Non-Typical Outfitters

ck · May 2, 2007

Anybody have any opinions on these guys? The outfiiters seems very professional and definitely has produced some monster muleys. What about the other guys in camp that don't get that monster? Any specifics anyone can offer would be great.
Thanks in advance.

ridgerunner · May 2, 2007

He does produce some big ones for sure. I talked to him once this past winter, he was very knowledgable and seemed to really know his stuff. I called back with some more questions, left a couple of messages but never heard back from him. That left a bad taste in my mouth, I know he has a pretty good book of business that repeats so maybe he isn't too concerned about booking new guys. His references were all very positive, both the successful and unsuccesful people.

ck · May 2, 2007

That's kind of the feeling I had with him as well. I think, no doubt, you will have a good hunt with a chance at a big buck. He seemed in a hurry or not interested in me since all I'm not after that monster book deer. I want a solid, first muley. It would be great if it went 170 inches.

wallhanger · May 2, 2007

Since you asked-I sent him a deposite, and then was unable to go on the hunt because I changed jobs. I called him in June, to let him know, and he said he would have no problem filling the spot. He then said I could leave the deposite with him or he would send it back and I could rebook with him the following year. I opted for the latter, not knowing my schedule yet, and he became irritated and offended. I asked him why he offered that then. Anyway, he didn't send the deposite back, and then did not return numerous phone calls in the months following.

He seemed to be a pretty intense guy the couple times I talked to him, and definitely had a passion for the hunt. His references spoke well of him, and all stated that it's a hard hunt in steep country.

take that for what it's worth.

WH

JFWRC · May 2, 2007

Given all is as stated is true, I can say that as an outfitter,that anyone with any integrity and business savvy would have sent the money back in a heartbeat. This type of crap irks me......it refects on others who try to do what's right in a business that's not to well thought of in the first place.

ridgerunner · May 3, 2007

ck I sent you a pm

Muleyslyr · May 3, 2007

JFWRC.....couldn't agree with you more. My father-in-law booked with Bucks-n-Bulls a few years back, paid in full, $6500. His wife of 33yrs. got cancer and passed away in Sept. a coupla' weeks before the hunt. Obviously had to cancel, Bonnett would not refund his money or use it towards next years hunt. More to the story, but you get the point. Talk about leaving a bad taste in your mouth.

As far as Non-Typical Outfitters goes, if you like intense hunts for possible big bucks then it's for you. If you want any easy hunt in the breaks or sage brush it's gonna be out of your league. I would suggest really knowing what your getting into before you book.....any hunt for that matter.

muleymaster · May 3, 2007

Bonnett, has to pay his landowners if you show up or not..... Mr Non-Typical is operating on public land where he has no such set landowner fees a refund could be in order. Also you should check his refund policy filed with the state board of outfitters he has to adhere to that.

PleaseDear · May 3, 2007

I got in a jam a few years back on a late elk hunt.

I got my elk off the mountain and out to about the 1 mile to go mark and broke thru the ice crossing a frozen creek....I got myself and my elk meat ect.. out of the creek and I headed off the mountain to get out of wet--well by then frozen on clothes...back to the motel and warmth and safety...

I went to the FS office the next morning and called NTO and he came down and took a snowmobile in to get my elk...

He charged me $100.00 that is it... basically for his fuel and lunch.

I can't have an oppinion that would relate to something negative after that....

Robb

manny15 · May 4, 2007

>I got in a jam a
>few years back on a
>late elk hunt.
>
>I got my elk off the
>mountain and out to about
>the 1 mile to go
>mark and broke thru the
>ice crossing a frozen creek....I
>got myself and my elk
>meat ect.. out of the
>creek and I headed off
>the mountain to get out
>of wet--well by then frozen
>on clothes...back to the motel
>and warmth and safety...
>
>I went to the FS office
>the next morning and called
>NTO and he came down
>and took a snowmobile in
>to get my elk...
>
>He charged me $100.00 that is
>it... basically for his fuel
>and lunch.
>
>I can't have an oppinion that
>would relate to something negative
>after that....
>
>Robb

who you talkin about, Kim or nontyp...?

Muleyslyr · May 4, 2007

muleymaster.....you tellin' me that all $6500 went to his landowners? I understand he has to pay them, but to not get ANY of his money back....that's flat out wrong. You figure a first class, high dollar operation like theirs they could've come up with some sort of agreement. All I could say was he shouldn't have paid in full before the hunt.

JFWRC · May 4, 2007

I'd of worked something out. I have to pay ranchers as well. Its part of the business. There are cancellation hunt folks out there looking for this situation. I try to make the best of it. Sometimes you have to eat it. Its hard but you sure feel alot better when your head hits the pillow.

JRABQ · May 5, 2007

I hope you're not talking about this "outfit".

http://www.gallupindependent.com/2007/march/032607mm_outfittersntcd.html

Part of the story:

GRANTS ? The sentencing phase of the case against hunting outfitter, Adrian Romero, will be April 13, in 13th District Judicial Court.

Among the multiple counts against them that were charged in the original indictment was racketeering. It is alleged that on or about Jan. 1, 2002 to Dec. 31, 2004, Romero and his wife operated a hunting outfitting company called Non-Typical Outfitters and that they engaged in a pattern of racketeering with the intent of accomplishing multiple unlawful acts including but not limited to forgery, fraud, embezzlement and tax evasion.

Non-Typical Outfitters was a company that did business in five states, including the state of New Mexico, and records show that the company had customers from 27 other states and at least one foreign company, South Africa. The price for a hunt varied from $2,500 to up to $6,000 per hunter.

Romero pleaded guilty to seven of the charges and could receive up to 22 years in prison. Mrs. Romero pleaded guilty to 13 of the counts and received probation for five years along with the proviso that she not engage in the outfitting business and that she and her husband will have to make restitution. Any violation of her plea agreement could land her in prison. They pled out in the fall of 2006.

ridgerunner · May 5, 2007

Different outfitter, this one that is being talked about is in WY. That sounds like a bad one though.

bogey · May 5, 2007

I hunted with the previous owner, Gregg Fisher of Dead Man Creek Outfitters. I love the area, it is rugged beautiful mountains, but if you are in shape nothing to be afraid of. I don't have any input on Non-Typ, I have only had one email with them. Greg screwed us over big time when a argument started between them and the Box Y. Long story and not relevant here. I love the area, they do shoot some huge deer in the area, and the camp was all I need. At least one of the guides is still with Non-Typ and he was a great guy that I would love to hunt with again. So I may consider a hunt with Non-Typ. as long as the previous owner has nothing to do with them.

muleycrazy · May 5, 2007

Robb Wiley bought Deadman Creek outfitters from Gregg Fischer last year. Robb is also the owner of Non-Typical outfitters. He hunts hard and long & they do they kill some great bucks.