Porcupine Ridge Outfitters?

[YoungCountry]

I've heard both good & some not so good about PRO?
Heard they had some good hands on the Dutton this year?
Wondering what your experiences are with them & if you have used them would you re-book again?


we are YoungCountry, we like all kinds
of music and people, 'cause we do draw some lines'
no our hair is not orange,we don't wear chains and spikes
but we know how to have fun come Saturday night

 

[ktc]

I dont think it ever got off the ground as I am told. slambo and utfireman did the only booked hunt and did it under a different outfitter name as licensed. The main guy as mentioned above was fired before the hunt started. Something to do with misappropriated funds, no funds, missing funds.

If you are serious, and not just fishing, GO ELSEWHERE and DO NOT USE PorcRidOut! It was a ugly mess for months. I am in shock in how it all went down and I was told the story by the horse's mouth. Lots of good people were affected by it all. It is a sad deal all the way around.

Someone else can fill in the details. Just dont use them!!!!!!!!!

 

[stinkystomper]

If you want to have a darn good chance at seeing 380 bulls on the Dutton there are two separate teams to look at in my opinion period!

Slamdunk will most likely be rejoining bucks and bulls as a guide this next year. If you can convince him and trevor to guide you I'm pretty darn sure you will be seeing, and possibly passing, some 380 bulls.

The other choice is one most don't like to admit. Book a hunt with Reed Dalton. He works for Mossback and I GUARANTEE you he can find you a freakin toad. I saw that guy at work off and on this year with lowcountryelk on the Dutton archery elk hunt and you wouldn't believe the absolute giants they were passing up. It blew my mind when I saw lowcountry's home video. Absolutely amazing. Too bad I never saw that bull during the rifle hunt eh steve'o'? I think in your heart you knew that straight big six was pushing 400 and in my heart I know he was pushing well on the 410 mark! 14 inch fronts???? yeah and those 18 inch g-5's were only 6 inches! ROFL! Reed hates to say any score with a "4" in it I think! I'm just glad Reed loves me so much. He really enjoyed my dirt grafiti didn't he? ROFL!

silly liberals, paychecks are for workers!

 

[AWHOLELOTTABULL]

Hey! I thought slammy was coming over to the dark side with me next year. WTH?

It's always an adventure!!!
www.awholelottabull.com

 

[utfireman]

LAST EDITED ON Sep-29-09 AT 10:57PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Sep-29-09 AT 10:50?PM (MST)

D and D Outfitter's is staying on that mtn. Which is who Tony's hunt ended up going through.

KTC is right, PRO never made it off the ground. I would look elsewhere.

 

[tracker12]

I did my ML Fishlake hunt with "Hightop Outfitters" and they where great to deal with. The hunt was fun and my guide made it a great experience. I know they hunt the Dutton and took a couple nice bulls off of it this year.

 

[hornkiller]

i would recomend trophyheadhunters.com great guy and you will kill a giant

 

[stinkystomper]

Not to burst anyones bubble but I wouldn't go with high top. If that muzz bull went 370 they posted then I passed over 30 370 bulls on my hunt and passed 3 before shooting my bull on the last day. D and D outfitters, if that who I went with stays on the mountain would be a good deal as well. All I know is that compared to what I heard from other hunters is that I saw and passed lots of bulls than just about every other outfitter on that mountain woulda given their eye theeth for. Just my two cents.

Now, lets begin the stinky bashin...... elk seasons over and the nice stinky must go back into hibernation... ROFL!

silly liberals, paychecks are for workers!

 

[utfireman]

stinky, you cant go and hide yet. we have to get you a colorado deer first! after that then you can go and hybernate.

 

[ktc]

stinky,

You gonna sue PorRidOut for taking 5 figures and doing virtually nothing? I sure hope so before the next guy gets screwed. Thank God D&D formed to help you out. I would hire slambo in a second. Sounds like Ray was good help also.

Come on stinky! No more Mr Nice Guy! You said it yourself, the hunts are over so you are officially a dinkus again!;-)

When to the swdstomper threads start?;-)

 

[tracker12]

Remember it's not always about the end number on the bull but the overall experience and effort the guide puts in. Hightop did it right for me and I stand by my recommedation.

 

[PleaseDear]

That is kinda sad to see that Pro didn't get going on his own with his guide gig.

It would have been great to see nothing but 380 bulls or better harvest by his hunters.

Life goes on, that is for sure.

