Tallest Rack
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Here's a link to my tallest buck killed in 1999 on a HCB hunt. 25" tall. Cedarhttp://www.monstermuleys.com/photos/PhotosID2/294.html
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Wow, awesome buck Cedar. What did it end up scoring?
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Not sure how you guys are measuring. We don't measure height because it might be tough to tell where to start. We've taken two bucks with 21 and 4/8 inch G-2's. Both bucks grossed over 190. I have pics but I'm too dumb to post them.
Anyway, that buck you got is a real stud. Congrats!
Anyway, that buck you got is a real stud. Congrats!
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I agree NECALI, I'll take a 'tall' buck over a 'wide' buck anyday. Give me a 25" wide buck with 25" high antlers over a 30" wide buck with 15" high antlers. Course, I prefer typicals over non-typicals as well. Give me a 'tall' buck with deep forks and I'll deflate him with an arrow.
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Sorry about the ugly mug with the picture!
This is the tallest I have taken in 2005, about 25". Mostly because his backs went straight up and th bases came up out of his skull, almost lik a whitetail. Notice the G-1's come straight up the base like a spike buck.
FYI, Utah on public land.
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Thanks for the comments guys. I honestly don't have any idea what the score is on this buck. I measured the height by turning the rack upside down with the antler tips on the floor and mesured up to the skull plate. The G2s are 19". By the way I have not killed another buck since then. Building preference points sucks. Cedar
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Elmer, I like your buck. That is what I am talking about. He may not score super high, but he looks sweet.
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Great bucks guys, I assume most people measure from the top of the skull then straight up.
I got this buck in 05' and he was just over 24" tall when I got him. Just measured him on the wall and now he is just over 23". They tend to shrink some in the velvet.
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I got this buck in 05' and he was just over 24" tall when I got him. Just measured him on the wall and now he is just over 23". They tend to shrink some in the velvet.
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This got me thinking about an old rack I have been hauling around for some time. Twenty years ago I was at a cabin that was in an old camp that had been bought up and they were getting ready to dozer down this one old cabin. Inside above the fireplace was this rack and I ask if I could take it since the building was about to be gone. Anyway, I got the rack and have no idea of it's history but it's height is what really grabbed me. After reading this post I measured the height and it is 26.5". The cabin was probably 60 years old when I took it so who knows how old it is.
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My attraction to tall racks probably stems from my first buck I killed. He was 20" wide and 26" high, I took him at 15 yards with a recurve at 16. I have been biased towards tall racks ever since. Maybe therapy could cure me and make me obsessed with 30" bucks, who knows? Is there help for me?
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I Think there is alot of guys measuring the whole outside cuve of the horn all the way to the top of the back forks. IF u are talking stight up length that a whole differnt length. The tallest buck i have ever seen was 26 inches stight up and it looked almost freaky. The largest i have ever seen killed in the field is 24 inches and that is insane tall. That one jds posted is a crazy tall buck. When guys start talking 25 inches tall or better 99.9% of them are not measuring stight up. My largest is 22 inches stight up and he is a big buck. The height ? always will cause guys to doubt the #s because alot of guys just pull the tape many ways.(and some the fisrt 2 inches seem to always be missing on there tape measures).lol
Put a yardstick across the tallest tine tips of the rack(typically the G-2's) and measure straight up from the top of the skull between the horns across thin air(not along tines).
The tallest that I know of is the Earl Markley buck from Colorado and the Milton Hunt buck from Utah. The Markely buck was 27 and change tall and has well over a 220 main frame. The Hunt buck is just about the same.
If there are any taller, don't tell me about the pain, show me the baby. (That means provide a picture for those of you who dropped out of school early to become governor's tag deer guides.)
24 inch tall bucks are exceptional and like Aaron said 25" plus bucks are freaks.
The tallest that I know of is the Earl Markley buck from Colorado and the Milton Hunt buck from Utah. The Markely buck was 27 and change tall and has well over a 220 main frame. The Hunt buck is just about the same.
