Do some area's breed Non Typ more then Typical Muleys?

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After looking at many photos of deer from Mexico it seems like all the big ones are Typicals with very few Non Typ. But when you see photos of deer off the Henry's here in Utah it's just the opposite. They come off with mostly Non Typ and not as many Typical. I am guessing this is all Genetics, but wonder if there are other areas that are like this?
 
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old mexico?...go figure...
 
Never stated they weren't Non Typs from mexico,

Just that they are few and far between. Where as when you see photos of the henry's they seem to be primarily non typ's
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-18-07 AT 11:12AM (MST)[p]DallanC

I've seen that rack before also, but has anyone really tried to see if it wasn't a compiled (Altered) set of horns ?... it's just too unbelievable ?...
 
I agree, its hard to believe those are real. They've got to be 50 - 60 inches wide.

Anyone have more info on this set of horns?
 
Just look at the record books. Typicals are just flat out more prevalent by a long margin. Nontypicals that gross enough to make book are very very rare. A trend that I have noticed about NT's is they can come from about anywhere, not just the counties that produce the most. Look at the #2 (or maybe it's #3) NT out of Box Elder county Utah. I know this county hasn't produced very many since this buck was killed. I think that bucks that are freakishly big (250+) may have something else working for them besides genetics.

Mike
 
">Just look at the record books.
>Typicals are just flat out
>more prevalent by a long
>margin. "

Maybe that's why they're called a Typical???

Michael
"What I could do, I was doing, and that was simply putting my butt on the line for my country, the country that I loved, so that all the protestors and the academics and the liberal intelligentsia back home could enjoy the right to protest against people like me, the hated middleclass." --Gary R. Smith, US Special Forces
 
I'd watch, over the course of one summer, a whole lot of weird little inbred freakies every evening in Wyo. Area Closed (that's 67).
Must have been something in the grain and table scraps and cheetos that the weird little freaky people were feeding them!!!
Farkin' morons.
 
It's all about genetics.

Area 102 in Wyoming was well known as a nontypical giant producer not long ago, now it's just the opposite.

The nontypical genetics are mostly gone now, with a few exceptions.
 
That rack looks an awful lot like a rack hanging in a gun shop in ABQ. That rack is built from several different antlers from various bucks.
 
I think the scarcity of nontypicals has to do with the fact they've been selectively shot since long before rank and file hunters stopped hunting "4-points" and started hunting numbers (gross and net). I'd venture that even as recently as 10 years ago, most mule deer hunters knew little more than that there existed a means of scoring big bucks, and had no idea how it was done.

That said, I definitely have experience of areas where virtually none are produced, and others where they are considerably more common.
 
Hey Jackelope, you may have lots of threes, but I live where giant two points walk the earth. These pisscutters would even give bobcat a thrill.

I think Washington falls into that None-exist thing. I have only seen about three wall hanger non-typicals in my lifetime over the thousands of bucks I have looked over, yet to the North in BC they have been obviously nailing monsters, and Idaho seems to have plenty. For sure has to do with the local gene pools!
 
IF you want to see alot (and I mean a hell of alot) of non-typicals, saddle up the posse and take I-80 west into San Franfreako. The left coast is a haven for non typical types. In fact legend has it that many of a typical have progressed into a non-typical in a matter of minutes in this perverted city and state. GAWD,how I wish I lived in AZ.
 
I definately see a trend of areas that produce more NT's than others. The trash factor is common here in BC but it is really narrowed down to certain areas of the province. Yea a big nontypical can come out of any of the Regions but it seems the Interior Wetbelt of Region 3 and Region 4 produce the most amount of trash. I think heavy moisture plays a roll into it. Devil's Club=Big Trashy Bucks.
 
Dirtytough, thats an incredible buck, really for any state let alone Washington. I'm hoping someday to get a nice non-typical, but afraid the odds aren't in my favor.
 
The incredible thing is, is he passed it up because he didn't think it was big enough. Went back later that day and shot it. The luck some guys have. Later DT
 
>Hey Jackelope, you may have lots
>of threes, but I live
>where giant two points walk
>the earth. These pisscutters
>would even give bobcat a
>thrill.
>
>I think Washington falls into that
>None-exist thing. I have
>only seen about three wall
>hanger non-typicals in my lifetime
>over the thousands of bucks
>I have looked over, yet
>to the North in BC
>they have been obviously nailing
>monsters, and Idaho seems to
>have plenty. For sure
>has to do with the
>local gene pools!
true...i about cr-pped myself this past late summer when i saw a 4x4 muley out where we hunt. there's some good whitetails and i know i need to expand my hunting areas but i like the open country hunting i get to do. there are some monster 2 points too. i found a skull this deer season that was probably 22" wide forked horn, no eyeguards.
 

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