Need some help with some sonic dome elk calls

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MsDestiny

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I blew some of my B-day money on a set of 3 mini sonic dome elk calls... and about the only sound I can get is something that resembles the crying screams of someone stomping on a cats tail... so I figure I'm doing it wrong.

I've read the instructions and I still have many questions...

Does the curvy dome touch the roof of the mouth or does it touch your tounge ?

Does the straight edge sit inside your teeth or do you kinda hold your teeth..

Where does your tounge go ???? I can make the dead cat sounds if I touch my tounge to the reed itself....

any online instruction videos ?

Thanks

Destiny
 
Oh come on... I know its funny but if you end up missing a cat... drive to Layton. I've got five weeks to figure these evil things out..

Destiny
 
ok sorry im sure your going to get a lot more posts! but the round part does go towards the roof, and the straight part goes inside your teeth. you do apply pressure with your tongue. and then just practice, eventually you'll get it. good luck destiny lmao
 
Okay... switched from the white call... lets say the dead cat turned into a Peacock sound... went to the red one... okay theres this orange dome... does that sit on the roof of your mouth right next to your teeth or back a little... my luck I will stumble in the woods and swallow the damn thing.

The red one sounds more like a little bull that swallowed a thistle... argh.

Destiny
 
ok you should have been practicing for awhile but its ok, just try not to get shot in the head out there blowing on the dang thing! lol ok but seriously you can usually shape it to fit the roof of your mouth a little bit. at least your getting different noises out of them. practice blowing with different amounts of pressure and try different pressures with your tounge. its going to take awhile!
 
sounds like you have the Primos calls. They do have a video that you can or could buy. I have it I have not watched it yet but need to before I head out, but lucky for me I have a two months. I will try to watch the vid in the morning after work.
 
Personally I dont like the sonic dome calls, they just dont work as good and the ones with the metal tabs, I would go back to the store and buy a Primos "Top Pin" call, it is yellow and I have found it to be the easyest call to use. My buddy puts those sonic dome calls on the dash of his truck with the latex faceing up for a day in the hot sun, says it makes them work better, but I have not tried this.

Now to awnser your Questions the dome rests on the roof of your mouth with the latex side down agenst your tounge, lift your tounge to the roof of your mouth and blow, with different amounts of pressure you should make different sounds with the call.

I hope this helps but I'm a bit skeptical...:)



Jake H. MM Member since 1999.
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The plastic or metal dome/shed type roof is a palate plate call, the dome always faces the roof of your mouth this exposes the latex to your tongue this way. Here's some instruction on mouth reed use I've shared in the past!--------



Learning to use a mouth reed takes persistent practice, do not give up too easily, even if it seems a bit difficult at first! Make sure you're using the right tool for the job here. You want to start with a light tensioned single reed latex mouth reed as a beginner, no double reeds here or very tight latexed reeds, they're not user friendly. You want to start with cow sounds first, soft ones at that, then you will graduate to louder & longer tones as you master the small ones. Bugles will come or stem from your cow sounds. A bugle is no more than a lengthened out cow mew where you would add more air & a bit more tension on the reed itself with your tongue. These bugles are reserved for AFTER you master cow sounds. You want to achieve one goal before you move on to the next one!

Do Not Over Blow! This is very common for new ones to do so, do your best to control your air out put as if you were just breathing the air out past the diaphragm. Make sure you have a 100% seal where the tag of the call is up against the roof of your mouth, you must dam the air up. If tag is stiff, then chew on the tag & saliva it up a bit, to soften it with your front teeth, as you hold the main frame in your right hand. This will make the tag pliable & will now mold easily to your palate. The front of the call itself should be near the back of your front teeth or gums, you do no want it too far back. Adjust front or back from there for best position per individual, make sure you have it sealed or you'll get a hissing sound, that shows air is getting over the top of mouth reed & escaping just under your pallet! Tip of tongue is reference to front of tongue portion, I like the little flat spot on the end of tongue for use, I make a small curl out of it. Some find that using the front portion back of tongue & shaping it like a bicep then using that small part of the arch in contact with the latex works best for them. To start getting a sound out of your call, say shhhh as you apply light pressure on latex with flat part of tip of tongue. For more elk like sounds, now put a bit more tension on the latex & slowly increase airflow in a controlled manner. For cow sounds work the very end of latex near your mouth opening, only light tongue pressure is needed with controlled air flow such as breathing type air. Don't push the air or force it out, avoid quick bursts of air! Play with tongue tension for best sound quality, & make sure your tongue is salivated for slickness & you'll notice less tickling! Do your best to keep solid contact with tongue on reed when making sounds, this can change a bit for more nasally cow sounds, then you would slide tongue just off latex & create the needed vibration of latex to get the nasal effect that a cow will use at times! For all bugles & screams you do not want your tongue slipping off reed, you will lose major volume there if you do! See how this info works for you! But, perfect your cow sounds first before moving on, or being concerned with bugling!

If this info helps you out to get reasonable sounds after a bit of practice & you'd like to further your progress & education, then you may like to consider a DVD we have out called "Mastering The Mouth Reed" It will go into step by step proper use of mouth reeds. In addition to this it will share with you how to make the many sounds that both cows & bulls make, & there's quite a few of them, including those difficult grunts & chuckles. If you'd like to see an example of these sounds that you can learn, please feel free to check them out on a 10 minute video clip we have out demonstrating the many sounds. Go to www.elknut.com & click on the leaf/link "Video Clips" it will take you there! I truly hope this helps you out!


ElkNut1
 
i think the sonic -dome is the easiest to use!its all i use anymore if you need you can gently slighty bend the frame to fit the roof of your mouth better. til its comfy the latex should be facing out and the plastic dome onthe roof of your mouth while applying pressure with your tongue against the roof of your mouth(call in between obviously) push air between your tongue and roof it should make a noise various pressures will produce diff pitches. the more pressure higher pitch less pressure lower pitch so while blowing go from more pressure to less and just practice, it becoems second nature once you get used to it. they are the only call i use from bugling to cow calling. when trying to bugle add a growl in while your bugling it gives it the throaty big bull sound
 

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