If there are any taller, don't tell me about the pain, show me the baby. (That means provide a picture for those of you who dropped out of school early to become governor's tag deer guides.)
24 inch tall bucks are exceptional and like Aaron said 25" plus bucks are freaks.
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I must revise my previous post to 24" going through thin air rather than 26.5" following beam. I must of missed this method of measurement in the B&C charts.
It's comments like Buckspy's that keep many people from showing or talking about what they have seen or have. I have seen afew bucks over 28inches tall, one was at Maniac's place. You guys ran him off this website with all the stupid comments. I guess thats allright now that he got caught poaching, The guy still had an amazing collection of antlers. I personally have killed at least 4 bucks over 26 tall and one over 28 and dont care if all you know it alls believe me or not. And no I aint going to post them so all you so called experts can say I poached them or whatever.
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Why would anyone say you poached them, got a guilty conchence.
I didnt see anything wrong with buckspys post, it seemed sarcastic to me, but if you dont feel you can share with everyone else then I guess thats your choice. But in all honesty if you have a buck thats 28" tall I would love to see it.
PS, I havent seen anyone say to anyone else that they poached anything on this tread so why bring it up.
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I didnt see anything wrong with buckspys post, it seemed sarcastic to me, but if you dont feel you can share with everyone else then I guess thats your choice. But in all honesty if you have a buck thats 28" tall I would love to see it.
PS, I havent seen anyone say to anyone else that they poached anything on this tread so why bring it up.
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What the hell is wrong with BuckSpy's reply????
I think what he has said in this post and another a while back is that the only correct way to measure heighth is from top of skull straight up to the tips of the antlers.Following the curve of the antler would me missleading cause of the wide basket type frames.
Oh and the main reason that people get "Ran off" of this sight is because they either have thin skin or are hiding something....maybe both.
I think what he has said in this post and another a while back is that the only correct way to measure heighth is from top of skull straight up to the tips of the antlers.Following the curve of the antler would me missleading cause of the wide basket type frames.
Oh and the main reason that people get "Ran off" of this sight is because they either have thin skin or are hiding something....maybe both.
I also agree with buckspy, there could be a couple ways to make this measurement. Where Im from in eastern Oregon there are several big buck contests using T measurement (greatest spread+height=?) and the height measurement is done as buckspy said. I also would like to see pics because hunting does tend to spawn a little stretching of the truth. I personally have a 34" wide by 23" tall buck that is still by far the largest T measurement buck taken in these parts. And I've only seen a couple taller than this 23 incher. I'll try to scan a pic to download, this will be a challenge.
Thanks, Koyote
Thanks, Koyote
I usually don't have the need to make sh-t up bigmoosie. The guy who sold Maniac a substantial portion of his collection is a friend of mine and was a serious mule deer collector. He used to own the Mundy buck and is very familiar with with many of the biggest and best mule deer ever taken. The buck you are referring to in "Maniac's" collection is most likely the Markley buck from Colorado and is the tallest that we knew about and this was a lengthy discussion we had one day while measuring many of the bucks in his collection.
If there are any taller, don't tell me about the pain, show me the baby. (That means provide a picture for those of you who dropped out of school early to become governor's tag deer guides.)
Get over it "onion skin." Its tongue-in-cheek humor.
If you have that many bucks over 26" inches tall, I applaud you as that is a substantial personnal accomplishment to take that many exceptional bucks. From my own personnal observations on both park and wild, hunted bucks, I feel there about 25-30 bucks over 30"s wide for every buck that would be 25"s plus in actuall rack height. It's not scientific to be sure, it's anecdotal at best.
Of course thats just my opinion. I could be wrong.
If there are any taller, don't tell me about the pain, show me the baby. (That means provide a picture for those of you who dropped out of school early to become governor's tag deer guides.)
Get over it "onion skin." Its tongue-in-cheek humor.
