Feild judging velvet bucks

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Due to my work shedule I've never had the opportunity to hunt mule deer this early in the season. How much 'mass' does the velvet add to the deer, ie how thick is the velvet on the antlers. I know the spread or height wont change that much, but since there is a fair amount of work to get where I'm going I don't want to take a deer that has lots of ground shrinkage when the velvet comes off.

Any tips/comments?




If we're not supposed to eat deer, why are they made of meat?
 
The more massive the rack, the less, percentagewise, loss when stripping velvet. However, the more massive the rack, the greater, in total number of points, loss when stripping velvet.

Figuring a book buck will have 40" of mass (rule of thumb, not an absolute), means an average mass measurement of 5" on a typical 4-point. I've killed 2 velvet bucks, the velvet was no more than 1/8" thick - probably less. So, with a 5" average circumpherence, if antlers are perfect circles, beam diameter is 1.59" (C = 2*pi*r, D= 2r). With a 1/8" layer added, increases the circumpherence to 5 7/8". In this case, 1/8" velvet adds 7/8" to a perfectly circular 5" bony antler circumpherence, or a total of 7" mass with 8 perfectly circular, 5" average, mass measurements. In this case, the mythical, perfectly symmetrical, perfectly circular-beamed 4-point buck will need to net 197" in velvet to net 190" stripped.

Of course, in real life, there is no such deer. The more flattened the antler, the less impact of the velvet addition (the circle is the most extreme difference). It will also depend on whether velvet is dry or green, and likely there is individual variation too. Still, I doubt you'll ever lose more than 10" when stripping velvet from a typical 4-point, and likely quite a bit less. However, keep in mind, this is comparing velvet compressed by a tape, to stripping that velvet. The fuzzier his velvet (again, dryness or lack thereof, individual variation), the more "ground shrink" there will be, between what you THOUGHT his mass was, and what it actually is with the velvet stripped off.

My first velvet buck was a small buck killed on an archery hunt, no surprises. The second, seen skylined at a distance, then killed spooking after a long, out of sight stalk, had a lot of shrink - never judge a skylined, velvet buck!
 
Bowhunting in Arizona, a local book of records states on page 20 in the 2000 edition: The final score for a deer or elk in velvet will be determined by deducting a two and one half percent penality from the total score. Such trophies will be measured as if they were not in velvet with all measurements added and subtracted as usual. So basically, score up a buck as usual in the field and mentally subtract two and a half percent. That should get you in the ballpark.
 
Here's some actual numbers for you to think about.
We have guided hunters on the early rifle hunts in Utah for several years, and they will strip most of the bucks they kill, so we have taken measurements before and after stripping the velvet. We deal with 180 to 200 inch type bucks, and the most common difference is 5-6 inches lost after the velvet is stripped.
Bucks with lots of points will lose more inches because each tip of an antler will lose about an eighth of an inch. Each mass measurement will also lose an eighth as well. The inside spread will gain 2 eighths.
Count up the points, and add the 8 mass measurements and call them an eighth each, and you can just about tell how much you will lose.
 

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