i must be unlucky but have owned two model 700 bolt action rifles that go off on their own one when you bolt it and one when you take it off safety i cleaned the trigger sear and it helped one and did not help the other very dangerous situation luckily was aiming at deer both times it happened first with each gun and didn't kill anyone there are millions of these older 700 rifles out there . was wondering how many are actually doing this you guys had any personal trouble with this
model 700 that fire on their own
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elkassassin
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There's a few of them out there!
Never had a Failure in many 700's that I own!
Improper Cleaning/Dirt/Rust might be a Factor!
I did contact Remington & they offered me a Free Upgrade/Fix on my oldest 700!
When I talked to the Lady from Remington she got mad when I told her I used WD-40 to Oil it!
She of course said that REM-OIL is the only Oil to use on it,lol!
If I were you I'd Contact Remington & get it Fixed or Scrap the Gun!
Before somebody gets hurt!
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Never had a Failure in many 700's that I own!
Improper Cleaning/Dirt/Rust might be a Factor!
I did contact Remington & they offered me a Free Upgrade/Fix on my oldest 700!
When I talked to the Lady from Remington she got mad when I told her I used WD-40 to Oil it!
She of course said that REM-OIL is the only Oil to use on it,lol!
If I were you I'd Contact Remington & get it Fixed or Scrap the Gun!
Before somebody gets hurt!
[font color="red"]From My Smokin Cherry Red Hot Barrel & My Dead Cold Hands I Shall go down Fighting for American Pride & Rights!
I Know I'm Out Numbered by Pusssies & Brainwashed Democrats that'll Throw Their Hands in the air & I know I can't Lick the U.S. Military by Myself when they Turn on us but I'll make
you one Guarantee,They'll be Enduring a Situation where I Hope to Hell All Americans become True Americans once again & Stand up for their Rights!
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I had a 700 22.250 do that after sitting in
storage for quite some time, I pulled it apart
and sprayed the action and trigger assembly down
with carb cleaner, then blew it off good with an
air blower and lightly lubed it. hasnt happened
again, mine would go off when i pushed the saftey
forward.
storage for quite some time, I pulled it apart
and sprayed the action and trigger assembly down
with carb cleaner, then blew it off good with an
air blower and lightly lubed it. hasnt happened
again, mine would go off when i pushed the saftey
forward.
LAST EDITED ON Mar-20-14 AT 08:35AM (MST)[p]Many old articles about this problem(or not)in the gun forum.
I have an OLD Rem 700 ADL. I had heard about this problem years ago, never had it happen to me or seen it.
I do have a friend who's son's 700 did and he's permenently
damaged.
I was putting it on new stock and conversion kit to BDL, the 1st thing I did was get a new Timney Tigger. I think it's a 510 model.
Best thing I ever did. Clean & crisp release. The 3lb factory setting is as smooth as my old one at 2 1/2#s.
Put a Timney on it. Don't even try and get Rem to do anything. I wouldn't put one of their replacement triggers in mine.
I have an OLD Rem 700 ADL. I had heard about this problem years ago, never had it happen to me or seen it.
I do have a friend who's son's 700 did and he's permenently
damaged.
I was putting it on new stock and conversion kit to BDL, the 1st thing I did was get a new Timney Tigger. I think it's a 510 model.
Best thing I ever did. Clean & crisp release. The 3lb factory setting is as smooth as my old one at 2 1/2#s.
Put a Timney on it. Don't even try and get Rem to do anything. I wouldn't put one of their replacement triggers in mine.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/mone...g/2010-10-20-remington-700-trigger-cnbc_N.htm
The extractor on 700's is weak too.some worse than others. A popular fix is adapting a Sako extractor. I have heard that vs safety issues too.
The extractor on 700's is weak too.some worse than others. A popular fix is adapting a Sako extractor. I have heard that vs safety issues too.
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Many of the model 700 accidents come from people even bubba gunsmiths who don't know how to adjust the trigger properly.