I hope my Rocky Mountain Power bill does not go up to help compensate........?

Robb

 

[REDDOG]

did pro crawl in a hole? come on, we know your reading this.

 

[stinkystomper]

ktc..... u've asked me to back u up on ur previous post in an email and not allow u to hang out n dry. i gave u my word that if u ever need anything just ask n i will do it. so here goes. i never wanted to do this. yes i paid pro 15 grand to guide me. he was suppose to pay slamdunk, utfireman, a camp cook and hire one of mossbacks best spotters to spot for us. the mossback spotter refused to help and i was never informed of why this guy wasnt going to show. i merely assumed he would be there the whole time. next thing i know is that the other supposed guys who were supppose to be paid found out they werent getting paid. we then find out all the money is gone and only pros friend will be there helping. slamdunk and utfireman were allowed to come but they wouldnt b paid. i then find out all the scouting trips i had paid for wouldnt happen as well because all the money was gone. ive met pros family. his son and daughters are sweethearts. pro lost his job and was going through hard times and for that reason i couldnt bear to take any legal action against him. i knew he was in the process of searching for a job and had no money to make the hunt with so i emailed him n told him he was released from his obligations. i told everyone that and that i would do this hunt on my own. well pro showed up a week before the hunt n showed me a few canyons for 3 days and a couple of small bulls. he left wednesday before the hunt at which time i asked if he would please come back on saturday and help locate a bull we had been hearing but couldnt locate. he left that wednesday n never returned. im sure he was needed at hime for some reason. slammy and utfireman showed up a few days later. they provided campers tents etc all for free. i paid for the insurance and land use permit to make it legal just in case. as the hunt progressed more and more mm guys showed up out of the graciousness of their own heart to help in a bad situation and made this the hunt experience of a lifetime. there was a reason slamdunk and i were caught in tears several times after i got my bull.... it had to do with a brotherly relationship forming over the year as things unfolded with the bad business dealing and the culmination of the final ending. i will never go after pro. the only thing i would get from him might be jail time and no human deserves that simply because they went through extremely hard times. money isnt worth that to me. is what he did ethical? no. do i understand? yes. i wish u well pro and am glad things happened the way they did. the turn of events allowed me to make friends for a lifetime and that to me is priceless. good luck pro and i hope u get things turned around and make it.

ty... thanks for the help. u were the guide in the sky on this one. we hunted ur area ur way n it paid big time.

silly liberals, paychecks are for workers!

 

[stinkystomper]

in closing.... i would appreciate it if people would quit pm'ing me about this whole issue. i feel humiliated to have lost that much money n would like to forget about it. no ty u didnt force this. i gave u my word if u ask anything of me that i will do it and i have.

silly liberals, paychecks are for workers!

 

[ktc]

Tony,

You are a good man. I also get pm's and emails non-stop from guys wanting to know what happened. I dont want any more either.

Just be careful of who and when you hire a guide is my advice. There are some good ones out there. I also wish pro the best. I dont hate people, I try to like them all, and I am a forgiving person.

I was really pulling for this hunt to work out on several levels. I tried my damndest to help out even though I could not come down. I did make some very good friends over stinky's hunt.

Good luck next year stinky! Doug is a very good man and Ray too for getting it done. bobcat and Rob were selfless in helping. I wish pro luck also. Hope he gets back on his feet and gets his business going. I am sure he can guide and knows how to hunt. I know health matters are a very tough thing to handle. I still hope everything works out.

With that I am done with this subject. Please do not email me or pm me any more with questions. It is not my place. Hopefully everyone learned something. All involved are sportsmen so they are alright in my book. Good luck to EVERYONE moving forward!

 

[gator77]

Honestly, always kind of thought you were a putz Don't know you personally, but what you said there takes a good man to do.

That was a refreshing read, and know I appreciated it.

 

[BradN]

Best Post of the Year

Forget about any elk hunting posts. This is, hands down, the best post of the year. Forgiveness is by and large a forgotten virtue. Stinky, Slammy, Ray, et al. I applaud your goodness and humanity.

 

[LowCountryElk]

RE: Best Post of the Year

Glad that's done and over with. Kudos to the Good Stinky. Now.... "Elvis" has left the room ..... back to the way he really is. LOL!!!

 

[EROCK1313]

RE: Best Post of the Year

I think I would say that Stinky's good fortune is due to the good Karma he put out there and this post proves it!

