Some Facts About Mr. Coldwell

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Ok, I've been hearing a lot about this deal concerning Jeff Coldwell. So, I called the Weld County Court and Boulder County Court today.

In Weld County, Jeff Coldwell is charged with Illegal Possesion of Wildlife.

In Grand County, Jeff Coldwell is charged with Hunting Without A License.

That's all that is public information. I did not get hearing dates. Once the hearings are over, we'll know more I'm sure.

Brian Latturner
MonsterMuleys.com
 
Thank's Brian!
I am glad theirs no charges of anything blateant or mulitple counts(a barn full of racks,etc,etc!).
hang in there DK!
RM
 
Hopefully we will know the truth soon enough.
If he is innocent, he's got a little explaining to do.
If he is found guilty of poaching, he deserves the book thrown at him.

My opinion only.

Regards,
Chef
 
Nothing in Boulder county? Other counties?
I am still in shock!?! Oh well, guess we'll see what happens.

Jeff
 
Rack,
How did he not show a blatent disregard for the law if he is in fact guilty? Perhaps my definition of blatent is wrong?
Founder,
While I in no way wish to tell you how to run your website, dont you think this topic is better off being dropped until the court system has done its job and we know what the verdict is? Discussion on this topic is bound to be a repeat of another thread. Perhaps a "Law and Order Conference" is needed here? Just my $0.02.
ismith
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-19-06 AT 03:38PM (MST)[p]GROSS,EXCESSIVE WITH INTENT!!!
I will wait and see! WITH OUT a license is tough though!
RM
 
Well, there were so many people giving me an earful about it and so much guessing going on. So, I found out what is public info. and provided it.

It's just news, just like what might show up in a newspaper if it were some congressman or movie star.

PS - Browtine will delete or lock this thread also if it gets out of hand in any way. Thanks Brandon.

Brian Latturner
MonsterMuleys.com
 
Cat was out of the bag to begin with, so it's only right to clean up the matter with the truth. You're right, you can't win, but it's the right position to take Brian.

People shouldn't use this as an excuse to concoct 50 "well what if he..." The charges are what they are and the meat of it won't be out there until it has seen court. It's been implied that he's "sorry for what he did" so whatever it is the implication is that guilt isn't a matter for debate. The seriousness of a given charge certainly is.

Thanks for putting it straight. For the most part people say NOTHING when the person/poacher in the charge line isn't someone they know. So I don't really care when they're indignant about waiting for due process now. It's an information world and you can't stop it! Emails, PM's web sites... if someone wants to get it out, it gets out. What you can do is make sure that what get's out is the truth to the best you can verify, again, the right thing to do Brian.
 
and he just up and "lost" it this year............and made a one time mistake in the heat of the moment..........yeah......right........pretty "blatant" when you get charged in two different counties in the same year for game violations.

where there is smoke, there is fire......I would be willing to bet mr. coldwell has had a long and prosperous poaching career.
 
Thanks Brian. You just renewed a lot of people's faith in you and this wonderful site! I'm proud to be a member!

Steve
 
thank you brian for confirming this. I appreciate you contacting the DOW and those court houses.

Guys, I am sorry if I started out on the wrong foot. I am just pretty darn passionate about this issue. I am just like you I really love to hunt. I love our wildlife and our outdoors. I will help anyone I can. I just have strong feelings against poaching. We are all faced with choices everyday. We must have integrity in our decisions. Integrity to me, means doing the right thing when no one else is around.
 
I don't judge people for their mistakes, but what they do to fix them. And we ALL make mistakes. Hopefully Jeff remembers what a privileage it is to be in the outdoors and hunt these magnificent animals. Hopefully he remembers that it's about the experiences we have and the memories we make that's important, and not the deer's B&C score. Maybe someday he'll get to take his kid out hunting, and seeing the look on his kids face when he bags his first deer will make him realize that the biggest deer in the world isn't worth the risk of missing moments like those. Jeff must have lost track of what's really important. I sure hope he finds his way back.
 
