schoolhousegrizz
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With the changes what will you be using?
With the changes what will you be using?
I heard the unanimous vote was for no scopes .....or was I told wrong?
Iron sights might be the order of the day for the front-stuffers.
Zeke
I heard the unanimous vote was for no scopes .....or was I told wrong?
Iron sights might be the order of the day for the front-stuffers.
Zeke
X2Williams peep sight
So true for me to1X In My Eyes Is Perty Much No Scopes Zeke!
They still should be for sale at a dime a dozen. Red dots are much better IMHO.Remember When 1X Scopes Were For Sell For A Dime A Dozen?
Williams peep sight
Maybe!
They still should be for sale at a dime a dozen. Red dots are much better IMHO.
Zeke
Ya, but we had a lot less kids(sometimes you think you've heard it all)You were told wrong. The motion that passed unanimously will allow 1x scopes and red dot scopes. Essentially taking the regulations back to pre-2016.
Remember back in 2015 when people still made clean, ethical kills with muzzleloaders before they were allowed to throw a 4x16 power scope on one?
The joke will be when we see no increase in tags. But for all those who think that is going to happen I wish you well.
No doubt they had to do something and now it is what it is. How long until the next grab?
Enjoy your ducks.Spring.
We keep kicking chit down the road apparently the deer committee has the secret sauce.
Enjoy your ducks.
Well you won’t hear me complaining. This needed to happen.The joke will be when we see no increase in tags. But for all those who think that is going to happen I wish you well.
No doubt they had to do something and now it is what it is. How long until the next grab?
Not a problem. I'll deal with it. I've never felt like I was being victimized by any weapon restriction.You'll survive. Open sights worked for a couple hundred years.
Not a problem. I'll deal with it. I've never felt like I was being victimized by any weapon restriction.
All I ask is you acknowledge the results in a few years.
What does success look like to you?
Hopefully soon!The joke will be when we see no increase in tags. But for all those who think that is going to happen I wish you well.
No doubt they had to do something and now it is what it is. How long until the next grab?
None of that will grow deer. We will lose young hunters, could cause wounding
Payback is a 2way street
Using open sights, you crazy!You were told wrong. The motion that passed unanimously will allow 1x scopes and red dot scopes. Essentially taking the regulations back to pre-2016.
Remember back in 2015 when people still made clean, ethical kills with muzzleloaders before they were allowed to throw a 4x16 power scope on one?
None of that will grow deer. We will lose young hunters, could cause wounding
Payback is a 2way street
Get a trijicon or aimpoint, they hold upBut My 600 Grain Bullet Has Destroyed Every Red Dot Scope I've Put On My Gun!
Young Hunters need a high-powered scope? Or they'll quit?None of that will grow deer. We will lose young hunters, could cause wounding
Payback is a 2way street
Definitely, your eye sees at like 1.25x so the red dot is a big upgrade over a 1x scope.They still should be for sale at a dime a dozen. Red dots are much better IMHO.
Zeke
Define "grow deer"A Question:
Does The New Rule On SmokePoles Grow Deer?
What results are you wanting or expecting or think will happen with this change? Are you thinking that the WB thinks this will help the deer herd or elk herd or antelope?Not a problem. I'll deal with it. I've never felt like I was being victimized by any weapon restriction.
All I ask is you acknowledge the results in a few years.
What does success look like to you?
I never heard that this was to grow more deer. Except from people that did not know what they were talking about. This is about tech and it needs to go further down the road with all weapons. We are too good with our weapons. The tech that has come in the last 10 years or 20 years blows my mind. And think about where it could go!Was I/We Not Told These Changes Are Not To Grow More Deer?
Not a problem. I'll deal with it. I've never felt like I was being victimized by any weapon restriction.
All I ask is you acknowledge the results in a few years.
What does success look like to you?
Yeah, but it’s not going to show any data on the scopes that are coming off. Knowing magnified scope’s coming off was a real possibility 3 years ago they should have started mandatory harvest surveys then. Major failure in my opinoon.It’s going to be real interesting to see true data on this mandatory harvest survey though.
If that's the reason everybody wants scopes and other technology banned so we'll have more big bucks.. Here's a hint..quit killing yearlings and two year olds.. I guarantee ya that will put a bunch of big bucks on the landscape and we wouldn't have to go through all this other nonsense...For the Love of All that is holy, we all know these changes will not grow the deer herd. However, people are not complaining that they're not seeing deer they're complaining they're not seeing any mature bucks. Yes I know growing the herd will also grow mature bucks but at these changes are supposed to offer more opportunity while having more mature bucks on the landscape. For crying out loud I don't see hunters saying I'm pissed because I didn't see a doe with fawns today.
I too I'm all about doing whatever we can to grow the deer herd.
