/2018_09_18-12.21.23.831-CDT.pdf


If your a Region H tagholder you may have to wait if you haven't come out yet or decide on moving areas. These closures have a significant impact on H as they're encompassing some of the highest hunter density hunt areas.

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Sep-18-18, 
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3. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

Not good news!! I am flying from New Zealand to hunt this area in three days. Anyone know how I can get more updates on this? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

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Sep-18-18, 
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4. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

The forest service is acting like a bunch of overcautious granneys. They have all the roads closed many, many miles away from where the fires are actually burning.

This morning, they had the Grays River road closed just above Bear Creek and they plan to keep moving the closure further north as the fire progresses.

Meanwhile, they are just letting it burn and they don't expect to get have it contained until the snow flies.

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Tknez
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Sep-18-18, 
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5. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

LAST EDITED ON Sep-18-18 AT 07:01 PM (MST)

LAST EDITED ON Sep-18-18 AT 07:00†PM (MST)

you say they are like a bunch of granneys while 2 people are sitting in the burn unit in Utah right now. A little background on this story, as that very hunting party was coming out they met up with a couple of forest service fire personal on the way out. At that time they were told they were NOT calling for an evac. but just for everyone to be very aware of the fire and changing conditions. A few hours later 2 of that very party that was on their way out was caught in the fire and now is in the hospital. They are very lucky to be alive! People the conditions up there can change in a second with wind speed and direction. That place is like a tinderbox, with miles of beetle kill and poor management of our forests over decades. NO animal is worth your life. BE CAREFULL

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DoubleDropMuley
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Sep-18-18, 
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6. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

Amen Tony!!!! Mother Nature can be unforgiving!!!! Prayers .

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bugleb
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Sep-18-18, 
07:55 PM (MST)
7. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

LAST EDITED ON Sep-18-18 AT 08:05 PM (MST)

It is one thing to be safe, and entirely another to have extreme overkill.

If you look at the maps on rocky2tracks post, you can see that the Rosevelt closed area extends up to 15 miles from the fire and the Martin Cr closed area extends up to 10 miles from the fire. How many days/weeks will it take to travel that far?

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Sep-18-18, 
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8. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

Did Founder & His Buddy Strike Up on their Way Out?

(((Kidding of Course!)))

Sorry to Hear that!


I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

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Tknez
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Sep-18-18, 
09:10 PM (MST)
13. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

Bugleb with all due respect you don't know what the hell you are talking about! I personally watched this fire travel miles in the matter of a night! When I left yesterday morning, and my hunting partners stayed on the mountain for at least 1 or 2 more days of hunting they watched it move more MILES over night and thankfully made the sound decision to get out of there this morning. The people that got caught in it had it move on them from a safe distance to in front of them in a matter of minutes when the wind picked up. More of my family hunting from camping trailers watched it as it started and slowly got closer at first. It started about 12 miles from them and they pulled out yesterday. That spot is now GONE!!!!! So you do what you want and good luck to you, but I sure hope no one else gets on here and looks at things like what you are typing and lets that in any way help them make a very stupid decision.

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Sep-18-18, 
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9. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

>LAST EDITED ON Sep-18-18
>AT 08:05†PM (MST)

>
>It is one thing to be
>safe, and entirely another to
>have extreme overkill.
>
>If you look at the maps
>on rocky2tracks post, you can
>see that the Rosevelt closed
>area extends up to 15
>miles from the fire and
>the Martin Cr closed area
>extends up to 10 miles
>from the fire. How
>many days/weeks will it take
>to travel that far?

I have thought the same thing.. Would be interesting to see more info if it is traveling quickly or what. Seems like a bit of overkill to me.

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Sep-18-18, 
08:31 PM (MST)
10. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

I'm as disappointed as everyone else as 70% of the areas I like to hunt are in the closure boundaries. But, the winds have been extremely shitty as of lately. I wish there was an updated map of the Roosevelt Fire but they haven't updated it now for 2 days. I'm getting reports from reliable sources that it went from the 5,000 acres to 22,000 acres today. 2 hours ago they evacuated Hoback Ranches Subdivsion as its screaming northeasterly now along the south rim with a southwesterly wind behind it like a sail. You should see the amount of aircraft in the air now when residential structures and property is on the line. Big lake scoopers and helicopters are coming in on our local lakes and I've heard they might be also scooping out of Palisades. That fire covered miles today.

