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    WSMR bighorn

    sent PM
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    Desert Bighorn in Sacramento's?

    Good one.
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    Desert Bighorn in Sacramento's?

    The real issue based on my experience is regardless if we agree or disagree about wildlife management if no one attends these meetings or sends an email to the department none of it matters. To be perfectly honest the lack of public input on most topics has left the department to rely on local...
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    NM Siberian Ibex - Old Days

    LAST EDITED ON Jun-11-18 AT 03:34PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jun-11-18 AT 03:07?PM (MST) Kudu, Gemsbok, Siberian Ibex and Iranian Ibex. The only ones that really took were Gemsbok and Iranian Ibex which we know now as the Persian Ibex. All species were acquired from their native lands...
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    Texas School Shooting

    Couldn?t agree more.. Bobby
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    Texas School Shooting

    Nailed it!
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    Rhodes Canyon Youth Oryx

    This is going to be an awesome hunt for her. These are low pressure hunts. The success rate last year was 97%. NMDGF and WSMR game warden really cater to these kids especially on Sunday. If your having any issues just let me know, I'll be out there. WSMR will be sending you a lot of...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    Albuquerque meeting... Had 7 people show up including 2 WSMR representatives. Very little feedback. There were several older vets who had strong views to leave the vet designation for Iraq and afghan vets. Several wanted to see the Barbary hunts increased from 10 days to 15 days. The exotic...
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    Off Range Oryx!!!

    BrianID, Great questions.. a lot to respond to. Everyone hit on all your topics, but your more then welcome to call me anytime 575-993-6066. Good Luck..
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    LAST EDITED ON May-08-18 AT 08:41PM (MST)[p]BrianID, The Las Cruces meeting had 14 people including two commissioners and two WSMR representatives. My hope is many are emailing their comments. That being said discussion was good. Game and Fish, did a good job presenting the proposals and...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    MM, Game and Fish has posted the official proposed Hunt Structure options for Oryx. I was real happy to see they provided the public an opportunity to compare the proposals before the town meetings next week...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    Yes, there is time. That's why the meetings and your feedback is important to the department. The department will present a recommendation to the commission on May 22nd and then in June the commission will make final vote on that recommendation so now is the time to get your feedback in. Thanks
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    Servehim, There is no question they would thrive. The only limiting factors these animals have is long exposure to very cold weather. There is no terrain in the southern United States they would not occupy. They live in juniper/pinon woodland forests to the sand dune from 8,000 feet of...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    NMhunter4life, You have a legit view. I've had several people tell me the same thing. Ultimately, I hope everyone expresses themselves so the department and commission have a good foundation on how to structure these hunts based on everyone feedback. Please forward your feedback to the...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    Reuben_ Soady, Good job with the update. You did a fair and objective comparaison with legit questions for hunters to answer for themselves. Please share your views with the department via email or at a meeting. Thanks
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    Oryx OIL

    LAST EDITED ON Apr-27-18 AT 06:43PM (MST)[p]Yeah I am not for a point system.overall, look at UTAH! That being said if there was a way for those waiting 20 years for a tag to have more an opportunity to draw that tag.. I think it's worth a discussion at least.
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    LAST EDITED ON Apr-27-18 AT 06:37PM (MST)[p]Ruben_Soady, Thank your for taking the time to provide your feedback. Your exactly right it's nice to have options. Currently, you won't find the proposals online and that's the exact reason I made this post before the survey so hunters could be more...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    Abqbw, Thank you for taking the time to really break this down. There is one thing I would like to make clear, that I thought I had previously made.. First, I am not speaking on behalf of WSMR or the department. Second, WSMR is mandated by the federal government by the Sikes act to manage all...
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    YOUR OPINION MATTERS - SURVEY - REALLY

    Gilacoues1, I was able to speak to the commission and ask them exactly that. What is a OIL Hunt? I explained to them for the first time in Oryx management history the public has an opportunity to have a choice on how they want to hunt oryx. We have two good proposals that were presented...
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    YOUR OPINION MATTERS - SURVEY - REALLY

    nmhntr, Thank you for your feedback. I am fortunate to have a supportive program manager at WSMR, Patrick Morrow, who has been managing Oryx for 30 years or more. We also have a group of biologist that I work with daily that provide valuable insight. We are fortunate we have a strong...
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    YOUR OPINION MATTERS - SURVEY - REALLY