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A lot of people can rebuild a carburetor but there are more that think they can but shouldn't. Cahunter is correct, somebody who shouldn't have been adjusting your trigger botched up the job and you are now seeing the results.
Any decent gunsmith can take care of your problem at very minimal cost and adjust your trigger to your liking while doing so. In the mean time, do not let ammunition get anywhere near the chamber, the gun is NOT SAFE until repaired.
Of the millions of Rem 700's produced, there is lots of examples posted here and there about faulty Remington bolt rifles. I have dealt with many Rem 700's and not had any problems, have found them to be very dependable thru the 45 years i've hunted them.
Upgrade components, like trigger assemblies, are always a option but i've never found the need to do so.
Joey
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Any decent gunsmith can take care of your problem at very minimal cost and adjust your trigger to your liking while doing so. In the mean time, do not let ammunition get anywhere near the chamber, the gun is NOT SAFE until repaired.
Of the millions of Rem 700's produced, there is lots of examples posted here and there about faulty Remington bolt rifles. I have dealt with many Rem 700's and not had any problems, have found them to be very dependable thru the 45 years i've hunted them.
Upgrade components, like trigger assemblies, are always a option but i've never found the need to do so.
Joey
"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
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There was a 60 Minute special some years ago that went into the problem with the model 700. If I remember correctly the primary interviewee was the designer or engineer. Anyway some old feller who was the 700 expert. He basically stated Remington did not want to spend the extra money to fix the defect in the Model 700. It would have cost an extra 80 cents or something like that. I believe what brought it up was a class action suit by some folks who had a family member killed with a faulty 700. Of course Remington denied it and I don't recall what happened with the suit. They probably fixed the issue but it makes ya wonder how many are still out there. I'm probably incorrect on some of the details but I'm sure the 60 Minute episode is somewhere online.
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My friend and me were at his grandpas house in what he calls his little house. Its a insulated shed with ac, and heater, power and well everything but a bathroom and kitchen sink. You can walk to the house for that. Needless to say we were doing some reloading and his grandpa who is a ex gunsmith (doesn't do it commercially any longer) wanted to check the head space. Dropped in the gauges and it tested fine, then he chambered a round and BOOM! it went off. This was a new in the box rifle that my friend won at banquet about 5 years ago. Remington sent them a shipping label and box next day and replaced the defective trigger, and or bolt. But that could have been bad had we not practiced gun safety. So yes they are still making them with bad trigger groups.
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Yes, it has happened to others! My father owns a .222 Remington Mohawk 600 (very similar to the 700) that he bought in the 70's. I have had two different problems happen with it multiple times while hunting coyotes. The first is that the gun fires upon taking the safety off, which is very scary (can anyone say "muzzle control?"). The second problem I had with it several times was that I would close the bolt and the firing pin would go forward. It wouldn't fire the round as it went forward too slowly, but then the rifle would not fire after that (I actually ended up shooting at a coyote at 17 yards with my Glock instead because the Remington wouldn't fire - missed him). It was sent back to Remington for repairs before someone was killed by the unsafe gun, and it came back with the trigger guard dinged up, and ended up having the same problems again after putting about a dozen rounds through it.
I have been quite unimpressed with Remington in the last 15 years or so. Their guns used to be pretty cutting edge and accurate compared to most, but I haven't shot one of their newer models that I was impressed with from an accuracy standpoint. I'm all about Savage now - very accurate, reliable, and amazing trigger. Remington, in my opinion, hasn't kept up, and it's starting to show.
I have been quite unimpressed with Remington in the last 15 years or so. Their guns used to be pretty cutting edge and accurate compared to most, but I haven't shot one of their newer models that I was impressed with from an accuracy standpoint. I'm all about Savage now - very accurate, reliable, and amazing trigger. Remington, in my opinion, hasn't kept up, and it's starting to show.
To put Mr. Walker's statement, 80 cents back then was like $10 today! It would have cost Remington a lot of their competitive edge over Winchester, cost. Winchester had to slowly start cutting corners on the m70, but mostly in wood and finish. Near the end of the pre64 era, they were selling the m70 at a loss and of was still half again the price of a 700. Yes, a lot was due to an old design that required more machining and fitting, but some was refusal to cut corners in critical areas. Of course, it doesn't matter when you can't make money on your product. Profit margin wins out every time.