I think this also proves the overall brotherhood that people can get off a site such as this and the willingness of strangers to unite to help someone....I applaud all that were involved in this in their positive attitudes, efforts, and overall forgiveness over a bad situation. That pays dividends in the end as Stinky can attest to by his awesome bull and experiences.

I'm going to miss reading about those 'Dutton 400" 6x6' adventures, but at least there is a Colorado Deer hunt he can have a good story to tell us about!



?-ERock-> ?

 

[ForkWest]

WOW....WOW!!!!!!

I've followed all the stinkyness through the whole run but refrained from any comments.

I'll tell ya, "the rest of the story" is fit for Paul Harvey syndication.

It was worth telling on so many levels.

There really are some great guys around here.

That's a fine line to walk in sharing what you did, and you tactfully maintained dignity for all.

Really impressed.

 

[slamdunk]

It gives me goose bumps reading the posts now that the story has been aired, there are people posting that we hardly ever see make a peep.
I believe it was EROCK1313 that said it's Tony?s good karma that got us that bull.
It was also the good people and a good group of guys who still believed we could get it done regardless........and that's exactly what we did.

I want to personaly thank EVERYONE that helped out, right down to the many PM's i have received from volunteering information and muscle power to help bring one out once we got one down.
There are too many names to mention and i'd hate to leave one out, but you all know who you are

Having said that, lets let this thing die now and start our homework for next elk season!!

 

[stinkystomper]

I must do one last post before closing this hunt for good. You are off slammy. You, I and everyone involved gave 110%. We hiked till our bodies could physically take no more. We did everything humanly possible to outsmart the giants we were seing from a distance on a regular basis. All our efforts were in vain. You admitted to me along with brock that we were done. Brock prayed the same prayer I did the night before the last day. We agreed we had failed miserably and had nothing more to give. We asked god for his divine intervention and left it to the greater power. What happened? We made a very short, fairly simple hike all down hill to one spot and sat and prayed. No buglig, nothing. Next thing we know there was literally a bull between 390 and 400" standing on the hill across from us. Nothing short of GOD is what made this hunt and we all know that. I would just like to give credit where credit is due. God did a lot of amazing things on this hunt.....

silly liberals, paychecks are for workers!

 

[ktc]

LAST EDITED ON Oct-01-09 AT 05:31PM (MST)[p]stinky,

I cannot wait to see what you, and the kid from Idaho, get in 34. Just another reason stinky has a big heart. I will always tie my great Oryx to you and the help you offered up. You did not have to help the Idaho kid nor did you have to help me hunt Oryx. Your bull is good kharma partly because you help those who need help.

Wow stinky! That last post sounds very familiar! My wife and I had the same thing happen in 2007. Spooky!

 

[sludge]

Stinky,

I've got to admit, having never met you and having read some of your interesting previous posts, I didn't know what to think of you. But after this post, I have to say, I would love to share an elk camp with you anytime and anywhere (if you pick up a bow of course!!!!!). It's a rare person that can forgive when money is on the line... let alone an elk hunt of the caliber that you had. Once again congrats on a beautiful bull, but more so, thanks for setting an example of what's really important in life. Thanks for the story and may the good Lord bless you with many elk hunts in the future for handling a difficult situation the way you have.

Sludge

 

[KILLERBEE]

LAST EDITED ON Oct-01-09 AT 10:19PM (MST)[p]the story blows me away really!

just from the forums i'd have to say pro was a great guy. but you know, money can make a man do some crazy things.

in one way i hope that his money/ medical situation brought this all on. { a guy doing what he thinks he has to do for his family}

in the other way i hope it's strickly greed,and hid family health issues are better.


i dant know, never met him. but he has done a TON for utahs hunting.


also my hat is off to stinky for the way he is going about this. top notch guy IMO


whatever the blame, you guys made the best of it. awsome job!!



ANYONE WANT TO GO ON A WOLF HUNT??

 

[PleaseDear]

Geez......

That is a sad deal all the way around.

I would venture to say all of us have lost a job at one time or another with lots of companies moving production to Mexico or Asia so that is a make it thru type deal but the rest of the story is really sad.

Atleast ya had a couple guys with balls and backbone to stick with ya stinky.

Have fun and be safe in Colorado.

