How big is a shooter?

ismith

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Just thought it would be interesting to see how big a buck most people on here would hold out for. Personally I like to look for a buck thats at least 24 wide and a 4x4. Really not a hard and fast rule though because there are some really nice bucks that are narrower, like my fiancee's buck from last year that was only 20 inches wide and gross scored 165.
ismith


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That depends on what I have scouted up before the hunt, it might only be a 22 inch buck if thats all I've seen.

Also it depends on where I'm hunting.



Jake H. MM Member since 1999.
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It all depends on what tag i have in my hand. If i have a good late season tag i will hold out for 180 class or better. Just a run of the mill hunt a good 160 class buck or better, about 24 inches is my goal or better. If i ever draw the strip i might have to bump it up to a 190 or might i even say it a 200 class buck.
 
I use the "I'll know it when I see it" method. If I had to use a number, I'd say 24"+ wide, good mass, 4x4. Of course if I saw a 30" 2pt or a 22" wide massive antlered buck I would shoot as well. I just want a mature buck that has reached or passed his potential. I would hate to shoot a two year old 20", thin antlered 4pt that would have been a great buck in a few years. Does that make any sense?

Andy
 
I've shot many a fork horn and last year on my muzzleloader hunt was the first time I have ever passed on a barely legal buck. I passed up a 30 yard shot on a little 3x3 maybe 12inches or so wide. Never saw another legal buck but had no regrets. If I'm bow hunting I'll take any legal buck in bow range , but am going to try and pass on smaller bucks if rifle or muzzleloader huntin.
 
I use the "Is it big enough for the wall" method. It is also hard to pass up decent bucks, but like my dad told me when I was first starting to hunt you'll never kill a big buck if you keep shooting the little ones. So I then went to 4 point only and ended up talking a 192 gross buck that year. So now I say if it is good enough to mount then it good enough to shoot. However if your stuck on score I would say 170+.
 
The size of the buck I shoot depends on the area I am hunting. If the area is a place that does not have great big buck potential I will just wait and see. Even in poor quality areas I still hold out for at least a 160 gross buck. I would rather shoot a doe for meat than a small buck with a ton of potential. Ron
 
It depends on how much time I can dedicate to hunt that particular season. If I have lots of time to hunt, I hold out for a 25" 4X4 or better. If not much time, I use the "how much meat is in the freezer" rule.
 
I don't see me ever taking another buck under 180 but you never know. I might see a buck that doesn't score much but has a real intresting set of antlers.

Antlerradar
 
I hunt deer for their horns and the meat is a byproduct. I hunt elk for their meat and the horns are a byproduct. There are excepts for both though. Excellent elk unit and I'd give at least the first half of the hunt for trophy huntin. I can't see me applying for a deer unit that doesn't have reasonable trophy potential but a family hunt in a easier to draw unit may lower my standards.
 
>I hunt deer for their horns
>and the meat is a
>byproduct. I hunt elk
>for their meat and the
>horns are a byproduct.
>There are excepts for both
>though. Excellent elk unit
>and I'd give at least
>the first half of the
>hunt for trophy huntin.
>I can't see me applying
>for a deer unit that
>doesn't have reasonable trophy potential
>but a family hunt in
>a easier to draw unit
>may lower my standards.

Next time I kill an elk I would love to trade you for some deer meat.


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I look for a mature deer, 150"+ for me. I've come to the point that I'd rather not kill one than shoot a young one.

For whitetails in a decent area, I'd hold out for 130ish type buck, but like mentioned above, sometimes my stomach gets the best of me. :)

For elk... if its legal its in my freezer.
 
I agree with the guys who said they hunt deer for horns and elk for meat. As far as deer are concerned, I shoot any buck that is bigger than my best but try to let the 160's and 170's go to get big. Just seeing those deer is better than killing them and taking away their potential. If I need meat than I look for the smallest buck on the mt.
 
Its an individual's choice and hopefully to a standard that isn't just to fill a tag for the sake of strapping one on the four-wheeler. Kill a cow elk and let the little guys grow up.
 
My hunts always start out 180 or better, admittedly as the hunt wears on sometimes my goals change (depending on what I am seeing and how many miles I put on my boots).

I have noticed that as I get older I am starting to acquire a taste for tag soup!

Now if I can just get Utodd to like tag soup.
 
