440 Bull hits the ground!

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Don't know all the info just wanted to share this pig of a bull!
Congrats to the hunter and all involved!
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"Gone huntin"
 
That's huge, Wonder what state it was taken in.

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I can't believe they waited so late in the season...


"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
I heard it was the AZ governor's tag. I received the picture on my phone about 10 minutes ago. That thing is amazing!!
 
By shooting a bull this early wouldn't this big bugger have grown a few inches more or are they pretty well done by this time of year?

BTW that is one big stinky!!

"Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway."
 
The tag ends in a week, this was last years tag. Waiting any past this is kind of risky.
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-02-12 AT 11:56AM (MST)[p]WOW! I'd love to see that thing rubbed off!
Archery? Rife? Anyone know the story without slinging sh!t on MB?


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That's just a pig of a bull!! From what I've heard is Starr Guide Service found the bull and sold the info to Mossback to help hunt the bull.
 
Why that is the very same bull Stinkystomper posted this very afternoon labeled "pics of a candidate shooter". And is that a fence in the background in Stinkystomper's post?
 
Just to clear the mud Don.

MB did not pay Eric a dime. The hunter would of done that. Mossback worked with Doug Starr and a couple of his guides to take this bull. The hunter was chasing several other bulls that were amazing bulls and it did not work out about 10 days prior. In the meantime Doug and his team (Eric) had located this bull, but it was put on a backburner for a while while focus was on 2 other crazy big bulls. The hunter then left to take care of business and returned with a few days left to fill his tag. When the hunter returned, he decided to put some effort on this bull as he had limited time remaining. Several days were spent glassing trying to find him, but he just wasnt showing up. The bull that he ended up killing was relocated by Jay and the chase was on and fortunately it worked out for everyone. Doug is a top notch guy as is his team. We had a great time working together to put an end to this great hunt. Friendshiops were made and I am sure we will continue to work together. This truly was a team effort and I can say that no one involved ever had this bull at 440", including Eric, Doug, MB, and hunter! Had we known that I think there would of been a little more focus on him earlier! I think the high score on him after reviewing lots of video of the bull up until the kill was 410"! Heck I saw him at 30 yards and never ever would of guessed him that big. Funny thing is, the day he shot that bull, he had "options" on two other 400" bulls that were being looked at. Great job by all involved.
On a side note, this is just the start of an amazing year in AZ when it comes to big bulls... Good luck to all those with tags.
 
>That guy bought a VERY nice
>bull .

^This is what I was thinking.

That ain't a camel toe, that's a moose knuckle!
 
Hi Don

Im not going to say who got paid what, I don't think that is anyones business. I know you know Eric good enough you can call and ask him instead of trying to get the answer on a public internet forum. If Eric wants to tell everyone I'm sure he can but thats up to him, same with everyone else involved. Its really no ones business in my opinion. Like you said, bottom line is the hunter killed a bull that has made it through a lot of hunts, and is one magnificent animal. Thanks
 
The best bull money could buy.JMO.It's not about the journey anymore.It's all about score at any cost.Sad.JMO.
 
it seems like everytime i find a shooter animal hes shot within weeks of discovery. i do think its funny however that noone on mm even put this bull at 400 and here he is coming in at 440. guess i will just keep hoping that one day the stars will align for my 400" bull.
 
Mine too nontypical! I just can't see any satisfaction of getting an animal using those methods! I would imagine if the guy giot it on that tag that he'll have enough money to throw around to a few of the key people who found and LED him to it!
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-03-12 AT 12:59PM (MST)[p]First of all (from what I understand), this bull was shot (with a rifle) on public land in Arizona (NO "high fence"), in the last week or two on this past year's Az."Governor's Tag" (which helped raise TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars that goes right back on the ground here in Arizona).

It sure would be nice for everyone to be able to admire the majesty of a fantastic animal, without having to endure the time-worn comments that sidetrack us from enjoying that creature's existence.

Just think, this bull's genes are roaming around out there for future hunts to come --- sweet ...


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"Every man dies --- not every man really lives."
 
Most of us love the story of the underdog. If a young kid shot this same elk with his grandpa's lever action 94 while hunting with his dad on public land during a break from school then would be a fantastic story.