Robb

 

[never_catch]

Worth your weight in gold fellas!! You guys seriously better hold your heads up high for conquering that mountain and that bull with the odds stacked as heavily against you as they were in that situation!! Determination, persistance, patience, and committment to one another is what killed that bull IMO...well that and about 3 dozen rounds of ammo... ;-) jk S-Dude!!

This is a hunting story none of us will soon forget that's for damn sure...one with a perfect ending...DUTTON BULL DOWN!!

~Z~

 

[YoungCountry]

Wow!
I need to check MM more often.
Looks like the Big Guy has an even bigger Heart!
It's time for Pro to man-up & Cowboy-up.
You're not gonna keep pulling this kinda crap off pro,I'd highly suggest it being your last time & hopefully it was your first time?
If you are the Man you say you are you will compensate stinky,slam & utfireman when you can & never ever pull this kinda bullshitt ever again.
You keep these kind of tactics up pro & I'll guarantee you'll run in to somebody not near so nice as these guys real quick!
I do expect you pro to reply to this thread,it won't cost you anything & it is time you man-up.



we are YoungCountry, we like all kinds
of music and people, 'cause we do draw some lines'
no our hair is not orange,we don't wear chains and spikes
but we know how to have fun come Saturday night

 

[BradN]

Young Country,

Stinky, Slammy, Ray, etc have let it go. I think it's time for you to do the same. There's no reason to call Pro out on this one if those that were actually harmed aren't doing it. It's between him and them. Pro will do what he will do. Your expectations won't change that. I think we all hope he will make it right. End of story. Let's celebrate big hearts, and let the rest of the story play out.

 

[MulePacker]

I haven't posted for a long time, but this one seems to merit a reply.

Stinky,
CONGRATULATIONS, I to was somewhat skeptical of your antics for that let me apologize for judging a man. Let me offer my respect for a person who looks at the big picture. I beleive you were blessed, but I more firmly beleive that you put yourself in a postion to receive the blessings. It is rare in todays world to find a person who lets the water flow and focuses on what is downstream, best of luck to you with your future hunts and all in life. I agree this was none of our business, thank you for handling it very tactfully. I consider Pro a friend and hate to see him bashed but I believe the information needed to be provided as rumors are seldom healthy.
Congratulations to the crew who stepped up. Stinky I read on another thread where you were looking for your next elk hunt I might know of a hunt for you to consider send me a pm if you are interested.

Pro,
Sorry to hear of your misfortune and to see your name slighted. Know that in me you still have a friend if I can help let me know.

Younghunter,
I don't know if or where this became your business, from what I can tell it isn't. So in the spirit of your post, let me offer you some critique, GROW UP AND KEEP YOUR NOSE OUT OF OTHERS BUSINESS.

 

[logslinger]

I'm having trouble keeping the characters straight in this soap opera. First Pro was a good guy now he's a bad guy, Bobcat was a bad guy now he's a good guy, Stinky you either loved or hated now loved by all except Triple k, Slammy is the one that likes MuscleMilk not Stinky. What next Utfireman is really not a fireman, Slammy is a dual agent working for Mossback and the CIA,QTPIE is not really Stinky's wife just some hot model that he hired to hook the younger viewers. I can't wait for tomorrow see what happens on "AS STINKY'S WORLD TURNS'

 

[slamdunk]

ROFLMAO!!!!
Well troops, we just learned we can't slip nuttin past logslinger!!

......who probably really isn't even a lumberjack. ;-)

 

[LowCountryElk]

I still think Stinky's a punk who can't shoot straight.
Underdork



LMAO!! Come on guys, ole Baby Huey's the one we love to hate!! And I can tell you that Slam is a double agent .... he works nights for Homeland Security opening up everyone's luggage and messing with their underwear.

 

[YoungCountry]

LAST EDITED ON Oct-02-09 AT 05:52PM (MST)[p]Hey ProPacker.
Never said it was any of my business.
But if you think pro is right by screwin fellow hunters over you are very blind & wrong.
If your buddy pro is half the man you think he is,please get a hold of him & he can at least come on mm & prove it to us.
'Pro,
Sorry to hear of your misfortune and to see your name slighted. Know that in me you still have a friend if I can help let me know.'
"name slighted"?
If it's slighted,he earned it himself.
I don't think it's o.k. for pro or anybodyelse to screw fellow hunters over,maybe you do?
The bad part about this whole deal is,stinky's gonna let this go due to the size of his heart & the circumstances,if pro pulls this on somebody again they may not be as good hearted as this bunch has been,he needs to learn a lesson.


we are YoungCountry, we like all kinds
of music and people, 'cause we do draw some lines'
no our hair is not orange,we don't wear chains and spikes
but we know how to have fun come Saturday night

 

[ktc]

Is pro on the elk committee?