    Thank you for your feedback. Please email it to the department or attend a meeting. For clarification.. The population in the CORE hunt areas which is Stallion and Rhodes is currently 3,000 - 3,500 animals and climbing fast. In 2010, the population in those same core areas was 2,900-3,300...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    264mag, We will never lose Oryx hunting on WSMR. The situations below would be the only reasons why hunting on WSMR would stop temporarily or permanently. - Act of War near or on the mainland. - Terrorist attack on the mainland. - A deadly hunter accident. WSMR prides themselves on safety...
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    YOUR OPINION MATTERS - SURVEY - REALLY

    The great thing is WSMR has always cooperated with the Department. This isn't a biological management issue it is a social one. The department and WSMR work hard together to come up with management goals and proposals. The department as the authority over state animals and have always considered...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    Servehim, Your not the only one with this idea. Unfortunately it would take a act of Congress in this day and age to get something like that done for an exotic spieces. When consider blm, forest service, US Fish and Wildlife service and other agencies it would be impossible in my opinion...
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    YOUR OPINION MATTERS - SURVEY - REALLY

    6pm. If you can't make the meeting send your feedback. It's important. Regardless your view.
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    YOUR OPINION MATTERS - SURVEY - REALLY

    Hey Phil... I will be at all three. At least Albuquerque and the Las Cruces one.
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    I was also confused. The survey needed more in-depth questions. I was expecting so much more. Paul, your feedback via email to the department will be just as good. Thank your for getting the public involved. You can set your fears aside, WSMR, and the department have no intention now or in...
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    YOUR OPINION MATTERS - SURVEY - REALLY

    Any one read their ORYX Survey from the department? I don't know how many of you read all the information I have supplied here on a previous post, http://www.monstermuleys.info/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.pl?az=show_thread&om=7681&forum=DCForumID34&omm=0 ,but if you have and you took the...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    Any one read their ORYX Survey from the department? I don't know how many of you read all the information I have supplied here, but if you have and you took the survey you would have seen there is a HUGE lack of information between the survey and what I have provided. Those 2 questions will...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    I understand and you make great points. This is why the public needs to provide their input. I wish the survey would have been objective and more information so you could respond accordingly, I will speak to the survey in a bit. Thank you for your feedback it's greatly appreciated.
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    LAST EDITED ON Apr-25-18 AT 01:52PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Apr-25-18 AT 01:46?PM (MST) MEETINGS HAVE BEEN SET! Las Cruces: 6 to 7 p.m. May 7 at the Department of Game and Fish office, 2715 Northrise Drive. Roswell: 6 to 7 p.m. May 8 at the Department of Game and Fish office, 1912 W. Second...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    live4muleys, 50-65 tags per hunt in my opinion provides a quality hunting experience, a true once in a life time hunt. People are not following you down a two track trying to pass you or when your on a 1 mile stalk and truck drives by 50mph, jumps out and takes a shot. Due to lower licenses the...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    throwfar, First off, thank you for your service! I don't think they would remove the OIL designation, they have agreed with WSMR recommendation to remove the Iraqi/Afgan designation to open the hunt up to all resident Veterans. The department stance right now is maximize OIL opportunity so that...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    muleymann99, It would be nice to have 50-65 tags to keep that quality, but they have to find a balance to meet increasing Oryx numbers. In regards to your hunt, you will definitely have a opportunity to hunt the range like a true OIL hunt should be like. Thank you again for your feedback.
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    10-4 thank you.
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    LAST EDITED ON Apr-24-18 AT 02:37PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Apr-24-18 AT 02:35?PM (MST) LAST EDITED ON Apr-24-18 AT 02:34?PM (MST) Truth be told.. both proposals were presented to the department for consideration. Again, WSMR objectives will be met with either proposal. The question is how do...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    rockn9858, Thank you for your feedback. I'll try to see how that could work. In your scenario right of the bat WSMR couldn't schedule a hunt of that magnitude on short notice. Plus physical security will not be happy they spent the manpower running background checks on people in advance that may...
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    BrianID, I hope to see you there or at least find a way to express your views. Quality seems to be the theme for the most part so far.
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    iccyman001, That is exactly why they recommended that, both proposals will remove the Iraq or Afghan requirement and make it open to all Vets starting in 2019. Which proposal do you prefer iccyman001?
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    CALLING YOU OUT NMPAUL & MM!!

    NMPaul, Thank you for taking the time to provide your feedback. The more people that voice their opinion on which proposal they prefer the better informed the department and the commission will be to make the right decision. Say hello to Zack for me and thank you for spreading the word. Hope...
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