Tomorrow there is supposed to be strong southerly winds so that Marten Fire could end up across from the elk feedground in the Grey's by evening time. Not much they can do if it goes screaming along on 30 degree slopes. Here's a cool pic from some dude in a plane today around 1:30 before the winds kicked it into overdrive this afternoon and as of this evening it was 5700 acres. Roosevelt Fire on the top, Marten Fire on the bottom, looking north.


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Sep-18-18, 
08:40 PM (MST)
11. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

Tony

Sent you a PM

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mntnguide
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Sep-18-18, 
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12. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

Im sure its hard for those not here to comprehend...but it looks like a damn Atom bomb has gone off every afternoon. The smoke plume is enormous. Both these fires are not just smoldering...they are covering country faster than you can. Hunters were caught in the early part and had to take cover in the river and sustained severe burns. There is a reason forest service is being so careful with closures, because with the winds we are having and predicted to have, these fires are not going out anytime soon. Im lucky to have tagged out my target buck on opener, otherwise this smoke would be a pain to deal with. But the closures are screwing my weekend elk plans just like many others who are dealing with it. There is a ton of fuel in the path of both fires, and they could grow very rapidly under certain circumstances. Hopefully they get them somewhat under control before they get to the housing areas.

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Tknez
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Sep-18-18, 
09:22 PM (MST)
14. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

I agree I understand that most can not comprehend just how bad this is and how fast it is moving. I would have probably been the same way had I not seen it first hand and also had so many people I know also have up close encounters with this. I am telling you the closures are there for a reason and it would be very wise to follow them.

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Sep-18-18, 
09:56 PM (MST)
15. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

Seems strange there wasnít a fire ban in place. Iíve seen fire bans on years that had far more moisture than this year has had.

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Sep-19-18, 
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16. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

>Seems strange there wasnít a fire
>ban in place. Iíve seen
>fire bans on years that
>had far more moisture than
>this year has had.


+1.

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Sep-19-18, 
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17. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

LAST EDITED ON Sep-19-18 AT 05:02 AM (MST)

I was in the area, and when I got the call I bailed from work early and got our camp out of there. When I showed up the fire was still a long ways away from our camp so I asked about it. They told me they were expecting wind change that could bring fire our way. Made since and thatís all it took. Peace out and until next time!!! The fire is cooking literally. Hot and fast. Hopefully temps cool down and some moisture comes. Looked like temps may drop but didnít look like and moisture called for in forecast.

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Sep-19-18, 
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18. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

I guess I will chime in on this debate since I have first hand experience watching this go from a small plume of smoke Saturday to jumping miles & ridges in hrs Monday night with patches off trees torching hundreds of feet in the air & enough heat to melt your skin off.

I get the disappointment of having a hunt interrupted or cut short as Iím riding home with a guy who did so but fire,wind & mother nature are nothing to play around with. Respect the USFS decision to protect people & themselves if conditions turn to worst case scenario. This is not a smoldering smoke show going no where, it is an inferno with lots of fuel to feed it. If the winds kick up you will be glad your not anywhere around.

As far as a fire ban, have we all lost our common sense and self responsibility? Itís warm,dry & the woods are a damn tinder box! Donít start a fire! It broke my heart to sit at my camp at 9700 ft and watch my favorite country in the whole world burn probably because of somebodyís poor decision!😢 Pray for Tknez familyís recovery & everybody make good decisions regarding this and stay safe. The last 10 days in Wyoming with my son & good friends have been some of the best ever regardless of a fire cutting it short!

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Sep-19-18, 
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19. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

Got evacuated yesterday. Both fires are blowing up lots of ground burned with no end in sight!

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Sep-19-18, 
09:46 AM (MST)
20. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

My dad and mom left last night from the Grey's River side. Said they moved their camp from the south end of the drainage almost 10 miles north, and the barricades apparently followed them in the night sometime. It's all closed off now to the south.

They chatted with the personnel at the barricades several times. They reported that 2 hunters apparently have died in the north fire, up the Little Grey's Drainage.

They also reported that they will have to just let the fire burn. It would be difficult to get resources in place anyway, even if all of those resources weren't already fighting the fires in Utah.

So, now my dad isn't sure where we should go hunt. We'll figure something out.

God Bless all those who have been affected, and those who may still be in harms way.

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24

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Sep-19-18, 
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21. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

What a sad deal my dad ran an outfitting business for 25+ year in that area our base camp sat where pinion creek and north piney creek joined together. My favorite and most memorable hunts and time with my dad weíre in that country. Hope it does not move over the ridge to the east

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Sep-19-18, 
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22. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

What a bummer deal. I didnít hear about two guys that died. Thatís horrible.
Itís been so dry up there, plus so much fuel. Lots and lots of dead trees.
Hopefully we get some wet weather soon.

