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    A Possible Solution to Increase Utah's Muley Numbers

    One of the problems with decreasing deer numbers could be Chronic Wasting Disease. Along with the drought, predator numbers and too high of permits as well as numerous different hunting seasons --- Mule deer herd numbers will continue to struggle. Went to the CRAC and Wildlife Board meetings...
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    Proposed Expo Changes

    Well the debate rages on. As far as the money raised from the $5 fee-- I can only tell you that while I was on the RAC we were given info concerning the projects funded by the 30% as well as money that the conservation group spent from their 70% on projects. The contract specifies that the money...
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    Antlerless deer hunts are bad?

    LAST EDITED ON Jan-02-18 AT 10:54AM (MST)[p]Another angle on this-- I have often felt that the DWR should not count animals that are on private ground in the overall population numbers if the general public is not allowed to have access or hunt those animals that are located there. They should...
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    Cougars, Cougars, Cougars

    Originally I was given information that cougars killed on average 1 deer per week. Read a study finished last year and the conclusion was that a cougar will kill on average 2 to 2.5 deer per week. They are opportunists, they will kill even when they are not pushed by hunger. Its who they are...
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    Cougars, Cougars, Cougars

    There are a few units in southern Utah that are basically year round harvest objective units for cougar. I tried to get the RAC and DWR to at least entertain the idea of making all cougar units year round harvest objective with the exception of an LE season. That idea got nowhere. The houndsmen...
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    Long Range Gunners

    Had an experience that brings a question in regards to long range shots -- 1000 yds plus. A guy was shooting at least that far just off the road. Took 2-3 shots. The deer was not huge, just a small 2 point. After the shooting was over he eventually left and drove on down the road. The deer had...
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    Late season Muzzy hunts on General Season Units

    According to one of the RAC members, if the proposal goes through and is accepted it will decrease the numbers of general season tags by 2-3 permits per every late season muzzy LE tag issued. The number of late season muzzy tags would only be in the 5 -10 permits for each unit. I believe that...
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    Late season Muzzy hunts on General Season Units

    DWR is proposing late season (early November) muzzy hunts on all General Season units meeting the minimum buck/doe ratios (15 on some 18 on others) They would be treated as Limited Entry hunts and bonus points would be used. What do you think of this proposal?
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    Good short read.

    In a RAC meeting a while back, we were informed of "smart guns" Weapons that are already available. they acquire the target ( at whatever distance, I assume) dial the cross hairs in so that the weapon is at the correct elevation,windage etc, can even pull the trigger for you-- boom. Long range...
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    Conservation Group members & LE permits

    It would be a major task to get the ear of the RACs and the WB if we can't get one of the established Conservation Groups to help. They definitely are well organized enough to have some leverage. You get one of them to state they are supportive of giving up a few conservation tags on an every...
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    Conservation Group members & LE permits

    I hope this will help clarify to some where I stand on this issue. I've had some report in some committees and groups there is some sinister attempt to take away the money from the conservation groups--untrue. To those who are doing it am not calling for the conservation program to go...
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    Conservation Group members & LE permits

    Scubo wrote-Even if you got half of the auction tags returned to the draw, the odds on most of those units are already so astronomical that there would be absolutely no difference in your draw percentage. Except for the 50-60 guys who wouldn't have drawn if there were a few more tags that came...
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    Conservation Group members & LE permits

    The fact of the matter is that you need a group of sportsman and ideally a Conservation Group to carry this to the RACs. The DWR most likely won't go with it unless there is support from one or more of the Conservation groups. Money is the bottom line and whether or not the different groups can...
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    Conservation Group members & LE permits

    That's not such a bad idea ! After all the entire state is a draw unit--
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    Conservation Group members & LE permits

    One thing that I became concerned about was that when the division cut LE tags in certain units because of not meeting Harvest age Objectives over a 3 year period ( which I applaud them for doing), the auctions tags (conservation tags) for that particular unit were not cut. So that essentially...
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    Conservation Group members & LE permits

    The number of tags that are awarded to conservation Groups are allotted to the ones have shown their ability to market/auction (bring in the most money). The number of tags have stayed the same pretty much over the past several years now , so I just used the 50% rather than a specific number to...
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    Conservation Group members & LE permits

    This is to all members of the conservation groups in this state-- MDF,SFW, FNAWS, RMEF UBA etc. I believe there is a need to tell your leadership that its time to scale back the conservation auction tags (bucks and bulls) and return aprox. 50% of them back into the public LE draw pool on an...
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    Mountain Lions

    A number of years ago when it was still the open bull elk hunting era, a friend of mine and a couple of our sons went elk hunting. I went out on one ridge, along with one of my sons my friend went on an adjacent ridge. Soon after the sun came up I heard a shot from their direction. Headed back...
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    Time to Shift Permits back into Public LE draw

    I want to make it perfectly clear that the folks at the DWR are good people that I support in their efforts to manage our wildlife resources. Sometimes these threads wander into territory that doesn't have a lot to do with the original intent of the subject. One thing is clear to me-- we will...
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    Time to Shift Permits back into Public LE draw