Before you Holier then Though's go off on a Tangent, My butt is here for you to Kiss, and I have 2 cheeks. You Bastages always crucify people when you get a chance.

Lost his way, Having integraty, Facts........ WT heck ? No offence but shut up for a change.

You guys are like a bunch of Gossiping Women. He can come out and say what he did if he wants, or never has to. DK knows were he stands in my book and Alot of others. MAke your holier then though posts and I hope the Glass that breaks with the Stones you're throwing in the Glass house cuts you.

Some of us knew when it happened the day after and some of us knew alot later, Either way, some of us thought it not to be our Busines while Others felt they needed to tell everybody.

Don't loose track of all the good things somebody does because of one incident. Be it on purpose or on accident.

Eelgrass said :

"You just renewed a lot of people's faith in you and this wonderful site!"

This just proves why I think most of you Suck. Go after someone like me that continually does bad things, not after a Great guy that has done one.


  • [*] -Moosie
~~If you're going to walk on thin ice, Ya might as Well DANCE !!
WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-19-06 AT 08:55PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Apr-19-06 AT 08:54?PM (MST)

sir if you will notice this man didnt do this just once...it was in fact more that one time.

once is poaching...maybe more that once could be called habitual
 
"Integrity to me, means doing the right thing when no one else is around."

Thats a Funny statement from Someone that didn't even call the DOW himself and is Relying on someone else to call and then Talking crud about it ? But maybe we look at "integrety" of another fellow man differently ?

...SIR !! Or Mr. HeBitchual.




  • [*] -Moosie
~~If you're going to walk on thin ice, Ya might as Well DANCE !!
WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
 
moosie, I am the one who told the founder to call, I was the one who called first, nice try.

have a nice day
 
moosie why are you bashing me ? I am not the one how was caught poaching...I was just the one who told the news.

You like to bash the messenger?
 
Thanx for Clearing that up, I've been told, and Thanx for making a post without editing it 3 times.........

I made a Post, I made a point, Catch it if you want, let it go if you must. I'm sure more have their .02 worth too.

Have a "better" day....


  • [*] -Moosie
~~If you're going to walk on thin ice, Ya might as Well DANCE !!
WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
 
safarikid74,
This horse is DEAD. Quit preaching and focus on something positive, like your sheep tag.
ismith
 
I jusst don't like Holier then though poster attitudes, don't mix that up with being angry.... Please PM me for Further discussion, this page was made for info on DK, not for me and you to go toe to toe... you said your Piece, I said mine, Itegrity is Bowing out also, I will now step down, Hopefully you can as well....

PM me in the future. or Start a New Thread.


  • [*] -Moosie
~~If you're going to walk on thin ice, Ya might as Well DANCE !!
WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
 
thanks dude , my wife didnt kill me, I have called just about every one! I also drew a NM oryx tag. I hope you guys do well in the draw
 
Moosie,
Please read "DEERKING Update" if you havent already, or at least skim or speed read it. "Proper use of a post" and "Lawyer Jokes" are also recommended reading.
ismith
 
Dont let Bess know your luck in the draws.. Lord only knows how he would react. :)
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Later, Brandon
 
Moosie said.....

This just proves why I think most of you Suck. Go after someone like me that continually does bad things, not after a Great guy that has done one.

Nobody is "going after" DK except the DOW. I simply thanked Founder for setting the record straight, after all the rumors that were going around.

We all love big bucks here. And most of us hate to see any animal killed illegally.

Steve
 
Founder,

Thanks for giving the charges. I am amazed how much for a lack of a better term "back stabbing" there is on this site. I think that in the future you should implement a policy that when someone is charged with a wildlife offense, (and it will happen again) whether they are a member or not there should be one post, charges and location of offenses and then lock it down. It does know one any good to speculate on the character of individuals involved. After they are convicted, plead guilty or acquited then let the individuals that want to vent have a say. I know that I have not lived a perfect life and as I got older I judge people on how they react or take responsibility for mistakes, not on the mere fact that they made a mistake. Character is shown during adversity and not when things are going your way.