Is still a wonderful animal and an amazing accomplishment even with a dozen folks helping out and $10,000s are being spent. The story is just not as heart-warming and not as easy to relate for many of us.

Congrats on the animal and hope the experience is a rewarding one which the hunter will cherish as an accomplishment.
 
"Yes, there were a number of folks out there looking in many different units for a bull like this. That is the nature of the game when and if you either win that Super Raffle tag or buy the Auction tag. You can hunt in any of a number of units and you got to look in all of them"

Yep, there is no doubt that it's a gorgeous bull, but it ain't the name of the game in my book! The guy may have been all over the state looking on his own, but the fact is that someone else found that bull and then others found him again based on that finding and led the guy with the tag to the shooting. If shooting a big one like that lights their fire and it's legal is fine, but not the way hunting was intended IMHO.
 
Don't know any of these guys. I like everyone else looked at the pics, it is a GREAT BULL, but it is Aug., at some point does an animal get a break? Yeah, governors tag, blah, blah, blah, but really you need a WHOLE YEAR?

Plus I had to laugh at how MB, Starr, Eric or whoever spent hundreds of hours on elk, oh yeah and the hunter was there some too. I guess that beats the usual phone call and fly in, but really, good for the hunter for being there some, he is obviously the alpha male!!


When they came for the road hunters I was not one so I said nothing. When they came for the oppurtunists I was not one so I said nothing. When they came for the public land hunters I was not one so I said nothing. When they came for me there was no one left to say anything!
 
The hunter spent a hole lot of money for Az wildlife. I would also think he puts in for a lot of tags in a lot of States. I thank him for buying this tag. The guides that helped on this hunt did a great job. I also think is awesome they can make a living doing what they love.
 
What's up with all the jeolousy? If i won a supper raffle tag for elk, i would call all my good friends who happen to be the best outfitters in the state along with 20 other friends who are just as good of hunters as the outfitters to come up and help me. I would bet my bottom dollar that 99.9% of every one else on here would call as many friends they had to come up and help. What's the diff if you have a bunch of friends come up and help vs. this hunter hiring a guide. The answer is there is no diff other than he had to pay guides wages. Also over my many years of guiding i have witnessed even the most seasoned hunter including myself choke hard at an opp. to harvest an animal of that class no matter what the species. I think the hunter should be congratulated for keeping his composure when it mattered and for shooting straight. Everyone on here knows that if one of their friends was up helping them look for a raffle bull or an early rifle drawn tag bull, that they would lock the hubs and floor it to the bull their buddy just found. On top of that we (everyone on here) would be proud of the bull we just shot with our buddies help. End of story and anything else is just jeolousy. Congrats to the guides for spending 60 days in the field. Congrats to the guides for waking up every morning and glassing, and for beating the hell out of their trucks and gear, and last but not least for running their bodies into the ground for such a magnificent bull. MY HATS OFF TO THE HUNTER FIRST AND THEN THE GUIDES.
 
Thankfully I don't know anybody that would stoop to the level of paying a bounty or partake in the equally disgusting practice of bounty hunting.

Congrats to the Game Dept for raising money for their projects. These auction tags do a great job in that regard.
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-04-12 AT 09:21AM (MST)[p]i agree 100% with jealousy. i have first hand seen utah hunting ethics. i read first hand on this site every single year of folks asking for and receiving help. they go out to the dutton or san juan and take every single friend they can talk into it. they put spotters on every hill and when they kill a bull its diy? and they have the nerve to brag about it as such. now if another guy does the same and he happens to have paid for a tag now his bull is meaningless and he is wothless? it pisses me off personally. i personally went diy for elk 10 years straight. I bought landowner vouchers and hunted on my own on public lands. i had some close encounters with big bulls but it never happened. i have since stepped it up. i now spend lots of money in the pursuit of a 400" bull. 20 years ive been at it now and i still have nothing close to a 400" bull. these guys on here seem to think if you throw enough money at your dream its suddenly easy and is no longer a challenge. i can personally tell each and everyone of you this line of thinking is BS. ive thrown away tons of money and have yet to have a shot at a 400" bull. you add it up. 20 years in the best spots. nm gila tags, utah tags in dutton, san juan, and a few others, rez tags and some local tags for 400" bulls ive personally watched all year. all of this and i still dream of one day. however if i do get my 400 it wont count because i have money. whats the issue is a bunch of people who wish they could hunt as much as some of us do and throwing little jabs is all they can do. thats fine keep throwing thise jabs and those of us who can will keep on hunting.
 
