AZ 12A WEST

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I drew the first season OCT 28-NOV6 Has anybody ever hunted this unit? Are there any areas to pack in away from roads and crowds? I plan on devoting 2 weeks for this hunt.Just hoping to get some insight by those that have been there and done that. This will be my first hunt on the Kaibab. I am in the military and with military pay a guided hunt is out of the question. Thanks for any advice. Huntinnut
 
Huntinnut,

I haven't hunted the first season in 12A west, however I've hunted 12A Archery in late September and was with a buddy last year for the 12A West late hunt, based on my experience up there, and the data that I've researched (I have provided below) I wouldn't ?bother with pinion/juniper habitat types unless it has snowed. Remember this deer herd is extremely migratory and will remain at higher elevations until significant snowfall pushes them off. As the fall progresses the deer become more and more secretive. Being in position at first shooting light can be critical as the big boys are often bedded down for the day within minutes of the sun breaking the horizon. Waterhole hunting becomes less productive as frost begins to supply the need for water. By this time of year the deer are visiting water in the dark. Hunt the travel corridors up or down from water and you will improve your odds. Bachelor herds are typically broken up by this hunt and bucks can be relatively evenly distributed throughout the plateau. Concentrate on areas that are more inaccessible. These early hunts can be difficult because the deer are typically located in areas of formidable cover and are not easily located or glassed. Come prepared for all types of weather. Conditions can vary from 80 degrees to below freezing, from sunny to snow, and from pleasant to down right ugly. The prepared hunter is often the successful hunter"

If you happen to get a good snowfall, I would focus in the Gooseneck area and or the Sowawats (you will see a high concentration of hunters, however there have been some decent deer taken in the past few years)

Also, be prepared for anything as the weather can change in an instant.

I hope this information can be useful. If you want, you can email me as well. (GOOD LUCK)

Month Ave. Temp Ave. Rainfall Ave. Snowfall

September Max 74?/Min 42? 1.27" 0.0"
October Max 55?/Min 32? 1.14" 4.0
 
I sent you a personal message. I've hunted 12aw many times since 1971, I'm happy to share what I've learned with you. There's no place like the North Kaibab -- Good luck and stay in touch.
 
I've seen a few people on here talking about 12aw. Does anyone have any insight on 12ae? I drew this tag and am wondering how it compares to 12aw.
 
I have hunted both. Last year I hunted west late hunt. three years ago I hunted east late hunt. East is totally different than the west. .......and your tactics will differ depending on if you drew early or late hunt. your question is real vague so be a bit more specific. Thanks, Allen Taylor......
 
I drew the 12A East tag for the early season. I'm interested in what caliber of animals are in the area and what I should start with as a reasonable goal. Is a guide recommended? Any other insight as to what I can expect is appreciated.
 
The west side and east side are completely different. The early hunts are completely different than the late hunts. The weather will play a huge role in how/where you hunt. The east side is real tough on the early hunt if there has not been any weather to push the animals down. As for caliber of animals, this unit is one of the best in the nation regarding genetics and monster deer. Last season the Kaibab kicked out some great deer. On the early hunts I would definitely use a guide. Call a few guides and check their references and what they have killed the last few years up there. This time of year, every AZ guy who didnt draw a tag turns into "Outfitter" so beware. One top notch outfitter is Duwane Adams 520-385-4995 www.arizonabiggamehunting.com take a look at the recent pictures and decide for yourself...... Thanks, Allen Taylor......
 
Great "INFO" here about the East Side,its a JUNGLE on top,with few Roads,but plenty of Canyons to walk into.Prey for Snow,so Deer will move to Winter Range,down by Buf Ranch.The majority of 12 A-E needs a Good Lightning Strike,or a large box of road flares ---
 
It would be great if we could get a bunch of volunteers and chain some of the east side. Brush needs to be cleared and cut down. Arizona Deer Association is working with the forest service and AZGFD right now on herd quality etc. so hopefully we can get everyone to agree on cleaning/clearing up some of the east side habitat......... Thanks, Allen Taylor......
 
Anyone,
I was also drawn for this hunt. I have never hunted the rifle hunt. I usually hunt the archery hunt but the family wanted to try this. Anyways, I am not asking for hunting spots. I just wanted bounce some ideas around based on knowledge of the an area I've hunted for many years during the archery hunt, what to expect with the other hunters, weather, and hunting methods. I assume it is not more of a problem with other hunters as it is during the archery season.

Thanks

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Eddie
 

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