Rich
 
NOTE TO MOOSIE:

CUT BACK ON THE CHOCOLATE MILKSHAKES! They seem to be making you more and crabby....or is that the old age setting in! :)


SCOTT

OH yeah, FOUNDER,

THanks for the post and the clarification. I dont care what Moosie and Browtine say about you, you're a good guy in my book! :)
 
Charges in 2 counties do NOT neccesarily mean 2 different incendences. Both are probably charges relating to the same incident.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
is anyone curious how big of an animal he has in possession? it's got to be huge or at least I think it would be. someone mentioned that they knew of the wildlife incident the day after it happened, how were you so privy
 
Ridge, the reason a few people knew of the incident the day after it happened is because Jeff told us! Just like he went and told the G&F what had happened! He felt horribly guilty about what he had allowed to happen and didn't want to try and hide it. He could have just as easy covered it up like 99% of the rest of the people in his position would have done. In my opinion that is what makes his situation MUCH different. Jeff is one of the most selfless, honest, genuine persons that I've ever met in my life. I'm not trying to defend him or say that what he did wasn't wrong. It was wrong! But I can guarantee you none of us will have to worry about him stealing our wildlife again. He's beat himself up every single day since it happened for the last 5 months now! I see no point in making it any worse... He's made his bed and believe me he's laying in it... Personally I don't care what HUGE mistake he's made, he's still a great guy. He'd have to do a whole he11 of a lot more bad things to even come close to the amount of good that he's done for others in his life.

I agree with the post above about just stating the facts in a thread and then locking it up whenever anyone is being nailed for violations. I don't care who it is they don't need to be hammered on by the "hollier than though" people on this site that have never done a thing wrong in their life!

Or I guess we can just keep hammering on each other and see how much good comes out of it, shall we! Comon guys... Grow up!

NvrEnuf
 
Safarikid,
Perhaps you could enlighten us on where it was said he did it more than once. What I read is he was charged with two different things, which could arise from one incident. I am not defending him, I just do not appreciate facts being manipulated into something they are not, but I guess thats what lawyers do.
 
Looks like I rubbed some people the wrong way. Nothing ever comes out right ;-).
Anybody that's been around this site for a while knows that Jeff's a great guy. He screwed up, and it sounds like he's paying for it. I have friends that have done worse than Jeff (not necessarily in the hunting world).
I guess we all should just put it in perspective. If our buddy was cheating on his wife, stealing from his company, and using drugs, we stand by him to the end. But, if he uses his wife's deer tag, we hang him out to dry.
 
The world is changing. Information flows run at the speed of sound and light. I think a good man was caught or caught himself doing something illegal and probably morally wrong. We can all learn something from this. Remember, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. Maybe, in a weak moment the "Greed" factor took over. I sure don't know what happened. I always appreciated DK's commentary. A tenet I live with is try not to criticize until I know what the other mans moccasins have had to trod. Maybe good medicine for us all.

Dean Parisian
Chippewa Partners
http://chippewapartners.blogspot.com/
 
NvrEnuf -
GREAT post.
Jeff is so disgusted in himself, that no matter how much he gets bashed by others, it is no where near as hard as he is being on himself.
My thoughts are with Jeff, guilty or not guilty, he is going through self-inflicted hell right now.

Lien2
 
"But, if he uses his wife's deer tag, we hang him out to dry."

As we should.
Guess that just makes me holier than thou huh?
A lot of people getting heated over this. Most game
violation incidents do. This one involves a friend.
So do you look the other way? Sure don't, you look
harder, because they should know WAY better.

There are many that don't know anything (about the
topic at hand) other than what was said on these posts.
There are others that know a lot more than they
have stated too. Some members that have not even posted.
I believe that it isn't only "his business" and that
it is indeed all of ours.

Maybe we shouldn't talk about it until the charges stick?
Maybe since he's a great guy we shouldn't condemn
his actions? I say, this again, this will be a bigger
lesson for us all and has already affected us all here.