    I think it would be good to remember that the auction/conservation tags were set in place to help conservation organizations run their orgs and to raise money for habitat improvement projects, transplants, mitigation, other projects etc. As far as I know, the money isn't used specifically to...
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    Time to Shift Permits back into Public LE draw

    That's a good option. thanks
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    Time to Shift Permits back into Public LE draw

    I can tell that you know very little about the parameters and triggers that are in place that have come about through biologist input, RAC meetings, committee meetings etc. Its easy for you to say just put more hooves on the ground-- mother nature has the last say in regards to that. You see...
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    Time to Shift Permits back into Public LE draw

    LE Buck deer-- 27 units About 40% of the land in the state. LE Elk -- 26 units- about 50% of the land in the state. Look on the DWR website for the listings for these and all of the other species and their respective units-- antelope, bear, turkey ............ Tri, I figure you're a more...
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    Utah Wildlife director to Washington!!!!

    Sorry, it is Deputy Director-- my mistake.
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    Time to Shift Permits back into Public LE draw

    Lets face it- Utah is a public state - not near as private as Texas. The management of wildlife here is in great measure determined by budget constraints. The conservation tags have been a huge boost in providing funding for habitat work, transplants etc. I personally feel that a lot has been...
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    Time to Shift Permits back into Public LE draw

    There is no question that the conservation permit money has allowed the DWR to greatly improve wildlife mitigation and the transplants that have taken place. I just personally feel its time to give back to the sportsman of this state a portion of those tags. Putting back those conservation tags...
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    Utah Wildlife director to Washington!!!!

    Greg Sheehan chosen to head up the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services. Hoping the best for him, wildlife will be in good hands if he can deal with all the politics. Mike Fowlkes will be Utahs interim director. He's a good man to have there.
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    Time to Shift Permits back into Public LE draw

    Not sure you can do anything about the 200 Expo tags right now. they are under contract to the Expo partners for the next few years. However I do think that going forward everyone who is interested should go to the RAC meetings, e-mail RAC and WB members and express your concern. I know this LE...
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    Time to Shift Permits back into Public LE draw

    It was announced that two new members have been chosen to be on the WB, I don't believe that either one has ties to SFW. They still need to be confirmed by the legislature. They are Karl Hirst from the Central RAC, who I can trust will do a great job and Kevin Albrecht chairman of the SE RAC...
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    Time to Shift Permits back into Public LE draw

    I believe that much good has come out of the conservation tag auctions. Five more sheep units, habitat work etc. With the number of quality CWMUs for elk and deer, I think its time to start swinging the pendulum back the other way. Many CWMU's have high quality animals on them and those who are...
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    Time to Shift Permits back into Public LE draw

    Not worried about being flogged. Just my opinion after seeing the direction of where "public hunting" is going. I just believe its time to pull back in regards to high dollar permits and give them back to the "public". I am sure that the big game biologists don't much care in a biological...
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    Time to Shift Permits back into Public LE draw

    I've been involved with the RAC system for years now and I've seen the money that the auction tags have brought in. That money has enabled the DWR to make great strides in transplants and habitat projects that would have not been possible before. However, with the increasing commercialization of...
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    284 Winchester is it a good calibur

    Is model 99 the carbine style?
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    284 Winchester is it a good calibur

    I've owned a .284 /Winchester Model 88- lever action since I bought it new when I was 18 yrs old. Used for elk, deer, coyote etc. Its been an awesome gun. I reload my own ammo for it and have lots of new brass. Generally I use 140 grain bullet. Have used 165 but its really tight being able to...
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    WILDLIFE BOARD/10r???

    All the board did was make the 3 year suspension a real 3 year suspension in regards to being able to put in for the draws next January. It didn't change the fact that the guilty party could not obtain a license to hunt for a 3 year period. I've seen hunters "flock" shooting at a herd of cow elk...
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    BGF Getting $2 Million More?

    Why can't a law be written that would cover any transfer of federal land- SITLA,federal etc- to the state be protected from any sale, transfer, trade etc to any private entity- corp., company, etc. The land would be open for public use- including all traditional activities ( I suppose this would...
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    BGF Getting $2 Million More?

    I guess that you will have to convince the DWR that the money that the groups earn from the different tags (expo or conservation) does not yield important benefits for wildlife conservation. My question then is, has the money that is kept by the different groups to help fund their activities...
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    BGF Getting $2 Million More?

    Grizz-- I know very well the difference in Conservation tags and Expo tags-- just asking if all those tags should be just included in the LE tag allotments.
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    BGF Getting $2 Million More?

    Some questions for all of us-- What is the appropriate amount or percentage of money that should "hit " the ground ? Who is or what is the most efficient way to lobby against anti-hunting type groups ? What kind of model should we follow so that we can protect our hunting heritage and would be...
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    NEW WILDLIFE BOARD MEMBERS?

    Also, nominations for the WB do not have to be made by any organization-- it can be made by an individual themselves or by some one else. RAC member nominations require being nominated by an organization-- non-consumptive, agriculture, conservation orgs. etc. The RACs try to keep a balance...
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