Sad, sad, sad when people say that those of us that would hunt on their own and not pay thousands just to score big inches of horn are jealous of these rich guys. Taking throngs of people to help on a hunt, regardless of whether they are opaid or not, IMHO isn't what hunting is all about. It's a damn shame that this noble sport has been turned into a money making industry for those who have the most to try and score big horns no matter what it takes.
 
I looked up the definition of jealousy from 3 diff. sources and wanted to see if the people on here who seem to be jealous to a point that seems unbecoming might see how they look. Here goes nothin: 1)jealous- resentment against a rival, a person enjoying success or advantage,ect , or against anothers success or advantage 2)mental uneasiness from suspicion or fear of rivalry 3)a jealous feeling, disposition, state or mood 4)a feeling of jealous envy 5)a feeling of grudging admiration and desire to have something that is possessed by another (hunter) 6)feeling resentment against someone because of that persons rivalry, success or advantage 7) feeling resentment because of anothers success ,advantage,ect 8)resentful (of) or vindictive(towards),ESPECIALLY THRU ENVY. I was going to look up the definition of envy but figured that people could figure out how they were acting by just reading the def. of jealous. For all the guys out there that have never had a friend or friends come up and help on their hunt, and have always done their hunts by themselves completely and totally alone, i have a chrome plated plastic trophy for you with the inscription (your the man) at the base of it for you. I used to think i deserved one of these trophies myself until i woke up and saw what a jealous a$$ i had become. Also make sure that when some on here are doing their high and mighty thing, and beating their chest's with their hands while screaming the tarzan song from atop a mountain in the wilderness, that if you did have a friend or friends ever help you on a hunt in anyway shape or form and you payed for your friends gas or lunch, that you were paying a form of a guides wage for return for the help received.
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-04-12 AT 10:41AM (MST)[p]IMHO that's a lot of baloney, as we aren't talking about two or three buddies getting together for a hunt to share gas and companionship, maybe making a camp and then going their own way to hunt and meeting for lunch, supper, to help pack out an animal, etc. This thread is discussing a bunch of paid people trying to help ONE guy score bigtime so he can be best on the block!
 
Topgun relax dude, everything is ok, and my comments are very generalized and not directed to any one person specifically. I'm just trying to understand what is the difference between having friends and family help on a tag and this guy hiring a guide. Maybe he doesnt have a bunch of friends that hunt. Maybe his dad didnt take him hunting like yours and mine did when we were young. I could maybe a bunch of scenarios that could lead to a fellow hunter hiring a guide. If i ever get lucky enough to go to alaska some day, you can bet i will hire a guide. Then when i post the pics everyone can jump me with their jealousy for the awesome animals i would harvest cause i hired a guide. WHEN DOES THE MADNESS STOP WITH REGARDS TO JEALOUSY , AND WHO DEFINES WHO HUNTED HARDER OR WHO HAD IT EASIER THAN THE NEXT. Top gun, if i won the super raffle tag and called friends of mine that happen to be outfitters and they were willing to help on the hunt for free, but would have normally charged 20,000 to someone else, would i be subject to jealous rants like this dude is receiving. Remember they are only friends in my scenario and no money would be exchanged. Just a couple of friends hunting together???? Also i dont see where the guy that killed this bull came on and said that he was now super man because he killed a big bull. I dont see any self proclaimed arrogance from the hunter in any way shape or form, do you, and if so please bring it to my attention so i can change my mind on the jealousy thing. I am thankful that they harvested this bull, and the dude was nice enough to share the pics with me and all of us. I am jealous though that i didnt win the supper raffle tag, and have my own chance at a bull like this 440, with friends and family watching from afar from every glassing point for miles while i silently poked a hole in the bull with my trusty hoyt. Then i would cherish the moment as friends filtered in from afar to see the slain beast AS HE LAY ON THE GROUND and we would all celebrate at the accomplishment THAT WE WERE ALL JUST A PART OF. Hunting has been a group effort for forever, and that group effort could be anything from guys coming back from an all day hunt by themselves, and cooking a meal together, all the way to 4 friends deciding to help one guy on a morning glass for a specific buck. To each his own.
 