"People need to understand these are criminals that
are actually doing this, it's not a hunter, it's a
criminal that's out poaching." -Moosie

Chef
"I Love Animals...They're Delicious!"
 
here's my take for what it's worth. i know no one and honestly it's not my business. the guy screwed up...he admits it and sounds like he's beating himself up for it. i don't know the cirumstances, but he could have stayed shut up about it, not told anyone and odds are nothing would have ever come up about it, but he was a man about it and turned himself in.
yes he screwed up, and yes he deserves what he gets, but he deserves some credit for turning himself in and telling his friends. him telling those of you who are friends with him was probably harder than turning himself in to the law. he probably feels like he let everyone down. and he did. but he manned up and stepped up to what he's got coming to him. for that i give him credit. if this all came out 10 yrs down the road, and he was trying to cover it up i would not feel the same way.
just my .02
Josh
 
Well said Jackelope. Nobody, including DK, is saying that he should skate by without the appropriate punishment from the government. However, we as his friends or web-aquantiances should be willing to take into account his actions after the fact. Admitting whatever it was he did to friends then turning himself in when noone in authority knew what he had done took a lot of character. It is just the sort of thing I work so hard to teach my children.

Mark
 
Josh
That is the most well put statement I've read on this subject. He definately deserves any and all punishment coming his way, but he is taking it like a man. Thanks for your pennies.

Larry
 
HE WAS CAUGHT RED HANDED, HE WAS DRIVING OUT OF A UNIT AND STOPPED BY THE DOW, QUESTIONED AND IT DIDNT MATCH UP, SO HE WAS ASKED TO TAKE THE DOW TO THE KILL SITE...AND SO ON
 
What makes you so sure that is the way it happened safarikid? Were you their or did someone just tell you that? Quit trying to fan the flames and just let it be man...

Don't you have anything else to worry about?

It's obvious that it bothers you to death to think that some of us are actually going to forgive Jeff for his screw up...

Can we get a thread lock put on this freaking mess AGAIN!

NvrEnuf
 
safarikid,
It WAS NOT mentioned that there was a Boulder Co. charge. the only charges mentioned were Weld and Grand Co. Now if the incident occured in Grand Co. and he lives in Weld Co., well there you go. Is it really that hard for you to understand? What is the Boulder Co. charge? Quit stating "facts" you don't know. Or, if you do know, give us your sources. Unless you are involved with the case, have talked to Jeff or any others who HAVE talked to him, quit giving your OPINION on what you THINK happened and wait for the real FACTS to come out. Why are you so uptight about this anyway? Why does it concern you so much if he poached, got caught, and is facing the music? You are acting like he did something wrong and is not getting punished for it. Show him some respect. I'd hate to be one of your clients right now, considering you are so concerned about a case that doesn't involve you, yet you are spending so much time talking #####. GET A LIFE.
 
I GOT MY INFORMATION FROW THE DOW, I REALLY DONT CARE ABOUT DK, I DONT KNOW HIM, HE MAY BE A NICE GUY BUT TO ME HE IS NOTHING MORE THAT ANOTHER POACHER. I JUST CARE WHEN PEOPLE POACH OUR WILDLIFE AND THEN ARE FORGIVEN...DID ALL OF YOU GUYS FORGIVE DARNER?
 
safarikid, in your post above you said,

"thank you brian for confirming this. I appreciate you contacting the DOW and those court houses.

Guys, I am sorry if I started out on the wrong foot. I am just pretty darn passionate about this issue. I am just like you I really love to hunt. I love our wildlife and our outdoors. I will help anyone I can. I just have strong feelings against poaching. We are all faced with choices everyday. We must have integrity in our decisions. Integrity to me, means doing the right thing when no one else is around."

You're right, it has been confirmed. If you're so sorry that you've "started off on the wrong foot" then quit stiring the freaking pot man! We all love to hunt, love our wildlife and the outdoors. That's why we hang out here. At least most of us. I guess there are some that just want to ##### and moan and whine all day about an old horse that's been beaten to death several times. Move on, try to think about something productive for a change like where you're going to go sheep hunting this fall.