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My dad had his trigger adjusted on his 7mm Weatherby Mag. On a hunt after that, we got to the truck, he flipped it off safety and it went off. Scared the heck out of both of us. Luckily he had it pointed safely in the air.
That incident sure is with me though. Always very careful.
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That incident sure is with me though. Always very careful.
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both guns i had were bought new by me and never had trigger touched. when i had trouble i cleaned the trigger sear inside the gun good and it seemed to function normally then went right back to same thing i saw the show on 60 minutes about the woman shooting her son later. 2 timney triggers fixed my guns but beings there are literally millions of model 700s out there its just a matter of time before someone else gets killed. and most people think its just someone being careless and bumping the trigger not and actual malfunction of the gun. i can assure you in my case it was a malfunction. i could make the guns shoot without my hand being near the trigger. remington needs to do something nobodies life is worth them saving money on a recall
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I've been around a lot of Remington 700's and not ever had a problem excepting a couple cases of bad work on guys guns that was plain old bad work. That said, i've also no doubt but to believe what you guys are saying to be true. Yes, Remington should have recalled each and every one of those possibly malfunctioning rifles.
Is this a case of that was then and this is now? I'm so sold on Remington products and lots of guys have them. To me, they have been great, have put out a great product.
Joey
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Is this a case of that was then and this is now? I'm so sold on Remington products and lots of guys have them. To me, they have been great, have put out a great product.
Joey
"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
I heard the stories and saw the special on TV too. I decided to not chance it and had a brand new Timney trigger installed on my new Remington 700.
I was assured there would be no issues with Remington's new trigger but I decided to upgrade anyways. The Timney is a much nicer trigger.
I was assured there would be no issues with Remington's new trigger but I decided to upgrade anyways. The Timney is a much nicer trigger.
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I have adjusted a fair amount of rem 700 triggers and they are all still working great.
One thing that many people forget is proper cleaning and lubrication. I've worked on some triggers that are so full of gunk they barely work. Wd40 is a mess in triggers.
Properly clean your trigger every season. Flush it with lighter fluid or brake clean and use some dry graphite.Remove the trigger from the action when cleaning it also.
One thing that many people forget is proper cleaning and lubrication. I've worked on some triggers that are so full of gunk they barely work. Wd40 is a mess in triggers.
Properly clean your trigger every season. Flush it with lighter fluid or brake clean and use some dry graphite.Remove the trigger from the action when cleaning it also.
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>I have adjusted a fair amount
>of rem 700 triggers and
>they are all still working
>great.
>One thing that many people forget
>is proper cleaning and lubrication.
>I've worked on some triggers
>that are so full of
>gunk they barely work. Wd40
>is a mess in triggers.
>
>Properly clean your trigger every season.
>Flush it with lighter fluid
>or brake clean and use
>some dry graphite.Remove the trigger
>from the action when cleaning
>it also.
Another WD-40 Hater!
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>of rem 700 triggers and
>they are all still working
>great.
>One thing that many people forget
>is proper cleaning and lubrication.
>I've worked on some triggers
>that are so full of
>gunk they barely work. Wd40
>is a mess in triggers.
>
>Properly clean your trigger every season.
>Flush it with lighter fluid
>or brake clean and use
>some dry graphite.Remove the trigger
>from the action when cleaning
>it also.
Another WD-40 Hater!
[font color="red"]From My Smokin Cherry Red Hot Barrel & My Dead Cold Hands I Shall go down Fighting for American Pride & Rights!
I Know I'm Out Numbered by Pusssies & Brainwashed Democrats that'll Throw Their Hands in the air & I know I can't Lick the U.S. Military by Myself when they Turn on us but I'll make
you one Guarantee,They'll be Enduring a Situation where I Hope to Hell All Americans become True Americans once again & Stand up for their Rights!
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