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I'll let you know if he pulls the tag! 👍

Absolutely - especially if my boy draws his Bonanza pronghorn tag. If we could time the tour during the hunt, we could even shoot one and take bets on the age of the buck once the tooth lab does the aging. sound good?

did you read the article? They acknowledge differences from area to area: "Studies of pronghorn from Colorado north to Montana and Alberta consistently show pronghorn achieving a plateau in horn size by 2 – 3 years of age. Pronghorn in New Mexico and Arizona may have peak horn size later...

That "somebody else posted it" happens to be arguably the most knowledgeable pronghorn outfitter in the country and the most respected conservation org around, but what do they know...right?!?!? I will take their opinion as "GOSPEL" over some yokel in the basin. Surprise, surprise though - I...

Those are some of the best pics I have ever seen - great job on such a mysterious and cool animal!!

Let's see your data from your own study - I am sure it is pretty reliable. Should I take the word of a plumber out in the basin or the word of the two guys that know more about trophy pronghorn than anyone else on this planet? To add to that, here is a bit from the Boone & Crockett website -...

Heck of a bull moose there-congrats!!

Bess - you are entertaining and this place would not be the same without you, but I think I am going to take Eli and Tony Grimmett's word on antelope over yours. No offense intended :ROFLMAO:

Condition of the animal is probably more important than moisture. Animals were hammered through the tough winter of 2022-2023. They should be in great condition coming out of this most recent winter. Groceries do matter though

should be a banner year this year with wet/mild winter and good moisture through the spring thus far- of course I have very little chance of drawing a tag.

Well Bess - this buck below was killed by the preeminent outfitter for Pronghorn (Eli & Tony Grimmett) and they guessed him to be 3 years old. The buck scored 90". Pretty well known that Pronghorn are much different than deer and elk and reach maturity at age 2-4. I know you don't like facts...

2000 Utah Moose (drawn with zero points 😉) Sorry for the crappy pic 2022 Utah Rocky Mtn Bighorn Sheep (California subspecies) drawn with 21 points Now on to Desert Bighorn Sheep-hope I can draw before I am too old to walk!!

Cool bull Slammy! Who killed that one and what unit (assuming Utah)?

Thanks - I agree with you that Preference Point systems are the worst by far. I am not sure how I feel about the all random approach - has some merit for sure. I do think Utah's 50:50 BP/Random approach for LE/OIL is the best compromise of all the systems out there currently.

I'm genuinely curious in understanding your thoughts on the best approach or system to manage "species where the number of hunters swamps the number of available permits"?

Where you moving to?

100% agree!!

Wrong

If a point system is required, I think Utah's system is the best overall: 50/50 Bonus point/Random

Draw or raffle tags only (no more Auction or Governor tags) and those hunts should not be a year long. I personally think these hunts should be slotted in already existing seasons/units or maybe have a minor advantage of a week or so, but nothing crazy. The auction and governor tags bring too...

100% true and a reality on the mid-season hunts. My son had a mid-season tag on the Wasatch last year and it was a zoo for sure. That being said, if you have the points and can hunt the Beaver unit now (on any hunt), I would get on it quick. The unit is large and getting away from other...

I would take the Beaver mid-season rifle tag over all units every day and twice on Sundays if it were me.

What midseason or muzzy hunts can you draw with your NR points?

Pahvant or Monroe archery are best bet for a 350+ bull if only considering those 4 units and hunts, IMO. Bulls that size are not as common any more on those units (or any units for that matter with possible exception of Beaver, Boulder, and San Juan). I hunted the Pahvant on the muzzy hunt in...

The last deer I killed in Utah was in 2014 on a general muzzy tag on the Boulder unit (have killed several deer in Colorado and AZ since then). I am way past the point of "needing" to kill a deer, but I couldn't care less about what other hunters do that have a tag and do it legally...

Great buck and taxidermy work!

Congrats to your boy and you!!

Wait him out until he stands and hope the wind doesn't change. The bedded shot is too risky at 58 yards IMO.

How were the deer population #'s and tag #'s back then for 'ol Beckwourth? Were they doing a lot of F-IN Stupid SH!!!T back then too? Asking for a friend :ROFLMAO:

You are 100% right on that one - though the "guiding" "controlling" and "owning" in Utah comes from one source...SFW and other special interest groups . Until that changes, Biologists can only do so much.

I have loved the meat from my Utah bighorn sheep. The tenderloins were some of the best wild game meat I have ever had. Definitely put it in the top 3 of wild game meats for me (Sheep, Pronghorn, Elk)

Love big 5’s. Really nice job on the taxidermy there!

Can’t fault you for saving a doe or two!

My first mature bull on the wall and my biggest bull on the floor as a euro mount.

Makes sense...He's too busy blowing a gasket on MM every day to actually hunt anyway!! :ROFLMAO:

Gorgeous mount Ross!

And that is perfectly ok...Soccer is probably more suited for you anyway