What good is going to come from the comments you continue to make on this subject? What's done is done... LET IT GO!

NvrEnuf
 
RE: Some Facts About Safarikid

safarikid,
Less than 2 minutes to respond. WOW. In your PM, the person who gave you the information has exact words that are "...if I am not mistaken." So your source of information is not even sure of himself. Is he involved with the case? Has he spoken to Jeff? I know from personal experience that one thing gets said, then another, then another, and by the time the 3rd or 4th person hears it, it couldn't be further from the truth. So unless you have spoken directly to Jeff, or have seen the court dockets, LET IT GO already.

P.S. Tell him to come on here and call everybody clowns. Didn't think so.
 
RE: Some Facts About Safarikid

As I sit here at my computer trying to understand and make some sense of what is going on one thing continues to plague me! Who is safarikid???? All the sudden this guy comes on here and has got so many of you FIRED UP! First of all I want to make clear that this is my opinion, some of you might share the same opinion and some might disagree, I am ok with it either way!!

DK seems to have messed up pretty bad, there is no question about that, whether you like the guy or not he messed up! With that being said I have to admit when Kirt Darner was being attacked I joined in the posts just like many other people. But one person changed my opinion. See I labeled Kirt as a poacher, right away without any research or prior knowledge. One guy on here pointed this out to me and I have since changed my ways. I still believe what I believe about Kirt but I have learned to let nature take it's course before I make any judgements. I am going to do the same for DEERKING. He seems like a pretty good guy and also he seems very remorseful for what he has done. Whether the guy is guilty or not I am going to forgive him for one reason and one reason only..... I have made mistakes in my life and where would I be today if it wasn't for people forgiving me. DK posts have always been top notch. For that I am going to give him the benifit of the doubt. The second thing I would like to point out is for being a supposed "well educated Cornell graduate" safarikid you have alot of things to learn. Number one you have started something you won't be able to finish. By that I mean you have already dug your crave on this website. No matter what your posts may consist of from this point forward you are going to have a hard time making any friends around here. I will venture a guess and say you will play out just about like others in the past have. I don't remember there screen names but anyone that has been around for awhile know exactly who and what I am speaking of. Number three over in the locked post you made a threat.......... something along the lines of "well come on over to where I live and run your mouth.."""" Actually it was post number 94! That is funny that has been played out so many times on this website. You don't have any clue what type of guys you are dealing with on this website. Your threats aren't going to get you anywhere on this website. Maybe you are some big tough guy sitting at your law office waiting to pounce on the less fortunate but around here you are just another guy throwing empty threats around SHAME ON YOU!!!!! You also mentioned that you don't know DEERKING, so how can you sit there and call him a "poacher" maybe you believe that.... I am not going to argue with you about that, maybe in your mind he is. Who am I to tell you how or what you should believe. That is not what I am getting at, all I am saying is isn't there any room for a gray area. For example isn't there a difference between someone that poached there entire life and someone that let it happen once and is remorseful and without knowing the guy you can imagine that it won't ever happen again. I know a guy back in my hometown that was a poacher his entire life, he has been charged several times but continues to do it. Everytime I see him in the mountains I often find myself wandering if he is poaching again. Not only that but some of the animals that are in question he has hanging in the bar that he owns. I mean the guy is a real piece of work. According to your thoughts and beliefs DEERKING belongs in the same category as this guy. This is where I would have to step in and say "there is definetly some gray area" To me there is a difference between a habitual poacher and a guy that poached one time! I too get disgusted when I here about poaching, the word itself makes me mad and even though I don't personally know DK I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt regardless of the outcome.
 
RE: Some Facts About Safarikid

Coldwell told me last year he was being investigated by DOW for guiding without a license, related to Antlerquest, where he provides info for a fee, but no hands on help in the field.

Sounded fairly innocent like one of those "damn fish cops" being a little overzealous deals. So I did not think much about it. Maybe the more serious issues popped up during that investigation.
 