Friends helping on the hunt is different than employees finding your elk. If I had that much money invested in a tag I'd probably do the same thing.... Which one is better? That's up to the individual, not you. Its a smoker of a bull I would sure as he'll be proud of!


I was stirring the pot earlier, enough with the pm's! Holy crap take a joke! Lol....


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LAST EDITED ON Aug-04-12 AT 02:13PM (MST)[p]couesmagnet---Hiring an outfitter to get you into an area because you don't have the equipment and then going with his guide is one thing. Hiring an outfitter for exorbitant sums of money so that he can send out a few squads of people for lengthy periods of time to find THE animal and then possibly pay somebody 20 grand for finding that BIG one to seal the deal is not hunting in my mind. If you have no problem with it, then we will agree to disagee, but please don't say that a bunch of us are jealous of the guy for taking that great animal. Cripes, I've got enough money saved that I could purchase one of those tags if I wanted to, but it just will not happen because I don't buy my animals!
 
Wasnt trying to argue either top gun , just thought a little more positiveness by all would be nice for a change. I know i'm not right all the time, just wanted to throw out a diff. way to look at it with a positive spin. I wish the best for everyone in the field this year from the private land guided guys to the hard core diy guys. i happen to be as hard core of a diy guy as they get and always find my own game and spend countless days in the field finding others trophies as well each year, and i love it all from top to bottom and to each his own.
 
I hear ya! I'm pretty much the same way and really enjoy helping others. In fact, this season I'm hosting travishunter3006 and his wife for a few days on a deer hunt out in Region M if they can work their vacation times out. That's part of the fun being a member on a great site like this.
 
MossBack is the real deal when it comes to harvesting freaking Pig's!! for their clients....

Some day--some way...me and NUNYA are gonna chase my D-Ram!--pick a state young fella---I am in for all of them! haha

I just really like those MossBack guides---and Doyle has always been a Stand-Up type guy to me.

My Dad--82 years old this year and he has never harvested a 6x6 Bull Elk.....

Go figure who offered him and me a chance for him to finally get his 6x6 Bull........??----General Rifle Elk Tag to boot....

No Fee---no nothing but show up----


Only in America Boys----

Robb
 
hey justr. i try to keep track of my death threats. i think i have well over 50 so far. quit apologizing you looser that not how you stir the pot properly. and you are right dear. doyle is a great guy. im prolly looking at employing that man in arizona for a year next year if certain events transpire next month and i dont get my 400 this year.
 
Beautiful Bull!

Doyle and the boys sure know how to get it done!

Congrats to the hunter.

By the way, is this the guy that is always on "Jim Shockey's The Professionals"?

Just wondering. That is one of my favorite shows and these guys do some amazing things to get their animals. Just check out the latest episodes where they are hunting sheep in Nepal. Crazy, crazy, crazy! I can't believe the situations they were putting themselves in to make it happen.

Of course, for most of us, a hunt like that is out of the question, but it sure is fun to watch and those guys make an excellent hunting show.

Having the money sure helps in making some dreams come true and we each have different dreams.

Not my style but I have to admit I don't turn down help when I get it. I just can't afford to pay for it :)


"The problem with quotes on Internet Forums is that it is often difficult to verify their authenticity." - Abraham Lincoln
 
CONGRADS to both the hunter and guides on taking a AWESOME bull...WTG...from what i have seen mossback guides as a whole are the real deal....one of them gave me some GOOD info for the asking last year on my ram hunt...i did not know he was a guide until i saw his name and pic on there website..

IMHO anybody who questions the hunter or guide in this circumstance is just jealous children

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It's really too bad the bull was taken on such a dry year. With the 27% antler reduction this year, he could have scored 558 Gross.

Oh well, he was going to die anyway. It's just too dry this year.

