I will make this post quick and easy for you all to understand , Randy Ulmers buck was harvested by a group of individuals who dedicate there time to spotting ,stalking and harvesting trophy big game animals on public land, without encroaching on private properties.,Greg krough was the outfitter involved with the harvest of that MONSTER MULEY,Credit given where credit is deserved,If you work hard long enough ,good things will come to you. Just take a look at MOGOLLON RIM OUTFITTING.com, and you will see for youreself ,they are very good at what they do.