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Hello skull. Any points in Utah? We have great Mule deer hunting in southern Utah. My wife and I are both interested in killing a bear. Be next year of course.

Has anyone used the great big 25/40x100 Oberwerks? They weigh something like 25 lbs and are used for looking at the stars but I've heard they work well for terrestrial viewing also.

I'm with jdh. We've been using an loving them for years. We've always been amazed that they haven't caught on a little better.

No offense.............Jack, but if jdh stands for Jeremy D. H. you ought to be taking notes. It was an honest and thoughtful reply to an honest question and right on the money. I'll bet that if you check the trails you are referring to on Oct. 6th you'll see very little movement. There will...

RE: Houston bucks... I apologize Den for not producing. I was sure I had him figured................. Ha Ha Good luck on your hunts. Not a bad year to have a tag it seems. kg

Here's and ironic twist: Opening day, after we had taken care of Micks buck and to kill some afternoon time, Jeremy agreed to show an old friend from Idaho around on the open side. There, in one of our public-land honey holes, surrounded by one billion hunters, he came face to face with an...

RE: Alton CWMU Thanks for all of the feedback and calls. I will also have a new home e- mail address available specifically for this purpose after today. It will be [email protected]. Thank you very much. Klint

I apologize for dragging this old ball and chain around in front of everyone again. This will be the last for me. If you are interested in doing something about the above concerns as they apply to the Pansagaunt, please read post #21 on the "CWMU fence" thread and contact me. Thanks...

RE: Alton CWMU For the record I would like to thank Adam Bronson, the biologist who recommended the cuts at the last meeting and apologize for not being there. I would also like to thank SFW who lobbied to cut tags in the first place. After a little research it has become obvious to me that...

"Doctor Valerius Geist!" Just rolls off the tongue. Wish I had a name that fun to say. Anyway Cass, it took nuts to post that on this thread - or maybe you're just stirring. I'm not sure if you are right or wrong - except on the Pansagaunt. There I'm sure you are wrong. I heard that the...

Chute planes make it too easy? Isn't this the only real rationale being put forth here? I agree - but I would sure like one. Then I would like the DWR to quickly assess the impact they are making on the herd and regulate them accordingly. Or have they already? Next question: If being...

Great points about the sheep. Those are the kind of arguments that have some validity. I would have thought a biologist or someone would have shown up by now too. Sounds like Fin little is a little more realistic than I about what would actually "fly" (sorry 30incher) on the Pansagaunt as far...

Money is the obvious question if you are talking about limiting tags. There is no question that some people are willing to pay more than they are now for the tag that provides a chance to kill a big mule deer. A few have posted here on this thread. Like you say, hunting is big business. When...

With some help to round the corners off my personal views (as you mentioned)I am willing to do whatever will help. Like I said, I fought this battle once in the early 90's and lost. I don't know how serious people really are. It is easy to casually type a few things to get a reaction and bat...

Point taken. Too much caffein. Gotta cut down. Like I said, this is a topic that hits close to home for me. Try as I might, I can't help but get wound up when I think of what we had, what we have now, and why.

OK - IMPROVE HABITAT! FIX IT! CAUSE IT TO RAIN! CAUSE THE DESERT TO BLOSSOM LIKE A ROSE! ...................I'm waiting................. CAN'T - CAN YOU. Then back to my point: start controlling the things you can, and do it based on the hand mother nature deals you. To assume weather a...

I'm not critical of SFW. I'm not critical of guides, sportsmen, family men, motorolla, lieca, pilots or even unethical sportsmen. In my book everyone is free to do, and pursue the way they see fit. Hell, lock em in and shoot em against the fence if the DWR isn't going to do anything about it...

Habitat?..... The Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument, The Paria Plateau National Monument, The Kaibab Plateau, The Arizona Strip....... These places haven't been significantly encroached upon or changed since I have been alive. The Feds have nearly guaranteed they will not be with...

Solutions to the problem may take thinking outside the box. What if someone suggested we all take a year off and hunt predators? Crazy? Or a start? What if someone suggested we do this and still pay a habitat fee to keep the fish and game afloat? "Cull only" youth hunts on the Pansagaunt...

I've been away from these sites for a time. Got tired of all the meaningless prattle. This is a topic that is dear to my heart however and I am glad to see that so many feel the same way I do. Maybe if enough get smart and fed up, it will be more than meaningless. I've read every post and...