Ask Bess, he knows first hand.

lol! :)
 
i know the unit this bull was killed in. i think its funny how a guide wont even tell anyone which unit the big ones are coming from. dont you guys think its funny how every time a bull is killed they pick the already known hotspots as the place they found their bull? anyways let me just be the first to say it wasnt unit 9 or 10. maybe if im being nice later in the year i wont give your secret away. just explain to me why i shoulndt say the unit this guy came from? is it cuz u want ur other gov tag holder to hunt the same area? im really curious why. just irritates the hell outa me when people lie. and dont say i dont know what im talking about guys. i obviously have pics of that bull and know the area he was in. did u guys also get access to that private land he was by to. its a big ranch that normally doesnt allow hunting and right now theres a couple 400" bulls piled up in there.
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-13-12 AT 07:54AM (MST)[p]That's a great bull and I don't have a problem with the hunt as it went down. Congratulations to the hunter and the guides!

My problem is that it's these kinds of hunts that are driving the rules and regulations that pertain to all of us, at least here in Utah! With reduced tag numbers, higher buck to doe ratios, older class bull objectives, higher tag prices, smaller units, reduced numbers in group applications, unreasonably high percentages of Convention and Conservation tags, and ongoing talk of shorter seasons and antler restrictions, the traditional family hunting camps and DIY hunters are systematically being driven out of existence. And it's those who's living depends on these big money trophy hunts that are the ones able and willing to attend the meetings and make the contacts necessary to lobby the rule-makers to their way of thinking. The vast majority of hunters don't put hunting so high on their priority list and thus don't have the time and/or drive to push their low key hunting agenda. Fortunately, there are those, even some of the heavy-hitters, who have seen this trend for what it is and are willing to say enough already! The upcoming Utah Wildlife Board meeting will show that.
 
I agree with alot of you. I have been very fortunate to be good friends with a guy since we were kids that has done very well for himself. He now owns several ranches that he purchased to hunt on. One of these ranches has nice elk on it and I have been able to bow elk hunt with him the last couple of years. But since I don't hunt public land and don't have to pack my bull out 5 miles, it does not count with alot of you. Pure BS!

I dare say that if you public land snob's were in my shoes, you would hunt on private land as well.
 
>Beautiful Bull!
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>Doyle and the boys sure know
>how to get it done!
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>Congrats to the hunter.
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>By the way, is this the
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YES.
 
IVANAB its called jealousy. Utah is by far the worst state I've seen when it comes to jealousy. In addition its the worst state when it comes to hunter ethics. those guys in Utah honest to god take about 15 to 20 friends per tag they draw. The results are a unit whith more spooked animals than any other unit in the wester US. What do they do when they see all these people roaming all over the unit? They blame mossback who only puts in a guide and spotter per hunter. I personally pulled out of that state years ago and I have no intention of returning. The DIY guys in my opinion with all their quads, shed hunting, overscouting etc have pressured the elk to the point that the hunting has turned into what it is. What you do is ignore the few morons you find on here whith daddy issues larger than lindzy lohan's and realize most people that are normal (unlike myself) don't even post. That majority agrees with you and I and love hearing our stories. However that average joe making $35,000/year who just cant afford that tag thinks he has to completely and totally hate everyone else who can afford that tag because we created a better hand in life for ourselves. You just blow off these jealous guys for the simple fact that they have no experience to draw from when judging guys like us who have experienced both sides of the fence. Its just simple lack of knowledge on their part is all.
 
Stinky please shut up :) I am going in at 100% draw odds in that unit for elk next year, tired of waiting! And yes it's an amazing unit for huge bulls just extremely hard to find them!

Congrats to the hunter! Still a few years of saving left before I buy that tag! And I will get it! Haha


I just call em as I see em!
 
