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If they wouldn’t qualify today, they need to be removed. I know the country well, and there is only a few of the producing properties that have water. A lot of these properties are perfect examples of why SCR needs eliminated. How many similar properties have you bought to play the E- Plus...

Here is a perfect example of my issue with E-Plus. These are definitely not one offs. The majority of these properties are owned by people in TX, MT, CO, ND, FL etc. Many bought for the sole purpose of E-Plus. I have personally seen some of these properties, and many do not have any water...

How you can get liberal out of my argument is beyond me, but go with it if that’s all you’ve got. Wouldn’t arguing to keep a government subsidy (in some cases) a liberal ideology?

“The little guys are important too (in habitat on SCR ranches), and the revenue is even more important to them to keep the doors open.” A large portion of SCR is non producing properties, so, “keeping the doors open”. Is a red herring. If this conversation was framed in any other subject...

The seller has asked for cash with every authorization I have bought. I have always thought it would be interesting to see the total claimed on sales vs the reality. I agree that RO properties have a lot more at stake when it comes to being “elk friendly” vs a UW property. A UW authorization...

Funny how that works. You can argue that something needs changed that you utilize. Who’d of ever thought. Hope it works out for you.

It’s funny how so many of you go to jealousy if someone is against parts of E-Plus, I have not seen anyone call for an elimination of E-Plus. (Maybe I missed it?) Lots of assumptions made, I have bought authorizations. Depending on a few other things in the works, I might buy one this year as...

Public land that you can hunt any species. Have only seen it dry up once in 3 years for a couple weeks.

We can definitely agree that the smaller places that mostly utilize public land grazing and strictly deeded operations are a different conversation. This separation is a lot of my issue with SCR. As mentioned above, I’ve always thought if LO’s, hunters and the outfitting industry could ever...

Quote me where I said anything about improvements benefitting wildlife are bad thing. It’s not there. If you read my posts, you’ll see I look at cattle operation improvements differently than improvements strictly with wildlife in mind. I could care less if he’s a resident or NR. The question...

You are way off base if you think I’m jealous or hate anyone. Pretty bold statements when you have no idea of my wealth or what I do or don’t own. Believe it or not, you’re not the Lone Ranger on hard work to get where you are. Your reading comprehension is lacking if you read any hate towards...

This is a perfect example of my biggest problem with SCR and E-Plus. People buy 5/10/20 acre “ranches” that they can some how get water to, or sneak through the cracks like many, and receive authorizations because they’ve found in the long run, they are money ahead and have more opportunity...

If you winter a bunch of yearlings on said 15 acres, and I don’t want them destroying my wife’s landscape, it’s my responsibility to fence out your yearlings. I understand elk aren’t livestock, but the argument has always seemed a bit hypocritical to me. Like mentioned, NMDGF will provide the...

This is a good discussion. Do wildlife/hunters benefit from the above water project? Absolutely, but you cant lose track of that is a cost of business in his chosen profession. Every business has operating expenses, and many people directly/indirectly benefit, that doesn't mean they are all...

Eliminate SCR, no one should be receiving authorizations with 2/5/20 acres. How many land splits has a well known Western NM outfitter and others done gaming the system? Yes, the point system has helped mitigate some of this. Don’t know the “right” acerage, but have a minimum acreage to...

No way I could agree with your 95%. E-plus needs an overhaul to make it more equitable to some of the SCR as well. SCR needs completely eliminated. The SCR formula is not equitable to some properties that are a big benefit to wildlife, but are put into SCR due to the formula. A Property we know...

What about the larger RO properties using water/pasture rotation as a means of baiting/holding wildlife during the fall, especially in dryer years. I know of 2 wells on public that are shut off every year around 8/1 like clock work. Anyone that has hunted central NM much should know exactly...

Obviously there will never be full agreement on this subject. I don’t think anyone can honestly say that some LO’s are not a great asset to wildlife, but at what expense is where the lines get drawn. Is piping water less than 1/2 mile from a public ground spring to deeded worth a $10,000 MB...

I know quit a few ranchers that will be interested to know they don’t have enough waters per MM.

I think you are confusing a few things. The weighted score applies to the base properties (a property that receives at least one authorization), they do not draw for authorizations. Any property not receiving one whole authorizations is put into SCR where they have to draw yearly for 1...

UW authorizations do not incentivize LO’s to do any of that. The authorization is worth the market value of the unit regardless if an elk ever steps on the deeded ground or not. I know too many UW authorization recipients to believe that for a second. UW recipient’s have no reason to want to...

I guess it sounds good in theory, but no way it will ever happen. The amount of money being paid for leases and/or buying properties has become staggering. Well into 6 figures being paid for leases on some places, no way the AG industry is going to allow UW authorizations across the board. From...

This subject always brings out the divide. The elimination of E-Plus that NMWF, BHA and others are pushing for is the wrong answer and it seems many would agree. I’ve asked NMWF multiple times what the plan was for all the RO authorizations and have never got a straight answer. In some units...

Where is the meaningful benefit? I have personally seen these properties and they do not have the water everyone falls back to. Why does a small cabin site with a stream that runs for miles up and down stream of the property on USFS land get water points? NMDGF got rid of a lot of properties...

E-Plus IMO needs a major overhaul. No one should be receiving authorizations for 2/10/20 acres, SCR needs to be eliminated. A person can easily find numerous properties that leave you scratching your head. The equal access issue has been an issue more than once for us. Before people start...

So far just about every gun control measure has made it passed committee. “It won’t happen here” is fixing to happen. We will be with NY and California on some of the strictest gun laws in the nation.

This is being heard by the second committee tomorrow after getting through the first. Call, e-mail everyone on the committee. https://www.nmlegis.gov/Committee/Standing_Committee?CommitteeCode=HJC

I probably worded it wrong. It sounds like all the same people of NMSFW?

Just out of curiosity, it sounds like NMSFW under another name?

I have a good understanding of the program and would say NMDGF had a good frame work for a good program, but allowed politics and Jennings Law to taint it.

This property is not a one off by any stretch of the imagination. What meaningful benefit does this property have? How does the property benefit the average draw hunter? Who is the only one benefitting? Who is going to hunt this “ranch”? Before someone brings it up, yes, it is an SCR property...

E-Plus, like many .gov programs started out with good intentions, but morphed into something it never should have. The conversation needs to be broke out into producing “ranches/property” and hobby property. A good portion of property enrolled are nothing more than recreational properties...

The conspiracy theories are running. The bull has/had been seen by others. Theres a reason some of the biggest animals killed are never seen on the www.

Have/had SG, Kifaru and Exo. Packs are like boots IMO, what’s great for one, may not work for another. Kifaru IMO is the best built pack of the 3, but did not work for me no matter how hard I tried. The frame is very rigid which is nice with a heavy load, but not so much in day pack mode. If...

It was surprising. Especially the bow hunters that use sliders, carbon arrows, mechanical broad heads, etc arguing “primitive”. I can see the validity for some deer hunts, but it makes absolutely no sense for elk when NMDGF is saying elk herds are either stable or increasing.

Now it’s time to go after turrets and sliders.

Doesn’t get better than that..Congrats to the young lady and everyone else.

Impressive..Congrats.

Count them!!!