Who is over the elk committee?

 

[utfireman]

I know he was saying to alot of people that he is going to be on it.

If he is on the commitee, then we might have to rename PRO to Keele Johnson. Seems like those two have alot of things in common.

 

[stinkystomper]

I've had a conversation with pro and saw into his eyes. That man is not an evil person. Pro gave me his word that one day he will repay me. I don't want repayed but if you feel you must do this to right yourself in the worlds eyes I will not stop you. Just remember pro, what the world says is horse $hit. What the man up stairs thinks about you is all that matters. I don't know your heart but he does. It is not my place or anyone elses for that matter to judge you. You follow him and you will be ok. You said we will one day go on an awesome hunt together. You said we would both have a tag and hunt together as friends. I wait for that day so I can show you how an outastater can kick your arse all over that mountain with my superior elk hunting abilities. So ya, you kida are in debt to me I guess. Now keep your nose to the grind stone and get off this thread pro. Make sure you get that little girl back where she belongs, take care of your son and concentrate on spending quality time with your wife while she's still here. I said it before and I will say it again. Good luck!

PS..... None of this would have happened if I had used sound business judgement like I have in building my business here in NM. I made a poor decision in paying that much money up front and all of the blame lies solely on me. PERIOD! Now lets get over it. I feel horrible that you two worked for free doug and ray. I will make it up to you and you both know I'm good for it.

silly liberals, paychecks are for workers!

 

[LowCountryElk]

Stink,
We'll take good care of those two in CO and show 'em how NM boys can do the job. Now quit being nice!!! Work on your shooting abilities ok??? And take care of my well.
Underdork

 

[ktc]

LAST EDITED ON Oct-03-09 AT 11:51AM (MST)[p]Bad deal.

:-(

 

[Tuffbucker]

Wow...talk about being humbled through someone else's experience. I would love to say that I would have reacted with as much patience and understanding as stinky....but I dont know if I would have. I admire the way stinky has handled this situation and I hope it will serve as a reminder to me next time I find myself in a situation similar to this.

 

[bullmania]

Character is definitely something Slam has a lot of and Congrats to you Stinky and to all the guys that helped you....




Bullmania

 

[theox]

wow i was completly unaware of any of this wow. i dont know the situatuion that pro had and maybe it was necessary and maybe it wasnt. im sure he probably doesnt care our opinions on this but maybe one day he will tell his side of the story. sounds pretty low but desperate times call for desperate measures. im not justifying anything he did. ive butted heads with him on a few subjects and dont care to much for his views on things. i hope his actions are justified to the people involved.


?It takes a genius to whine appealingly.?
Mr.Whiny

 

[stinkystomper]

I look at it this way. Pro spoke of a unit with lots of giant bulls. Everyone called bs on him saying this and he payed dearly for it. However, I bought into the story of lots of bulls over 370. Was I seeing lots of bulls over 370? Not every day, but I did see more than several bulls over 370 and saw massive bulls almost on a daily basis. Seems funny that everyone ran the Dutton down but pro. It's also funny that Pro's description of the bulls in that area where much closer than anyone else's. Funny how I go to an under dog unit and pull out a bull most said was impossible. Was it possible pro might know just a little something about that unit? I think so. I also watched several different hunts from bearsears with pro in them. He's called in lots of giant bulls and killed several great ones. None of which can be disputed. He also was undoubtedly in on the lowry bull kill and was directly responsible for putting his hunter in the area where that 400" bull was. This is all documented proof on video that can't be denied. So, no matter the outcome due to a bad economy I was put in a quality unit and killed a better bull than I had expected. So I choose to look at it this way.

silly liberals, paychecks are for workers!

 

[utfireman]

LAST EDITED ON Oct-12-09 AT 10:47PM (MST)[p]What's funny is Lowry and his boy found the bull a few days before the hunt had even started. They even got the bull on video. PRO was in Colorado, he didn't show up until the day before the hunt.

Then when he got there, he wanted them to hunt around hunt creek and adam's head. It was Lowry who said lets go hunt ....... creek.

Yes he was there for the Lowry bull to be killed, but he didn't guide him. That's why Lowry wont give credit to his hunt being a guided hunt by PRO.