If you have that many bucks over 26" inches tall, I applaud you as that is a substantial personnal accomplishment to take that many exceptional bucks. From my own personnal observations on both park and wild, hunted bucks, I feel there about 25-30 bucks over 30"s wide for every buck that would be 25"s plus in actuall rack height. It's not scientific to be sure, it's anecdotal at best.
Of course thats just my opinion. I could be wrong.
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I agree with 30" wide bucks being more common than 25" high bucks, maybe that is why they appeal so much to me.
I saw a saying on another forum that applies here, "Offense is rarely intended, but often taken." We need to take ourselves less serious if something someone posts 'offends' us. I have had some comments idrected at me that very well may have been intended to offend, but since I know the truth and don't know the one trying or appearing to be trying to offend me, I have yet to be offended on this or any other forum.
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I saw a saying on another forum that applies here, "Offense is rarely intended, but often taken." We need to take ourselves less serious if something someone posts 'offends' us. I have had some comments idrected at me that very well may have been intended to offend, but since I know the truth and don't know the one trying or appearing to be trying to offend me, I have yet to be offended on this or any other forum.
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Having spent a significant portion of the last ten years of my life writing about, photographing, and measuring big mule deer, I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on this one.
How to measure height: from the skull straight up(staying in the center of the rack) to a point even with the highest tine (i.e. put the rack up against a square wall perfectly perpendicular to the axis of the skull)and measuring from the skull to the wall, staying central to the center of the rack.
Buckspy is correct in saying that 27 inches is almost mythical. 27" tall is the equivalent of saying 45 inches wide. People throw out numbers (how many 30" tall bucks have you heard of) but rarely know what goes into those numbers. The longest tine EVER MEASURED ON ANY MULE DEER IN HISTORY is 24-6/8, and only a small handful 23" and up. Add to this a small amount of height from the base to the G-2 and you can see why 25" is really phenomenal.
The tallest rack I've ever seen in person is the Cary Cada buck (p.140 in Idaho's Greatest Mule Deer) and it is only 26" tall, and that includes a 24-1/8" G-2!!!
To reach 26-28", not only must a rack have a G-2 in the low to mid-20s, but also an oddly shaped lower rack that angles up quickly. Not saying a 30-inch tall buck isn't possible, but I have yet to see one.
How to measure height: from the skull straight up(staying in the center of the rack) to a point even with the highest tine (i.e. put the rack up against a square wall perfectly perpendicular to the axis of the skull)and measuring from the skull to the wall, staying central to the center of the rack.
Buckspy is correct in saying that 27 inches is almost mythical. 27" tall is the equivalent of saying 45 inches wide. People throw out numbers (how many 30" tall bucks have you heard of) but rarely know what goes into those numbers. The longest tine EVER MEASURED ON ANY MULE DEER IN HISTORY is 24-6/8, and only a small handful 23" and up. Add to this a small amount of height from the base to the G-2 and you can see why 25" is really phenomenal.
The tallest rack I've ever seen in person is the Cary Cada buck (p.140 in Idaho's Greatest Mule Deer) and it is only 26" tall, and that includes a 24-1/8" G-2!!!
To reach 26-28", not only must a rack have a G-2 in the low to mid-20s, but also an oddly shaped lower rack that angles up quickly. Not saying a 30-inch tall buck isn't possible, but I have yet to see one.
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Nicely said proutdoors! I agree some people on this site need to just relax and take it for what it is. A place we can kill time during the off-season while dreaming of being in the outdoors and sometimes exchanging information or receiving a few tips that may help during the upcoming hunting season. Thanks to all who shared the photo's. Some awesome bucks.
LAST EDITED ON Jun-13-07 AT 10:31AM (MST)[p]There is a photo of the Markley buck I am referring to on this website
www.rainbowsendbb.com
Click on "trophies" on the sidebar.
Its the in the seventh row of photos down, third from the left.
It books as a typical(officially entered as a typical) and a non-typical, has well over a 220+ main frame(one of the largest ever measured) and is the tallest that I know about.