You’re right it’s not going to. It’s never been about the Data for me anyways.Yeah, but it’s not going to show any data on the scopes that are coming off. Knowing magnified scope’s coming off was a real possibility 3 years ago they should have started mandatory harvest surveys then. Major failure in my opinoon.
Get a smaller dot 1-3MOA. I used an Eotech the last few years of the 1x restricted years.If I remember right my 20-year-old Red Dot would cover the whole deer at 200 yards
What data? They’ve never kept real data.You’re right it’s not going to. It’s never been about the Data for me anyways.
I only said what I said, because Data supposedly doesn’t back up removing scopes.
This absolutely has nothing to do with growing a herd this has everything to do with keeping muzzleloaders in check.
I understand that. I just think it would have been useful and easy information to gather on a controversial subject.You’re right it’s not going to. It’s never been about the Data for me anyways.
I only said what I said, because Data supposedly doesn’t back up removing scopes.
This absolutely has nothing to do with growing a herd this has everything to do with keeping muzzleloaders in check.
What data? They’ve never kept real data.
Absolutely I totally agree. It would’ve been nice.I understand that. I just think it would have been useful and easy information to gather on a controversial subject.
I like it!2X POWER MAX ON SCOPES!
NO TURRETS ON THE 2 X SCOPES!
NO ELECTRONICS BUILT IN TO SCOPES!
ABSOLUTELY NO RANGEFINDERS!
NO RANGEFINDING BUILT IN TO SCOPES OR BINO'S!
LET'S GO MONOCULARS ONLY, NO BINO'S!
ABSOLUTELY NO MUZZLE BREAKS/SUPPRESSORS!
AND OF COURSE NO CANS!
ABSOLUTELY NO HIGH TECH CUSTOM TRIGGERS!
NO CUSTOM JEWELED ACTIONS!
NO CUSTOM PUSS PADS/CUSTOM BUTT PADS!
STRAIGHT WALLED CARTRIDGES ONLY!
ALL THEM ELECTRONIC GADGETS THAT COINCIDE WITH YOUR CURRENT RIFLE WILL BE OUT-LAWED,YOU WON"T HAVE GUN ENOUGH TO EVEN NEED IT!
REMEMBER:
It Wasn't Me That Stirred This Shhitt Up On The SmokePoles!
And Sometimes PAYBACK Can Be A REAL BITTCH!
Right I 100% percent agree with you.What data? They’ve never kept real data.
Except most, including yourself don’t consider the DWR’s current program “real data”.Absolutely I totally agree. It would’ve been nice.
But I feel like we would be able to have an idea and compare the DWR‘s current program with the new mandatory harvest program.
You’re absolutely correct. The only real data they have is LE data and Antlerless data.Except most, including yourself don’t consider the DWR’s current program “real data”.
What does the success look like?
Well, if we’re going off the data. I would say it would only be 2.5% drop in harvest.
It’s going to be real interesting to see true data on this mandatory harvest survey though.
1 thing of 50.
Now there is only 49. I better never hear bessy say "50 more things" again!
All the complaining that you do. I think you could have saved 4 western states by now on deer.It'll Never Be 100% True!
Be A Bunch Of Them Lieing About Harvests In Hopes Of Getting More Tags Issued,Right Hossy?
No Hossy!
I'm Not Calling You A Liar!
I'm SPEWING The Truth!
But It Should Be Way More Accurate Than Anything We've Had Forever!
How Long Did This Little Step Take?
All the complaining that you do. I think you could have saved 4 western states by now on deer.
You could have planted a lot of habitat and built a lot of highway fences.
That would take you from 49 problems down to just 2.
Hahaha I know. Just messing with you elk.I've Planted!
Never Got In On Any Highway Fencing But We Damn Sure Need Some Around Here!
Will 49+ Be OK?
It'll Never Be 100% True!
Be A Bunch Of Them Lieing About Harvests In Hopes Of Getting More Tags Issued,Right Hossy?
No Hossy!
I'm Not Calling You A Liar!
I'm SPEWING The Truth!
But It Should Be Way More Accurate Than Anything We've Had Forever!
How Long Did This Little Step Take?
Get one of those recoil proof air rifle scopesBut My 600 Grain Bullet Has Destroyed Every Red Dot Scope I've Put On My Gun!
Okay elkassassin let’s do a count.
#1 bait
#2 trail cameras
#3 muzzleloader scopes
#4 160,000 tags where cut
Looks like to me your good .you need a bigger list.
Stop shooting 600 grain slugsBut My 600 Grain Bullet Has Destroyed Every Red Dot Scope I've Put On My Gun!
Stop shooting 600 grain slugs
As I was scrolling down I saw that, my first thought was founder was out of town if he's letting these adds in again
It definitely helping with the noise but the recoil is still the sameAs I was scrolling down I saw that, my first thought was founder was out of town if he's letting these adds in again
It definitely helping with the noise but the recoil is still the same
Elk my wife picked it out should be here by Saturday, just in time for the weekend
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