I am sorry Tony for saying this, but I am tired of all the lies that have come about from this fiasco. And I am glad that they are over with. I am sure you and Slammy are as well.

Any man who asks to be laid off from work when they have no money is just asking for trouble. No more justifications!

What we had on the Dutton was awesome, karma rewarded us and I would do it again with you in a second. Next time though, let's do it when I don't have a hunt before your's. That way I won't be wore out, and I will remember to laugh and joke more. Colorado is going to be alot of fun.

 

[bullroarer]

Stinky- the way I see it is you are a gracious man who knows the real value of a hunt is not really scores or money or boasting..yea I know I'm laughing at that last one too.. Your heart on this matter with PRO is way above what most wouldve done as is Slammys and the other life-long friends you made on your Dutton hunt.
I am sorry for PRO's situation whatever it is but Dude.... he took $15 grand of your money for what?? To tell you that there are big bulls on the Dutton?? Is that what you're saying? No amount of hardship in a person's life will ever condone that behavior..
I will say a prayer for Bart and his family
There are big bulls in Unit 34..please email me and I'll give you the address to send the check..

 

[stinkystomper]

The circumstance behind the Lowry bull make no difference. The point of my last post was to remind you, and doug both that I was about to buy an auction tag for the san juan at the expo last year. slammy called me and chewed me out and said we are going dutton. The point of my last post was to point out one fact. We were all sold on the Dutton. Pro did that and I choose to look at it on the other side. I don't want to focus on the negative. I choose to look at it on the fact of hey, this wasn't a total fiasco. Carma seemed to have put us in one of the best units in Utah. We thought we were going to get a 430 type bull based off what pro was saying. Well that never materialized. Nor did a bull anywhere near that. Heck, I don't think we ever even saw a 400 bull even though we were all sold on what pro had said all year. Some can say pro bs'd us into the dutton and we were had but I say we had twice the hunt most people had and whether you want to admit it or not, pro was the reason we were on the Dutton. Did pro put us on the bull we shot? NO. Did pro even put us in the area we shot that bull? NO. If you want to give credit where credit is due then tip your hat to Ty Calton. We shot his bull, in his honey hole, his way. Slammy scouted that bull up based off KTC's knowledge, and we hunted that bull based off KTC's knowledge. If not for KTC we would have left that area half way through the hunt due to the overcrowding. I say that bull was a combination of KTC's guidance and slammy's dogged determination to never give up, PERIOD! So, look at it how you want. I hate looking at things from the negative side. What's done is done and you need to seriously let it go ray. It's over. Fact is the lowry bull was over 400, so were lots of bulls. Heck the Ogden bull was even a Dutton bull. We were told about all the big bulls being killed on that mountain and we all got sold on the idea that the dutton was the best unit in Utah and that a 400 bull was behind every tree. No we didn't see that many bulls, but I got exactly what I paid for. It just so happened that I got just what I paid for in a totally different way. I think its funny how god will take a completely horrible situation and turn it into something even better if you let him. Well, once I was out of money I did a lot of praying and out of nowhere the hunt ended up being better than any of us could have ever hoped for. Now please let this stupid thread die off or some mod please remove it. This is getting stupid. I say if you can nuke my original post on the dutton which was basically my diary of which I was hoping to print out and keep with my bull then why in heck is this stupid thread still up? I would much rather the other post be up instead of this one.

silly liberals, paychecks are for workers!

 

[Buckmania]

LAST EDITED ON Oct-13-09 AT 07:38AM (MST)[p]I SAY LEAVE THE THREAD! it speaks volumes of what stand out guys you are. It is so refreshing to see a hunter that has been wronged react the way you do versus what we usually see like "I'm going to rip out his eyes and piss in his dead skull" or "if he did that to me I make him disappear, SSS" etc. etc. People have a hell of a time keeping things in perspective and it's laughable to see people spew physical threats on the internet over money, hunting, 4 wheelers off road and all the stupid crap that people do.

 

[ktc]

stinky,

Wow! Do I feel good! Ha!;-) I hope I gave you something to go on. That was all I wanted to do. I told you almost a year ago I would help you, but not for money, for help one day in NM was my payment. Well, what did you do? Put me on the 12th largest free ranging Oryx in North America ever recorded? The 37th 40"+ Oryx ever killed on WSMR? Buddy, we are even and hopefully one day we can do a little paid and re-paid action down the line!?!?

