Time for legit Velvet Categories across B&C and P&Y

sharpshinned

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Guys, how do we get enough momentum going so we can establish legitimate categories for the velvet entries? All of them. After the drying period just measure them up, let the scores fall where they fall. We all know there is a bit creep with the velvet. But, I think the majority of us are ok with that. It is what it is. Simply as that. We know it wont be exact as the hard horn categories, but most are totally ok with it. I just want to see these beautiful trophies photographed, appreciated, recognized and remove the pressure to have them stripped. Let's help the leadership of B&C and P&Y to finally arrive. Then pull down all the velvet trophies hanging on the wall and get them entered, photographed and recognized...world records and all!...no asterisks or footnotes needed.
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-09-19 AT 06:11PM (MST)[p]P&Y already allows velvet entries? B&C does not and probably never will. Are you a member of either Club?

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
No, but I am avid follower of both clubs from the sidelines. They do have a velvet category, but, I don't think the P&Y club will recognize a velvet world record and it just doesn't seem like they treat that category like the others. Seems like they should for all common velvet trophies.
 
You?ll never have a say so or influence any type of change in either Club unless you become a member. It will be the best $35 a year membership you spend. Let me know if you'd like to join.

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
I thought this buck taken in Nevada in 2017 was already recognized officially as the new P&Y Typical Archery World Record Mule Deer?
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And recently there was this buck that was touted as the NEW World record P&Y Non-typical Archery World Record.
What gives? Are these Unofficial?
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-09-19 AT 09:53PM (MST)[p]>I thought this buck taken in
>Nevada in 2017 was already
>recognized officially as the new
>P&Y Typical Archery World Record
>Mule Deer?
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>
>And recently there was this buck
>that was touted as the
>NEW World record P&Y Non-typical
>Archery World Record.
>What gives? Are these Unofficial?
>
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NVPete:

Both of those photos are the current P&Y world records for their respective categories (typical & non-typical). The ?other? buck mentioned is a newly released buck that claims to surpass the current world record.....however, the velvet has not been stripped (required for world records) and it has not been panel measured (other requirement). As such it is a world class buck that may or may never be the world record.

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
It seems that this is about the possible new world record non typical mule deer.i agree with others if your not involved with either group it's hard to say let's start a new velvet categories. It sure looks pretty with the velvet, but let's see what it really looks like stripped
 
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I took this caribou in 2010 in the NWT. I had him scored by my neighbor (official B&C scorer) with the velvet on. (458" gross).
At the time that score would have put him in the top 10 in the Mountain Caribou category. But no way was I going to strip the velvet off this beautiful animal.
The bottom line is the velvet was part of what he was when I took him, and no numbers in any books will make up for that. He adorns my family room without being recognized by B&C and I don't really care.
 
Thanks guys,
I was not planning on bringing home a "bou" on this trip because it was primarily a Dall sheep hunt, but when we saw this guy I couldn't pass him up. I had no idea he was as big as he is until I walked up on him. His mass is pretty unreal. My taxidermist had him at the WH Expo the next year and even Jim Shockey was impressed.
I preserved the velvet by injecting it with formaldehyde which I had sent up to the outfitter prior to the hunt. I also ended up having to leave it in Canada with a taxidermist and have him make sure it was not dripping blood any more before it could be shipped back to the US. (Canadian rules at the time) It was not cheap, but well worth it to have him preserved as he was. Keeping the velvet on any animal is a process, but as you can see, I love furry horns.
 

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