Bonus points/ tag numbers???

[RandallT]

So I have 2 questions for everybody.
1. If I have 7 archery elk points as per the dwr website, am I going in this year with 8 or 7? It seems like a dumb question, but last year going in with 6, 7 with my 2012 application. (thats how I think it should work)I didnt draw (shocker, I know. ha), yet according to the draw odds on huntin fools website everybody with 7 points drew out. It would all make sense if that years app didn't count as an extra point because only 50% of 6 pointers drew which means I was one of the unlucky ones. But it only makes sense that with each years application comes an extra point. Please enlighten me somebody!
2. All you guys way more in the know that I am, whats your thoughts on wasatch tag numbers this year? Major decrease, or staying about the same? The past 3 years have been really high and I'm wondering if its going to stay that way.
Thanks in advance for any info you can guys can share.

 

[WapitiBob]

I believe we answered this before. You had 6 points in 2012. Those with 7 drew. You don't get a point prior to the draw, you get another after the draw if unsuccessful. Your "app" is not considered a point.

 

[goofyelk]

Wapitibob is 100% correct to queaton 1..

Queaston 2, With the addision of the 'late hunt' on the Wasatch
this year, there WILL be tag reductions on the Wasatch LE elk
this year for early rifle, muzzy, and archery permits...

Biggest reductions foe muzzy and archery, they will now fall into
the lower percentage avalible bracket according to the EMP...

When late, November, rifle hunts are alowed on a unit, there is
a 'leaser' percentage of permits issued to the ML/bow hunters..

 

[RandallT]

Thanks a ton for that info. Makes better sense now. Looks like I will be altering my plans for this fall.

 

[grizzly]

I don't know whether Wasatch will see a tag increase or decrease, but I did notice the Expo tags for the Wasatch increased from 13 in 2011 and 2012; to 23 in 2013.

Do you feel like there is a correlation between those numbers and public draw numbers?

 

[RandallT]

My thoughts would be yes. I did call one of the biologists today and talked to him about tag numbers and what they're seeing. He said the elk numbers are continuing to increase and doesn't see the overall tag numbers dropping unless age data, and counting shows some drastic changes. I also asked him about home many of the tags would be allotted to the new late hunt, and he said generally its around 40% of the tags! That's seems like a lot! Now the question would be are the tags taken evenly between the three other hunts???

 

[oilcan]

I'm no expert but 40% seems kind of high, in the Manti unit which gives the second most tags next to the Wasatch it is about 20% go to the late hunt.

 

[UGAhunter]

They will determine the number of late hunt tags by calling Doyle and Don, and asking them how many high $ clients need late tags, then they'll go from there.