If it's not big enough for the wall I don't shoot it now. I have 5 mounted. 2 160's, 185,195 and 200. I love deer meat but I don't want to kill a buck that I don't want to mount if it might be a great buck later in his life. I would definately shoot a cull buck on the last day.
 
A shooter is a good buck for your area and your ability. Also its a buck that you won't have regrets about later for shooting. Might be a forked horn, might be a 200"er. If you're happy with it, then its a shooter!

Don P.
 
My ideas of a shooter have changed drastically over the years. When I was younger it just had to have bone on it's head, then I moved up to 4 points or better, then it was 150 or better. Recently my target has been 190+. But....Hunting means way more to me than just antlers. My family thrives on wild meat. It definately helps out on my single income family budget. I still whack little bucks every year to help supply that awesome wild organic meat for the freezer. And when you are bringing your kids up in the hunting tradition, seeing their excitement is way better than whacking a 200 incher any day. My dad shot a nice nontypical yearling last year. It was a 7x5 with a cool dropper. Most guys on here would think that is a terrible thing, as that buck would have been an absolute TOAD in a few years. But, my dad has a major heart condition, and we had my son with us, and I told dad 'Hammer Him!'. My dad hadn't killed a buck for a few years and that was the second buck in 2 days my son got to see drop. That right there is what it's all about. Guys on here sometimes loose sight of that. It ain't about tine, it's about the hunt.
 
I usually trophy hunt the first two days of the season. After that I lower the standards and shoot the first 36 incher I see.

Eel
 
>I usually trophy hunt the first
>two days of the season.
>After that I lower the
>standards and shoot the first
>36 incher I see.
>
>Eel


Is that 36" gross or net?

Andy
 
LOL, I feel deprived, here in Washington I feel lucky if a "legal" buck is within my sight, LOL

There are only two types of people - The Hunters and the hunted,
I hunt.
Alchase
 
If my first thought is, "should i shoot it?", i know it's not a shooter. If my first thought is "oooooohhhhhhhhhh", then it's click click BOOM!

If you have to talk yourself into shooting, it's not big enough.

Kicker
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-16-07 AT 09:45AM (MST)[p]Yep, what kicker said!
I'm kind of picky. Since I started raising my own beef I hunt for antlers. For blacktail it has to have at least a solid 3 on one side. A 2x3 is ok if it has width or mass but anything smaller will walk. Whitetails have to be a solid 3x3+, outside their ears and be no less than around 125-130+" Mulies have to be outside their ears or have a ton of mass, I do not like spindly tines. Elk have to be a solid 4+ and decent points. I broke my own "no rag horn" rule last year with a small 4 pt. but it was for a good cause. I gave up shooting spikes, 2 pts and little basket bucks years ago. I figure that with a couple of freezers full of beef and elk that it was better to leave them for folks who need them more than I do.
Eric

Ultra liberal, wolf loving, illiterate, gay, hippie midgets on crack piss me off!!!!

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Depends on what day of the hunt it is. I usually hunt 9 day seasons and by day 8 I will shoot one of the bucks I have passed on to avoid eating that $300 non resident tag. I look for at least 24" four point with eye guards and decent mass to start with. Passed on several small four points last year, and shot one with good mass and eye guards, deep back forks but had crabbed front forks. He only scored 150+" but after passing 27 bucks, when I saw him there was no hesitation on day 8 compared to what I had been seeing. I had even passed on a 26" wide three point that looked pretty mature on the 2nd day, just wasn't ready to shoot him and settle.
 
i HATE tag soup. i will hold out for a nice, decent, or big buck until the last day or two. on the last day or two i will shoot anything bigger than a spike (coues)
Casey
 
I don't go out with a set score in mind, I could care less what the tape says. I usually look for one that is about "Yay wide" about "this tall" (I'm holding my arms out but you can't see me) With good forks of course....

:( Somebody didn't like bouncing betty :(
 
kicker, has got it right. If you have to talk your self into shooting it DON'T.
There has been times I have said why did I do that. I don't like that feeling. Never had that feeling with a doe. If that is the deer we are looking for no regrets.
My son shot his first deer last year. He tried to draw a Moose tag and didn't get one. So he got a doe on the second go round. His goal was to find the biggest buck he could and shoot the doe that was with the buck. He said if I can shoot that doe, that buck would have been mine if I had a tag. The 30" buck nosed the doe and turned to curl his lip. The rug was yanked on the doe. Jacob loved the hunt and we loved the meat. Ron
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