A little advice is needed

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-24-05 AT 11:20AM (MST)[p]Listen up Utards (sorry, I couldn't resist, don't beat me up too bad I'm one too), after doing the DH thing on a check point yesterday with the wardens I've finally stopped laughing long enough to pass on a bit of advice, and I'm sure it applies to un-Utards as well.

1-Unloading your rifle as you try desperately to not look as if you are unloading your rifle and slowing/stopping before you reach the checkpoint is about as obvious to all watching as the pee stance is in the middle of a forest. HERE'S YOUR TICKET.

2-Transporting three deer by yourself and telling the warden that the other two guys are still in camp when the tags are clearly in women's names doesn't work real well. HERE'S YOUR TICKET, SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR DEER.

3-Wrapping the entire license around the horns without detaching the tag or notching the tag is about as obvious as you can get. HERE'S YOUR TICKET, SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR DEER.

4-Stopping at the top of a hill before the checkpoint where you are skylined as you throw your beer out the window is entirely waaaaaaay to eye-catching. HERE'S YOUR HANDCUFFS, SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR TRUCK.

5-If you are from a state without elk, make sure you understand what they look like before you shoot one on a deer hunt and then proudly drive it through the checkpoint proclaiming 'isn't that the biggest deer you've ever seen???' He did get points for properly notching and attaching his tag, driving without a loaded rifle in the cab and not drinking while driving. HOPE YOU ARRANGED FOR BAIL.

6-Don't put the dope in the Altoids can, everyone does that, it's the first place they look. Don't further aggravate things by telling the cops that you 'wouldn't do that because you are *trying* to get clean after 30 years of smoking that stuff'. ENJOY YOUR RIDE, WE'LL MAKE SURE THE TOW TRUCK DOESN'T DAMAGE YOUR VEHICLE.

7- If you are a known poacher/known convicted felon, don't even bother to be surprised when you attract more attention that you can handle and go to jail. You can't possess a firearm, moron, why the victim act? ENJOY YOUR STAY, SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR TRUCK.

8-If you tell the guy you killed a deer yesterday, but haven't retrieved it yet, haven't gutted it yet, and hand him the entire license with tag still attached, you can expect an extended conversation. ENJOY YOUR HIKE, HERE'S YOUR TICKET.

9-If you get scared about the loaded rifle/untagged deer/drunk driving, the last thing you should do is turn around and go the other way. You will be chased down. Please stop and take your ticket like a man. If you continue, the end result is definitely jail and losing your truck. Oh, and it's a felony ( see #7).

10- Last but not least, when the warden asks you to show him the breech is empty, don't point the rifle at him. They stopped looking down the barrel years ago, and it really makes them think yer gonna shoot 'em. SORRY ABOUT THE CHOKE MARK ON YOUR THROAT, SIR.


Seriously, I had a good time. Most of the hunters I saw were families out together enjoying a beautiful fall. There were a whole bunch of guys with their gals, dads with their kids, and several generations together. It's good to see that our hunting pastime is still being shared and passed on. Let's keep it that way by not looking like idiots.

Haven't had that much fun since the possessed Exoricist deer decoy operation.....but that's another story.

Pred
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-24-05 AT 11:42AM (MST)[p]Bob, it did. I should have titled it "A Day at a Checkpoint". And I had a hard time not drawing down on the guy in #10. Luckily for him, I could see his right hand was not near the trigger. He just had a brain lapse, but boy oh boy did that 7MM hole in the barrell look mighty big pointed at my forehead, and I was behind the warden!
 
The guy that checked me was REAL friendly, I was expecting worse after reading the "Is the DWR this bad" post...LOL. But then again, I did have my tag filled out, my gun in the trailer, and my license stub handy.......
 
They are as friendly as you choose to be, Tony. I was shocked at how rude some folks were-there was absolutely no cause for it. We all have our bad days, I suppose, wardens included!
 
Well, that's pretty sad. I guess the only good thing that may come out of it is the state is bringing in quite a bit of money, which hopefully can/will be used for more enforcement in the future.
 