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Sep-19-18, 
09:06 PM (MST)
23. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

>What a sad deal my dad
>ran an outfitting business for
>25+ year in that area
>our base camp sat where
>pinion creek and north piney
>creek joined together. My favorite
>and most memorable hunts and
>time with my dad weíre
>in that country. Hope it
>does not move over the
>ridge to the east

Good stuff there. Appreciate that history. I was in Marbelton today and could see pretty good up there. That Marten fire was booming good in the afternoon in the head of North Piney Creek and at another location south around the Box Canyon direction, perhaps on the Greys side. Hell the leading north edge on the Greys side must be 3 miles north of where it started. One of my buddy's confirmed with the USFS today that it was in Crow creek moving down into North Piney & Pinion. West winds tomorrow so....yeah, looks like that drainage and Coal Mine and Bare Mtns will be torched. Tons of old beetle kill in those areas.


Roosevelt Fire looks like its starting to take out the head of S. Fork of the Hoback area...damn big inferno as night was coming on. Reports are that there's a few cabins engulfed in Hoback Ranches area. A friend just let me know USFS is preparing the area north of HWY 191/189 along the North Rim going into Miner, Packer, Rim Draw, Sour Moose and N. Beaver Creek for possible closure as his coworker was bowhunting in there and was asked to leave the area today. South winds today like was forecasted, tomorrow suppose to be out of the northwest so for the Roosevelt Fire maybe that'll keep it from crossing the highway...

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Tknez
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Sep-19-18, 
09:32 PM (MST)
24. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

Rocky I am pretty sure most of the head of the south fork was torched already. My understanding is if a person was to draw a line from say the head of cascade creek to deadman somewhere right in the middle of that is where is originated.

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Sep-19-18, 
10:03 PM (MST)
25. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

>Rocky I am pretty sure most
>of the head of the
>south fork was torched already.
> My understanding is if
>a person was to draw
>a line from say the
>head of cascade creek to
>deadman somewhere right in the
>middle of that is where
>is originated.

Well this is what it looked like 13 hrs ago. Lower end of the South Fork had burned, but I'm thiking it got closer to Lookout Mtn.

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos/WYBTF/2018-09-17-1504-Roosevelt/picts/2018_09_19-09.31.38.166-CDT.pdf

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Tknez
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Sep-19-18, 
10:13 PM (MST)
26. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

good to know. I had heard from someone I knew that was hunting towards the head of the south fork that they needed to bail out of the on the 16th I believe. They must have been just being extra cautious which was a good thing.

It is crazy to think of all the bad weather we have had for the opening week of deer season over the past while and this year when we actually need it no moister in sight!

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Sep-19-18, 
10:24 PM (MST)
27. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

That's for damn sure. Totally on the other end of the spectrum this year compared to the last 3 years. Forecast is for 70 degree weather next week...uhgg.. Tonight the Sublette County Commissioners instituted a fire ban in Sublette County. Don't need any more dang fires right now...sheesh.. Yesterday a wildland fire was started west of Willow Lake by someone brushbeating the sagebrush off their property with a mower. Luckily...those air tankers where filling up just a couple miles away on Willow Lake and assisted with putting it out or else there would've been a damn fire roaring up into the Wind River Range.. so so dry this year.

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Tknez
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Sep-19-18, 
10:33 PM (MST)
28. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

I really fear that this one on the rim right now is going to be put out by the cliffs of the winds! I hope that isn't the case and I know those firefighter are working their A$* off to take care of it but with the weather being predicted it is going to be tough for them to get a handle on it. Sure glad they were right on the spot over on Willow lake.

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Sep-30-18, 
08:13 PM (MST)
29. "RE: Large Fires in Wyo G and H"

Well, the Forest Service finally pulled their heads about 1/16th of the way out by reopening the road through McDougall Gap. A FS employee told me last night that it was never supposed to have been closed, but it sure as shooting was closed for several days. With the Martin Creek fire over 80% contained, and rain predicted, they plan to reduce the size of that closure this week.

The Rosevelt fire rages on and is now considered the worst fire currently burning in the U.S. That means a whole elk unit is entirely closed and most of the moose unit we have a tag for remains closed to access.

Hopefully we get a lot of rain/snow this week and end this nonsense.

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