To much Private Land?

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rumple

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I am curious to see what all of you think about all of the private land. Do you guys think that there is too much land being bought up by the private individual? Where do you draw the line? Do private land owners take care of the land better and have bigger bucks and bulls? Why?
What do you guys think?

rump
 
If you look at how much responsibility a landowner has when compared to the average weekender on forest service. The landowner take better care of the land plain and simple.
I know there are good an bad apples on either side of the fence but with my experience thats how I see it.
 
Not sure what you mean. Almost all the land being bought is already private....the gov't owned land isn't for sale except in rare instances and then is usually exchanged rather than sold.
 
whether we like it or not, this is the great USA and we have freedom/privledge's that allow land ownership. If someone wants to and has the right amount of money, then go buy the land from the landowner who may or may not allow access. This question is somewhat strange in that I can pretty much do whatever I want with my house/land and wouldnt want someone dictating how I decorate it or whatever as long as I dont break the law, so it is a mute issue if I agree with the guy in Florida, Nebraska, Utah, Arizona or Colorado whether he should farm or raise cattle unless it infringes upon my rights..... Thanks, Allen Taylor......
 
What you realy should be worried about is when all the big ranches in the west sell out and get sub-divided into 35 acre ranchettes. Those large private ranches are doing more to support wildlife than you can imagine and the animals come and go on to the public lands as they please.
Just my two cents.

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>What you realy should be worried
>about is when all the
>big ranches in the west
>sell out and get sub-divided
>into 35 acre ranchettes. Those
>large private ranches are doing
>more to support wildlife than
>you can imagine and the
>animals come and go on
>to the public lands as
>they please.
>Just my two cents.

Agreed. This is also why I am against the "death tax", a family works a ranch for their lives but when the grandpa or whoever's name is on the title dies, the family who was barely scraping by before is now hit with hundreds of thousands of dollars of tax... they cant afford it and have to sell off portions to survive. Large ranches are a dying thing and its sad as alot of them truely do benefit the wildlife.


-DallanC
 
Thats what life insurance is for, to protect that land that the grandpa wprked so hard for. If he has enough life insurance to cover the death tax, then they wont lose the ranch.
 
It isn't that simple. There are things that can be done to reduce estate taxes by lowering property value (i.e. conservation easements), but you can't begin to get completely eliminate them. Your average, fairly substantial rancher, can't begin to afford enough life insurance to cover property values. Life insurance is cheap when you buy it young, but by the time you die your land has inflated in value much more than you would have ever thought about at a time when you could afford it.

I really don't understand your question either. Very little land transfers from public to private now. Has someone refused you permission to go hunting somewhere? The alternative to our system is called the feudal system or more recently, the communist system. Hunting opportunities were really great in those areas then.

In general, I think most states' systems work pretty well. I live in Texas where all of our hunting occurs on private land. Leases are pretty expensive down here. Few people hunt for less than $500 to $1500 per person. Trespass fees I've paid in western states have generally been lower than that, I although I know some places are much higher.

I suspect that most of the resentment toward landowners is a result of people being much more interested in the trophy than the hunt. I love to hunt big animals also, but if it was easy that would take the fun out. No point in being jealous of landowners just because I can't hunt their land.

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