".....and that is all I have to say about that!"-Gump

buckmania,

That was funny! Ha! "piss in his dead skull?" ;-)

I am with stinky, keep the thread, but lets move on and up!

 

[ktc]

Just to be clear stinky, "my spot" is WARBIRDUM's spot also. He helped me a ton so I knew it also. I am glad it all worked out stinky.

 

[4blade]

dont know you stink, but I am a firm believer that good things happen to good people... so take my advice and go buy a lottery ticket.

 

[slamdunk]

Someone else bought his lottery ticket for him and it didn't quite pan out like it was intended.

 

[HillbillyNnevada]

It takes one heck of a guy to turn the other cheek over $15,000. I don't think I could do it.

 

[wapiti67]

Ummm...once again you're telling Lies Fireman...
I was on the mountain with Lowry a week before the Rifle hunt started..It was just him and I! No one else....Joe was the one that gave us some clues on where to get into the lower areas...Brent and I went into those areas and saw a few bulls and some deer...a few days later Pro came from guiding in Colorado. He and I went into the area and found "THE" bull...Brent was nowhere close at the time...we hunted a few ridges over for the first 3 days and came into the area where Brent shoot his bull after that...Had a few less of the family been along, Brent would have been 100 yards instead of 400...you have no clue what happened there and your speculation just makes you look like a Dork...get it right before you put up nonsense will you?

 

[utfireman]

LAST EDITED ON Oct-14-09 AT 09:03PM (MST)[p]Wow John! I guess your calling Brent a lier about his hunt then. I talked to Brent personally about his hunt, our conversation was just a little over a month ago.

He told me everything about how he worked with Bart at Qwest, and how Bart convinced him to put in for the Dutton instead of the Monroe. We talked for over an hour about it.

Next time I talk to him I will make sure that I tell him how you feel about him and his story.

 

[wapiti67]

LAST EDITED ON Oct-14-09 AT 09:08PM (MST)[p]I'm calling you and who ever is spreading these lies...I was there! Bart and I guided the hunt...not you...not anyone else. The Bull is on the wall...the pictures are on Facebook...no sweat Dude...where are the pictures of your bull?

 

[wapiti67]

I love Brent...no problem with him..But, we all know how much you like to change a story around and tell all sorts of BS

 

[utfireman]

LAST EDITED ON Oct-14-09 AT 10:48PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Oct-14-09 AT 10:44?PM (MST)

John your something else. I sure would like to hear about all of these stories. Do you want to go to lunch or do dinner one day? I will buy.

If you only knew of all that crap that your "friend" has said about you behind your back. I am sure if you knew what was said, you wouldn't be so loving toward him. It has been said to alot of people.

I don't expect you to believe what I say, Bart's your friend. But if you want to know the truth on the Dutton fiasco, contact Slam Dunk or Redsetter. Redsetter is on the UWN and he is/was Liz's doctor. He also had a joyful experiance with Bart, and I am sure he would love to tell you the story as well.

What's funny is Doug and I are compasionate guy's, and we are always willing to help people out. We would have been willing to help him out, but instead of talking to us. He blew us off and spent the money at will. He was told he could spend his portion of the money only, but instead he spent all of it. Tony ended up having to spend even more money because of this.

Alot of this would have been forgotten if he would have shown some humility and said that he was sorry to all of those involved. Instead, I am a big jerk for blowing the whistle and telling Tony.

Think and say what you will about me, but those who know the really story just end up laughing.

 

[utfireman]

Also nothing is going to be gained by all of this "he said, she said" stuff. I am done with this topic, I will respect Tony's wishes and I will let it go.

 

[wapiti67]

I am something else...I tell the truth and don't spout lies and enuendo.. I'm pretty sure I didn't mention anything about Tony's hunt or this years Dutton crap...Bart can fight his own battles when and where he chooses...But, when you start spouting crap about things I'm involved with, you better choose your words wisely. I will not be slandered or slighted Ray...anything you choose to say about the Hunt in 2004, you better be checking your facts with me, before putting it out on this forum...GOT IT?!

 

[utfireman]

LAST EDITED ON Oct-15-09 AT 07:36AM (MST)[p]Their are no lies here John, like I said. I talked to Brent Lowry myself, I told the story just as Brent told it to me.
All of this came from his mouth, and like I said earlier. I will make sure I pass on your regards to him.