RE: Some Facts About Safarikid

LAST EDITED ON Apr-20-06 AT 03:31PM (MST)[p]Muley,Very good post.I think you and i [if im not mistaken]Argued on the darner stuff.I hope that was you cause,it seems you have learned somthing...Funny how experiance,changes our opinions...
Eventually,Safari will grow up just like the most of us have...
 
RE: Some Facts About Safarikid

No one here is perfect. Why don't we just drop all of this crap. Leave Jeff alone. If he wants to tell us about it, fine, and if he doesn't, that is fine, too. In fact, I wish Brian would just get rid of the posts about Jeff. Geez, some of you guys act like you're such perfect little angels. Makes me want to puke! People, let it go. Paul
 
RE: Some Facts About Safarikid

AMEN bigmuley.

Safarikid,
Do yourself a favor and read that post several times.
 
RE: Some Facts About Safarikid

I haven't said anything about this as I usually try to stay away from these kinds of threads. It is funny how many guys on here feel it is less of an offense for Deerking to poach a deer than someone they don't know. If a lot of you guys had never heard of DK you would be ready to hang him. Secondly everyone seems to be saying that this is a one time deal for him. You guys have no idea if this is true. I am definately not saying he has done this before as I don't know the guy but from my own experiences poachers usually are not caught the first time they break the law. For people to say he is not a poacher because he has only done it this one time are fooling themselves. If a deer is taken ilegally it is poached there for he is a poacher. he may not be a habitual poacher like some guys but a poacher none the less. There is no saying he would not have done it again if not caught. If you will do it once more than likely you would do it again if given the chance. He posted awesome photos on here and may have been an awesome guy to talk to but from the way things look he has taken an animal or animals ilegally and for that his image has been severely tarnished in my eyes. If it turned out he was not guilty of these charges I would be the first to apologize for thinking the worst.
 
RE: Some Facts About coldwell

guys, i am not the one who broke the law here. IF YOU CANT FACE THE FACTS...THEN DONT READ IT!!! I am sorry your FRIEND broke the law and poached while at the same time getting caught. If you want to be mad at me for bringing it out and you not being able to handle it then so be it...be mad at me, I dont really care, I will sleep perfectly at night. I am not the one who broke the law.
 
Very well said NvrEnuf. Until everything comes out I will just sit back and watch the show. Jeff is a great guy and I truely believe he feels bad about what happened. I hope everything works out for the best.

IB
 
RE: Some Facts About coldwell

safarikid,
you are NOT posting all the FACTS. You are posting at best second hand, (and probably 3rd, 4th, 5th, and who knows how much more,) information.
 
RE: Some Facts About coldwell

wrong look at the first thread on the "deerking update" by huntsonora.
 
RE: Some Facts About coldwell

All good points bigM. And if everyone takes that approach on every single person or case we read about here, all the better.

The real reason this rises to a different level is not just that DK is known but that DK is/was "in the business". If wildlife is business as well as pleasure, if you post pictures of live and dead game at least in part to show your expertise and appeal to potential clients, if you create an atmosphere (here at MM) that you are the equivilant of a deer hunting pro... well, you set youself up to be held to a higher standard. IE... it's worse than when joe blow does it. It's the burden of fame. This is why no one is going to report on MM every guy that was cited in boulder county last year and why DK is going to take lumps.

Fact is they can lock this thread if they like but that won't settle anything. Loyalty is a noble trait and good on the guys that want to be supportive. However, IMO, better to let the fire burn all it's fuel out than just cover it with dirt... it'll just be there waiting. Guys who want to kick this dead horse into oblivion will do it sooner if there's less of what appears to be a defense or excuse for him. My .02 anyhow.
 
RE: Some Facts About coldwell

okay JEFF is a great guy...he never did a thing, and he would never do a thing. some of you need tpo really open your eyes here.

I bet some of you still believe in the easter bunny, dont you
 
RE: Some Facts About coldwell

Colville, you have a very good point, and kind of stole my thunder on the business side of this story. I almost posted the same thought, but witheld my comments until the justice system runs its' course. However, that being said, if the charges are true, then his high credibility turns into a big fraud!
 

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