Yelum, a couple nice ones. A TON of 2-points, and are they FAT!! It's good to see the bucks are going into winter with good reserves. Folks are complaining about the deer being scattered, but I just think they've forgotten that it used to be like that, and that it's more normal this year than in years past as far as deer patterns.

Man, there was one 2=point that had a positively huge body. He looked more like a 4-5 year old, but still had milk teeth!
 
Bul, I'm a LEO. I think that's the only way you can do a check point. I'm fairly certain a check station is different, I think DH'ers can do that. Let me check on it for you, I'll get back to you.
 
The only thing that would make it funnier is if they really did loose their trucks and weapons, instead of just getting a slap on the hand.
 
All of this time I thought my well-thought out excuses were original. I cannot believe these people stole my guaranteed winners.;-)

Back to the drawing board.....
 
Pred
What the heck has LEO got to do with it?? And just what kind of stars do ya get for being a Leo. Do I get any for being Sagitarias. KTC here is one they haven't figured yet. If ya kill a couple geese illigaly! Just stuff em in the carcus of the deer with tag on it. Then when the Fish Cops find it. Just reply why that goose eating sons a bit%^. Tell em LEO said it was ok!! Ok i am sorry for making fun of LAW OFFICERS but i really had to stump my brain to figure out what LEO was.
Great post pred keep up the good work.
Rut
 
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Preds 10 COMMANDMENTS OR SHOULD I SAY 10 STUPID STUNTS TRIED BY FELLOW UTARDS???

I'D HATE TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE JOKERS!!!

THE DWR NEEDS TO START SLAPPING SOME A$$!!!

IF I USE MY DEER TAG ON A MUZZLE LOADER BULL CAN I CALL HIM A BIG DEER???

WELL Pred,TRY NOT TO SHOOT ALL STUPID UTARDS,THAT WOULD TAKE ALOT OF BULLETS!!!

THE ONLY bobcat WONDERING HOW MUCH PATIENCE IT WOULD TAKE TO BE A LEO,WAY MORE THAN I HAVE I'M SURE!!!
 
Great post. humorous, but things like that realy do happen. I have worked check stations in the past and 90% of those that stop are realy great folks.

from the "Heatland of Wyoming"
 
Not a check station, a check point. Little different. Stations have biologists, points have law enforcement. This one was east of Heber.

The elk tip was from a station near Wanship, a few years ago, but true nonetheless (unfortunately).
 
Predator,

Here is one you missed that maybe you should keep an eye out for. I heard this one years and years ago. This guy was traveling out of Thistle about to enter highway 6. He entered a check point and stopped to get his deer looked at. He had shot 2 deer and was wondering where to hide the second one. He quartered and boned out the second deer, stuffed it in the first deer, wrapped it with a rope to keep second deer in first deer, and put a thick cotton game bag on the first deer. The DWR guy pulled the deer towards him to look and told him to have a nice day. I guess he could not tell the deer weighed 250 pounds or whatever it was.

Utards were taught some wonderful lessons in the old days and the excuses you heard were legitimate 20 years ago. I hope the crackdown continues so the DWR has a chance in hell to rebound the deer herd. Utards gripe about the deer herd and this crap continues.It is a god given right to hunt deer in Utah seems to be the attitude and if you eat them you are entitled to as many as you use.
 
Dang that was good. I've never seen more people crack open a beer and then drive off from camp then this year. Then they get down off the mountain...stop and dump the beer cans in the sage as they hit pavement.
 
That was one of the funniest posts I've read since the one on turtle hunting . . . and also, unfortunately, one of the saddest. I'd like to think that it's not like that up here in Canada, but I know better.

Tip #11 (courtesy of a canuck): if you're going to hide your untagged spike buck inside the truck door on the driver's side, make sure that the door is watertight, so that blood doesn't drip out onto the game warden's feet. Here's your ticket, say goodbye to your deer.
 