It fits the criteria that idahonative talks about. Huge g-2s and main beams angleing up at a fairly steep angle. This deer must be seen in person to truely appreciate it. Put it this way. It was hanging in the same room as the Mundy buck and I always felt myself looking at the Markley buck just as much. Its flat awesome!
www.rainbowsendbb.com
Click on "trophies" on the sidebar.
Its the in the seventh row of photos down, third from the left.
It books as a typical(officially entered as a typical) and a non-typical, has well over a 220+ main frame(one of the largest ever measured) and is the tallest that I know about.
It fits the criteria that idahonative talks about. Huge g-2s and main beams angleing up at a fairly steep angle. This deer must be seen in person to truely appreciate it. Put it this way. It was hanging in the same room as the Mundy buck and I always felt myself looking at the Markley buck just as much. Its flat awesome!
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That is a very nice buck!
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O.K. I don't and didn't have a problem with any of the comments. Any I made back were in jest and not intended to flame anyone.
It is that lull time to dream of wide tall heavy deep forked muleys prancing by the dozens in the meadows of our minds.
My intent was to share an old rack I saved from the junk pile that always looked really tall to me especially because that G2 isn't forked and it is pencil like in mass. It was not to misrepresent any measurement because I have never known any official means of measuring height.
The "T" measurement sounds like a decent way of doing it and in that spirit the old cabin rack measured 23"
So, along the rack from base to tip 26.5"/ OR with a line from tallest tip drawn out to parallel to a line drawn out from base of antler 24"/OR "T" measurement of 23".
All this in consideration of standing on a five gallon bucket with tape and yardstick. So, if I'm off a few 1/8th either way please forgive.
It is that lull time to dream of wide tall heavy deep forked muleys prancing by the dozens in the meadows of our minds.
My intent was to share an old rack I saved from the junk pile that always looked really tall to me especially because that G2 isn't forked and it is pencil like in mass. It was not to misrepresent any measurement because I have never known any official means of measuring height.
The "T" measurement sounds like a decent way of doing it and in that spirit the old cabin rack measured 23"
So, along the rack from base to tip 26.5"/ OR with a line from tallest tip drawn out to parallel to a line drawn out from base of antler 24"/OR "T" measurement of 23".
All this in consideration of standing on a five gallon bucket with tape and yardstick. So, if I'm off a few 1/8th either way please forgive.
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I've got a pic of a Wyoming buck that I believe is 29" from an outfitter I hunted with in the mid 90's. Let me know who to send it to so it can be posted.
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Here is the buck that I was referring to. I love the look of this buck and other tall bucks.
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Ridge, are you in that pic?
Koyote that is an incredible buck.
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Koyote that is an incredible buck.
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No I wish I was in that pic. That buck was killed the year before I went, what a dandy.
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Using the tallest tip to tip tines as a top line then a vertical to top of the skull measurement a 24" or taller buck is less common then 30" wide buck. Too many factors to decide for sure but any (at least a heavy 3 point or better) 24" tall I'm gooing to give some serious consideration regardless of width. Just my thoughts.
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Ridgerunner. If I'm not mistaken that buck was killed by a client of swift creek outfitters. BJ and Vikki Hill. Is that who you hunted with?
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You are correct, it was taken with Swift Creek Outfitters back when they guided for deer, they just do elk now up out of Jackson.
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Found this pic of a buck I mounted a few years ago not sure how tall but one of the tallest I have seen personally
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the tallest racked buck i have seen went 29 inches tall i have one side to his sheds never found the other definitely awesome
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Here's a tall buck, you just need to use your imagination a little (if I only would have had a real camera).
It's kind of funny, but height will increase your score every time whereas width can only help you to a point.
It's kind of funny, but height will increase your score every time whereas width can only help you to a point.
Here are a few tall bucks that family and friends have taken over the years. The first is a big 6x6 that my dad shot in Montana in the early 80's. Only about 23" wide but very tall with nice long points. The second is a big 7x8 that a family friend shot in Montana about 7 years ago. And the last one is a big one that my brother shot in Montana about 10 years ago. It is only 21" wide but the back points are both over 21" tall. Very nice buck.