Ivanab---I doubt seriously that there are very many people on this site that would have much of problem of you hunting on a ranch like you are. Furthermore, if I read one more friggin post from SS mentioning jealousy on people's part because he came out of the ghetto, trailer park, or whereever he came from, to make something of himself, I think I'm gonna puke!!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-13-12 AT 02:51PM (MST)[p]It won't be the anti's who bring the sport of hunting to its knees, but instead it will be pure jealousy that will in time shread the very fabric of the bond we as hunters have had together for hundreds of years. In the late 80's into the 90's, if a dude posted a pic of a dandy bull such as the 440, everyone would have posted congrats and thanks for the privilege to even see the pics. Now a days, almost every good animal posted initially inspires thoughts of envy and jealousy from nearly all. What happened to our sport in just the last decade to cause such a monumental shift in us hunters from a attitude based in fun and togetherness in our pursuit of critters to straight bashing and negativity. I wish everyone would just get along for God's sake. Why is there such a need for people to pick apart another's accomplishment? It's almost to be expected these days when someone kills a monster, What's up with that? It's hard not to blame obama(lol), does anyone else know the cause for all the negativity? I have managed to stack up quite a mound of trophies on my own from public land and from drawn tags over the years, and i'm not in the least bit jealous of this hunters 440 bull. I'm not jumping on here every chance i get to in some way demean this guys 440. The things i have to go thru to find even a 380 gross bull on public land doesnt make me jump on the site to trash the guys 440 cause i'm jealous. IT WILL NEVER END WILL IT, AND MARK MY WORDS IT WILL BE THE LARGEST CAUSE OF THE DEMISE OF OUR SPORT OF HUNTING. Now i know why a lot of the hardest core guys in hunting are not members of internet sites, cause all they hear are 5th graders arguing down the hall over who has a bigger sandwich for lunch when they read these posts. Good luck to all this year in the field, and try to have fun and just worry about your own hunt instead of your neighbors hunt. I promise if you worry about your own hunt and spend even half the negative energy generated trying to scout for critters on your own tags, the scores on your own animals will go up by 10 percent almost immediately. Go get um this year in the field, and this was just a rant that was nothing but food for thought.
 
I don't agree with you at all that jealousy is involved with it, whether it be the tag or the rich guy that got it. It's the fact that those tags are not available to the common person that hunting was built on in this country and who still pays the vast majority of monies that run the state G&F Departments. Hey, it's a great bull and no posts that I've reead has said anything different. There are just a lot of us that don't agree with hiring or having a herd of spotters looking for that one animal so a guy or the people that found it can claim fame and/or make lots of money like the latter. In this case that tag was good for a whole friggin year, which many also don't agree with, but that doesn't automatically make us jealous. The statement being made sounds like it's blaming all the common guys that are ruining it because of jealousy. I believe it's just the opposite in that money and wealth are ruining it and if it continues like it is going, we'll end up like Europe with the common, middle class folks being shut entirely out of the sport IMHO.
 
Cousemagnet it's no different than the society we live in anymore. Everyone feels like they "deserve" the same as everyone else but most aren't willing to put forth the effort and sacrifices it takes to be on top. The hunting community always sounds like a bunch of cry baby democrats saying how unfair it is. It is all jealousy and bruised egos around here. Next thing you know all these guys will be crying for a score cap so we'll all harvest the same size bulls. If its bigger than the cap just saw some off and give to the lowly bunch that won't put forth the effort. Lol


I just call em as I see em!
 
It's not the money, it's how these guys go about doing this then call it hunting. If I had that tag I would feel awhole lot better killing a world class bull on my own than I would if I hired all those guys to do it for me. Helll he had a year to find one. If a guy can't find a shooter in AZ, any unit, 365 days to do it he better save his money. And they call this hunting ???? Call it something but don't call it hunting...plain and simple !!
 
couesmagnet, you are definitely a better man than I am. You can definitely put your views into perspective in a very attractive and respectful way I have to applaud you for that and I agree with you 100%. hornhunter, shoot me a pm of which unit that bull came from and I will shoot you a pm with which unit you should be putting in for. I won't just blurt out what those mossback guys found as I understand I just wish they would say they'd rather not say which unit he came from for obvious reasons.

Now on another note I must say coues that you are wasting your breathe. Do you ever take a lead from me? you should pay attention how you talk to these 5th graders. Play on their jealousy side or their success envy side and watch their uproar. Their jealousy creates so much hate that they cant even see the obvious slanted hand they are playing with. I just love hittin these idiots with a cattle prod.

Did I mention I make more in one month than most of you make in 60 years of wages?????? Damn it sucks to be you guys hahahahahahaha! sorry coues and hornhunter that wasn't pointed at you but then again you probably have the intelligence to actually read that comment for what it was.
 
Nice Bull and all everyone can B!tch about is they didn't get it.
Sorry Bunch of bottom feeler/crawlers.