KTC,
Don't bunch all of us Utards together, we aren't all idiots. It seems that some areas have more than there fair share though.
 
THATS RIGHT ktc!!!

DON'T PUT ALL OF US IN THE SAME BOAT!!!

THE ONLY bobcat LMFAO!!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-26-05 AT 09:34PM (MST)[p]Ahhhh RJ, thank you for asking....this one is just downright darn funny!

Once upon a time, wildlife had decoys. Most did not move. Then one day we got some that moved a bit, so we could flick the tail and turn the head. Well, I was invited upon a midnight foray in the desert with a deer decoy in hand. We got set up beside a dirt road in the middle of nowhere. I was assigned to put the decoy together, and I did, but wrongly.

We sat apart a bit, me with one warden, and another warden across the way. About 30 minutes into the operation, a truck came by and stopped. We heard the guy crank a round into the chamber-then nothing. The warden told me to move the head. Now the head is SUPPOSED to turn slightly and stop, as if the deer was alert and looking at you. Not this deer, noooooooooo. I hit the button and the head started to turn- then went completely around in a circle as if possessed, returning to the same spot.

We were horrified. The guy unloaded his rifle, turned off the spotlight and yelled out the window, "M-fing game wardens". To which the warden I was with responded' M-fing poacher!". Needless to say, we had to move. I was laughing so hard I nearly died right there; the other warden choked on his cigar.

That was nearly as funny as the pheasant decoy that ran right off the rail and off across the field.....we called it the rocket bird. OR the archer that shot the decoy five times and never did figure it out....or the one that ran away on Camp Williams only to run face to face with a low hovering Apache helicopter.

Ahhhhh.....the good ole' days.
 
RE: Classic, Just Classic

Those are some great stories.. Thats why I want to get into law enforcement so bad.. Keep em coming Pred. Thanks.
 
RE: Classic, Just Classic

BUL_KRZY and Predator, just thought I would let you know that you can work a check station and get credit for DH hours. I have worked the Santaquin check station the past 3 season, and have received credit for my DH hours. Have seen some nice bucks come through also. We check the deer for age clasification (including points on each side, and measure their fat at the brisket), where they were harvested and for CWD (if taken in a test unit). I have taken pictures of the nice bucks that come through. I keep a copy and give a copy to the DWR in Springville. The biggest buck we check this year was 30.5 inches 4X4 taken down by Fish Lake. The harvest was not as good as last year, but still very respectable. I guess the only drawback about working three days at a check station is that I usually don't spend much time in the field after that. It is worth doing the check station.

Mark
 
RE: Classic, Just Classic

Mark, thanks, I clarified the difference to Bul about check stations and check points. DWR SL says only DH's that are LEO's can work administrative check points because of the whole search/seizure issue. But check stations are just as much fun, are they not?

Just to clarify for those who I've now confused. Check stations are primarily for biologists to conduct field surveys, CWD surveys, age classifications, etc. Check points are to verify license, tagging, etc and are primarily administrative in nature.

Both are darn funny/horrifying to work, depending on your point of view. :)
 
RE: Classic, Just Classic

omg thats SAD but VERY FUNNY ,,, peeps can sure be a lil uh DUMB lol , i had a calif tag validated this year by a warden , was a pretty cool guy , never have had ANY probs with them anywhere , but oh wait i UNLOAD my gun :) drink at home :) ect ect ,,, btw there is usually a check point/ station ? at the start of north skyline , not this year was wondering why ,,, as what i see there i bet would qualify for your post ,,, skyline drive south from fairview road was FILTHY trash all over the place ,,, amazes me that people litter so much , zip locks , gatorade , beer cans , you get the picture ,,,
 
RE: Classic, Just Classic

Tyler, it probably wasn't there because that's where folks expect it be....I'm sure they moved it to catch those thinking they are avoiding where it regularly is.....

I hate trashies. I swear I have to carry a second backpack just for the trash I pick up. Nothing annoys me more than hiking my ass off and finding someone's Snickers wrapper!
 

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