Selling Idaho Deer tags.

Idahoron · Apr 6, 2007

Access yes is needing more dollars to enroll more land. One option this year is to give out tags instead of dollars. Right now Land owner appreation tags (LAP) are not for sale but they are transferable. Should the Access yes tags be above the table and allowed for sale? what do you think?

My own opinon is there should be two different access yes tags. One that will be used by the landowner. The other would be above table for sale. When the landowner puts in his application he chooses which one he wants. This would give the committee some idea what the tag would be used for. This also would weigh in when the committee decides if they want to enroll the land.

Another idea I had was to make the super tags easier to buy. Instead of sending in the paper why not be able to finialize it right at the machine in the sporting goods store?

Another Idea was to do a scratch off lottery ticket. You buy the ticket and scratch it off to see if you get a deer or elk tag.

Any other ideas? Ron

Outdoordan · Apr 6, 2007

The problem with selling the tags is that most units are OTC. So, at any time a person can buy the same tag from a vendor at general deer tag prices. In the case of the limited areas, let's say for instance 45. Any access program would be for a select few people whom drew the tag. This goes against the whole principle of the access program which is too allow general access to private property for the masses, not the few lucky enough to draw the tag.

I wish I could come up with a solution, I am stumped. I will have to think about it.

Idahoron · Apr 6, 2007

The new access yes rule allows for say a landowner in unit 39 or where ever to sign his land up. He could ask for a unit 45 tag! That means that there is a new ball game as to who gets tags. The landowners in unit 45 used to get 25% of the tags. Now the landowners in unit 45 will get 10% and the Access yes program will get 15%
There are a lot of pissed off landowners in unit 45 that have less tags. The Access yes tags are NOT a draw. If the access yes committee accepts the bid. The landowner gets the tag. No Draw.
Ron

300stw · Apr 7, 2007

i believe landowner tags should be allowed to be sold so the landowner has some incentive to help the animals .. but i think landowner tags should be issued for the land and used on that parcel of land, dont give out unit 45 tags let the landowner sell them for 10,000.00 and then the buyer goes down on the blm ground and slays a monster buck.... this provides great incentive for the landowner to provide quality habitat if he wants a decent price for his tags...this increases animal #s and public land will end up with spill over animals,,, the system colorado uses for there tags and private acces to the ranches with tags works pretty well....

Outdoordan · Apr 7, 2007

Ron,
I didn't know they were going that way. Hell, if they are going to do that, then they might as well sell them off (i.e. unit 45 tags)like Utah does at banquets, then use the money for access yes. Then there is better negotiating power. Also, then you don't start an industry of tag brokers that buy and sell tags for 100% markup.
300 STW, you are right, landowner tags for the property they are attached to.

Idahoron · Apr 7, 2007

There is already tag brokers selling "cups of coffee" for up to $7500.00 in unit 45 Ron

kicker · Apr 10, 2007

Hell yah there is. You can't "sell" the tags but you can charge whatever tresspassing fee you want.

It's stupid...........unless someone wants to sell me one

Idahoron · Apr 11, 2007

That is the problem now. They are not selling a tresspass fee. They are not allowed on the ranch to hunt. They must hunt on public land. Ron

idabigbuck · Apr 12, 2007

There are no "Access Yes" properties in unit 44 or 45 right now. The land owners are already being compensated by F&G to allow access to their land If they enroll in Access Yes. And If a land owner has more than 750 acres they are allowed to put in for land owner drawings that are good for the entire unit that their land is in even if they don't enroll in Access Yes. I am against them being able to sell their tags. If they don't want their tags then give them back to the state and have a lottery drawing for them. I hate the fact that some of the best tags could go to the highest bidder. Thats not fair to the average Joe hunter like me.

Idahoron · Apr 12, 2007

You might want to check again. There is a lot of land in unit 44 in Access yes. And there is a little in unit 45 as well.
What if a ranch opens a HUGE area for hunting both on private and public? If the rancher wanted to sell his tag should he? At one time I was aginst it, now I am not so sure. If the rule went like " one tag may be sold per ranch between 1 and 10,000 acres" I think if we could let them sell a tag maybe the price for the land would drop and we could enroll more land. Ron

WACATHUNTER · Apr 12, 2007

I also disagree w/ landowner tags being used unit wide. The property owners in 45 have landlocked land that should somehow be accessible to the public. I know of several very good areas that are public but landlocked. They need to find a way to get some of the adjacent private into access yes. Just my .02.
WACAT