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
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Well if its not about the money then why don't i ever see anyone bitchin when someone draws a late kiabab tag and takes like 15 friends to help?
I was up there 3 years ago with my best friend hunting and it was laughable at the amount of "friends" that were up there! The radios on scan were priceless! People giving locations to big bucks everywhere. Spotters on every high spot you could find! But thats different to you guys somehow right??? hahaha

Who really cares if some dorky millionaire has to buy his "friends". Its no different.

I bet all you "real" hunters are chipping your flint arrowheads as I type!!! lol


I just call em as I see em!
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-13-12 AT 08:27PM (MST)[p]I just wanted to be clear that I don't think I'm better than anyone on here and when I referenced 5th graders it wasn't meant as a put down but rather an analogy to the way I see kids act.I can think of several times I have acted like a 5th grader with respect to hunting in the past. Stinky I'm happy that you make lots of money and that's cool. There was a time for a little over a year I was making 80000 a month of so in 2005 in the real estate market and since then I've lost it all and probably deserved it for going all in to many times. I love hearing a success story and that someone is doing well wether it's hunting or business. It gives me something to aspire to again.Thats the beauty of this country is that a guy with enough luck and hard work can get to the top and buy cool things like gov tags or other novelty items. Another cool thing about this country is that a guy can make it then lose it and then make it back again. I know guys that have gone thru this cycle more than once and are once again making it. What a beautiful thing that people at least have a chance to make it in this country. While I'm in the have not group I just keep chugging along having fun in the woods drawing tags in marginal areas and killing dandy bucks and bulls. Even though I don't have the opportunity that some people have, it doesn't do any good to complain about it or be jealous of others that have it. I just wish we all could get over the have not syndrome and rejoice with the fellas that have it knowing full well that we have nots could wake up tomorow and hit it big in something. It happens every day in business and applies to the hunting world. There is plenty of opportunity out there on public land and with enough hard work and time believe it or not upper end triphies can still be readily found. Instead of complaining about the guys that have it easy , I just go out and pound the field harder to find quality stuff. It can be done but I wish I had the opportunity that some of the hunters enjoy on a yearly basis. I guess I better pray some more and hope opportunity comes my way once again in life.
 
So if I'm not impressed by a guy who paid a bunch of money to shoot a big bull then I am a white trash, bottome feeder is just insanely jealous that he has money and I don't. Ha ha wow. Gotta love the internet. Keep it up stinkystomper and company, this jealous, penniless, white trash is just loving it.
 
BOTTOM FEEDERS are guys who can't say Nice bull and move on,(BIG HINT) But have to B!tch about what the guy paid for his tag or how many guys was on the hunt or that he didn't scout it for 12 days and nights.
Remember what your Mom use to say if you can say anything nice DON'T say a thing.
For the PM guys,I got tried of turning the other cheek a long time ago.
Do you call riding in a high rack in Mexico road hunting or just being able to see more then 5 ft into the thick stuff. WHAT and they shoot from the truck too. Lordy those are road hunting SOB's
NOT EVERYONE hunts the same as you or me, But I could care less how they get it done, I care How I get it done. So if this fit you like a "T" then so be it.

Just quit whinning about how others get it done. Worry about how you will be getting it done.

Now ya'll have a nice season.

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
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I like Corey Knowton.

I think the guy is the real-deal and he knows when to employ some help.

If you're condemning what he's doing then you'd have to also condemn every guided or aided hunt of any kind.

And anyway.....there is no such thing as a true DIY. Everybody gets help from somewhere. It's just a phrase coined by those who wish to think they possess some superior trait.

Maybe Lewis and Clark were DIY guys but everyone who followed used their information for travel etc. But wait..... Lewis and Clark used Native scouts so I guess they were imposters too.

We certainly fight over some petty things guys!
Zeke
 
>
>And anyway.....there is no such thing
>as a true DIY. Everybody
>gets help from somewhere. It's
>just a phrase coined by
>those who wish to think
>they possess some superior trait.
>
>
>Maybe Lewis and Clark were DIY
>guys but everyone who followed
>used their information for travel
>etc. But wait..... Lewis and
>Clark used Native scouts so
>I guess they were imposters
>too.
>
>We certainly fight over some petty
>things guys!
>Zeke


+1
 
You can tell which guys have big bank rolls and which ones dont just by reading these comments. Money money money money, MONEY!
Justin
 

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