Another Utah Deer managment question

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Look at me . I don't post for ever, and now I can't shut up. Was kicking this subject around with my brother in law. Telling him your ideas , etc. he wanted me to post this idea:

Are the people over the managment at the DWR public servants or not? If they are, then who truely employs them? WE the public. Can't WE then threaten their employment if they do not produce ? I'm serious -you smart guys out there-help me out. It seems pretty obvious that as a majority we'd all like to see better deer herd no's. Yet, it is also apparent that it is the money that is going to talk. Here we sit forking over our license fees to a gov. agency that it seems is pretty smug and must feel pretty safe. Don't want to budge. How do we effect "change!?" Could be that, similar to an election, WE demand that whoever is over these people "THROW THE BUMS OUT?" I would love to see these Officials have to produce or hit the road. I KNOW there are Game managers out there that would vie for the paycheck AND the opportunity to put their ideas to work. I'd like to see them have to produce or get out and let some one else try! If the only way to get them off the dime is MONEY. This might be THE best idea yet?? What do you guys think, How could it be made to work? CAN it be made to work. --Yeah, yeah, get into all the details later. Yeah, yeah, we will have to cut some slack for bad winters. etc. Don't want to fall in a three year cycle of new DWR directors, either, but a certain alotted time to see an improvement, or a report card graded by the hunters - as long as they are improving they stay - If they plataeu, but it's good they stay. maybe this is a tactic to employ only on an as needed basis-like now-BUT if in the back of their minds they are going to be called to account it has got to make things better! Right now it seems they are simply depending on retirement, and consistent license fees. Sounds like consistent license fees won't change, but if they aren't quite so secure in the job, looking over their shoulders a little maybe they will then bite the bullet and do the hard things to make this better. Why can't the DWR instigate predator control, if that needs be? Let's empty some offices and get some poaching patrols out there. Didn't these guys get into this line of work to manage game? never seen a live critter inthe DWR head office (or any other office for that matter). Wouldn't it be great if the DWR asked US to lobby judges so that poachers actually got prosecuted and PUNISHED! Okay - got to go or get fired!
 
I can see where you are coming from, but I have a different way of looking at it. In general, people respond better to incentives than they do to punishments. Instead of just a threat to loose their job, what if wildlife managers could get a bonus if the deer population or buck to doe ratio increased? State wildlife managers already get paid 25% less than managers in comparable federal positions in Utah, do we really need another threat to discourage people from taking the jobs? The DWR is having some difficulty finding qualified applicants to take biologist positions and keeping them after they do take the positions. Biologists with a masters degree that takes 2-3 years on top of a bachelors degree start out making about the same amount as a school teacher, but biologists don't get 3 months off in the summer. I understand where you are coming from, but think it should be a two edged sword. If you don't perform your gone, but if you do perform you are compensated. That would provide a carrot and a stick and would probably lead to some new innovative ideas that might really lead to some changes.

Dax
 
Dax, you may be on a good track, but please don't suggest that the buck:doe ratio be used as bonus pay. They already embelish the numbers.
 

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