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73k apps last year for 22k public elk tags, everyone can't draw. Same old schtick. New faces crying. Nobody mentions the number of LO tags that aren't converted. That's a figure that doesn't fit the agenda. Sounds a lot like the old "landowners are stealing your tags, join NMWF". The fact...

Not really. 84% of one is one. Good call on redoing the app.

16B for sure.

One tag. Residents only. Surprising how many NR and outfitted applied last year. Wasted choice.

I'd recommend applying with an outfitter that has experience hunting bighorn sheep ?

That is not the case. The group apps will be thrown out if there aren't tags available. G&F will round up the NR allotment for tags, ie 2.5 becomes 3. 1.5 becomes 2 etc. This is where you are seeing the extra tag.

Nice bull. Congrats. Are we talking Pueblo or Boulder? I'll add 40 B&C points for a people?s republic of Boulder bull ?

Thanks guys, I'll show him the replies. He?s in process of cleaning and degreasing the skull for a euro

Way to go hombre. The kids remember these trips for a lifetime

LAST EDITED ON Nov-12-17 AT 11:13PM (MST)[p]My 16 year old son was lucky enough to fill his third season tag. Not bad for his first buck. I bought him an otc bull tag, never saw an elk. Took 4 1/2 days to find deer. Once we did, the boy had a 325 yard shot with a good rest, but the buck moved...

Honestly, your best bet will be to get the forest map in front of you and call the forest.

Score High gunsmithing. Scorehi.com Charley does top notch work that shoots I had him barrel an action, so it wasn't a complete build but I did go back to him for a brake and bedding job. My handloads shoot .3 if I do my part. He built a complete lightweight 300wm for a friend that shoots...

I'm not surprised

NMDGF is doing elk counts.

I have an elk cape cut long and freezer burned if that helps. I'm just north of ABQ. Send a pm if you want it

Stainless Ruger boat paddle 7mag, timney trigger and dies $450 Remington 788 22-250 with Minox 3-9x40 brass and dies $400 Henry Golden Boy 22LR new in box $375 I'm outside Bernalillo, but can bring to Clovis Monday, possibly more SE parts of the state once I know my schedule. Ads and pics on...

Here's a 290 TMZ from 100 yards, shot bull through front shoulder, recovered under hide. I have confidence in these mz bullets

One last thought. I have a great big I TOLD YOU SO waiting for you and your old friends at NMWF when the Caldera gets thoroughly pooched. It's already started, if you hadn't heard. You wanted big government, you got it buddy. You can't come on here, hit and run a thread and then cry about...

How bout YOU put up or shut up Jason? I see two valid questions for you, yet you won't answer them. Typical, "don't attack me, I don't speak for NMwF" same old same old.

So, is NMWF pro trapping and anti wolf now? We've already been run the hell over in regards to wolves, or is your head in the sand? Get Garret V and Joel Gay to stand loud and proud against wolves and pro cougar trapping and I'll donate 10K to NMWF right f'n now.

RAD! Any numbers legible?

Sorry about the crappy pics, these are pics off a video from a screen. The second one gives you an idea of the mainbeams.

Is water wet?

I thought working for the .gov and voicing political opinions was frowned upon.....

Nice work. Love those high country bulls.

Awesome. I wish I had an uncle like you growing up.

That turned out really nice. I'm glad you got one with both horns and ears!

Sounds like a personal decision. I wish him the best. That article is typical of the trash SF reporter publishes.

It's fine, as is the Adobe. I stay there off and on in the summer for work, and when I take my son on the late youth hunt down there. The food over at the adobe is the best in town, closed on goofy days though. Highway 180 and 12. Same owner.

Once again, you have missed the point entirely. When you and your cronies step up side by side with anti hunting groups to lobby for this legislation everyone will start to understand where you are coming from. Ever consider that the other orgs don't want to talk to you?

Paul-I think your wife's chances of drawing a burned unit are getting better by the day. Thanks for keeping this on the top Jason. What was the outcome of your board meeting, or did I miss that? Has anyone writing the NMWF spin taken into account our prolonged drought in NM? Has anyone...

Jim- It had 138 signatures as of this afternoon. You can click the link to the petition, then on the signature tab see the total. Lots of familiar names on there opposing this senate bill, hope to see some more. Thanks to those that have signed, if you haven't yet please consider it.

Good. Let us know how much you spent when it is all said and done. Too bad you couldn't do the same for the trapping lawsuit.

Jamaro: Please explain for us unwashed masses exactly what NMWF is doing. Are you paying the legal fees for G&F, or are you supplying counsel for them? All I see is a lot of chest thumping, when NMDGF is doing the heavy lifting. And for the record, before I get accused otherwise, I...

What name did I call you? Are you sensitive that you are a BOD of a group that is perceived as environmental extremists? Keep on sending out your anti Alaskan mining emails and open your eyes dude.

"SCI - fought against us on SB196 and Terk and has consistently sided with LO,OF,etc... and has always been about the money and not the average hunter.." This is what I asked you about. And this is your reply? Show me where SCI opposed overturning Terk. This is what I mean. You are FOS...

Let's clarify a few things. The turkey tags for VC are over the counter. No turkey tag was auctioned, it was a trespass authorization. Isn't that one of the things NMWF fights so feverishly for? Or only when it benefits your anti outfitter/landowner agenda? We're still waiting on the elk...

I had heard the same thing through the grapevine. NMWF won't be alone in DC, you'll see all of the regular players involved with this bill. National Wildlife Federation, Sierra Club, CBD, WEG, etc.

Since when is it the concern of NMWF where Congressional appropriations go? Are you aware that the VC is grazed and logged now? NPS has a track record of preservation, not conservation. They are the wrong government entity to take over VCNP. How, pray tell is NPS going to manage it? The...