Bitter sweet bull

6chukar

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Unfortunately my wife should have been a lot more excited after she shot her first elk, and a very unique bull at that. She drew a new elk unit here in Nevada that only issues two rifle tags for September, sounds awesome right? Not when the other tag holder is the most unethical hunter I've ever seen(also was a female). Upon arrival to camp around 230 pm we unloaded and headed out for the evening hunt. The very first spot I parked and threw up my glass I spotted a group of cows and a huge bull. It was a no- doubter. After about a 45 min stalk we were under 100 yards from the bull who was laying behind a single tree. The cows were out feeding between 50 to 100 yards from us and I noticed a truck coming down the road. What are the odds it was the only other tag holder? Another 45 min went by while we were waiting for the bull to stand up and I heard something to my right. It was the other tag holder her husband and son. They were. 30 yards from me when they saw us. They just looked at me and waved and sat down. I gotta admit I was thoroughly confused and many thoughts went through my head. I decided to go talk to them. I had to be very carefully not to spook the elk. I walked over and told them we were on that bull and watched them drive up the road and that we had been sitting there for 45 min. I assumed they got the point and were just going to watch. 30 min went by and the bull stood up. My wife had him in the scope but we could only see his hind quarter so we were waiting for him to step forward when I heard a shot and the whack of a bullet. The other hunter(if you can even call her that) had shot the bull sitting not 30 yards from us. Unfu$$ing believable. Needless to say the hunt wasn't the same after that and I felt horrible for my wife. Anyway it was all I could do just to write this it still makes my blood pressure spike and feel utter confusion in my head. I just hope that the majority of you aren't like these clowns and I don't believe you are. I refuse to or it would be a pretty shitty world .
 
You always will have 2 types on the mountain! The type that is always welcome in my camp and them! Your wife has a kick ass bull in my book!

Size is nothing compared with a 1 of a kind freak!
 
Looks like something goofyelk would shoot!:D

(((RAZZIN!)))

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You can see 6x6 bulls every day, the one she got is harder to get for sure.
Public land hunting does suck sometimes.

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You and your wife are welcome in my camp any time.

The other hunters will undoubtedly face some serious adversity in their life with terrible decisions like that -- call it karma -- so really, they'll inevitably lose the war and probably already have.
 
Congrats to your wife. Sorry her first elk had to have the unpleasant situation. Hopefully she continues and has many great hunts to come. It does take all kinds - just wish they would stay home.
 
Wow, 2nd time this year that I know off. The term "Hunter Ethics" is becoming an oxymoron.

Sorry to hear about this, and although your wifes bull is a cool critter, I'm sure you will forever have that bitter taste that can't be spit out.

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Those of you that are blindly accepting this post as the truth should be questioning yourself and your sense of judgement and fair play. The ability of some blowhard to post anything they want as the truth is one of the reasons many of us older hunters do not post much anymore. 6chukar has not told very much of the truth here. Not much at all. I was involved in this and will set the record straight if it is OK'd by the moderators but I doubt it will be. This great forum does not allow negative postings.







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Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.
 
>Those of you that are blindly
>accepting this post as the
>truth should be questioning yourself
>and your sense of judgement
>and fair play. The
>ability of some blowhard to
>post anything they want as
>the truth is one of
>the reasons many of us
>older hunters do not post
>much anymore. 6chukar has not
>told very much of the
>truth here. Not much at
>all. I was involved in
>this and will set the
>record straight if it is
>OK'd by the moderators but
>I doubt it will be.
>This great forum does not
>allow negative postings.
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>Measure wealth by the things you
>have,, for which you would
>not take money.

Please do!!!! Let the masses make up their own minds after hearing both sides as it is only fair.
 
>Those of you that are blindly
>accepting this post as the
>truth should be questioning yourself
>and your sense of judgement
>and fair play. The
>ability of some blowhard to
>post anything they want as
>the truth is one of
>the reasons many of us
>older hunters do not post
>much anymore. 6chukar has not
>told very much of the
>truth here. Not much at
>all. I was involved in
>this and will set the
>record straight if it is
>OK'd by the moderators but
>I doubt it will be.
>This great forum does not
>allow negative postings.
>


Ok, so let's hear it...
 
Sorry to hear about the bad ethics encountered on your hunt.

On the other hand any elk is a good elk and you got a very unique bull! Congrats!
 
>Those of you that are blindly
>accepting this post as the
>truth should be questioning yourself
>and your sense of judgement
>and fair play. The
>ability of some blowhard to
>post anything they want as
>the truth is one of
>the reasons many of us
>older hunters do not post
>much anymore. 6chukar has not
>told very much of the
>truth here. Not much at
>all. I was involved in
>this and will set the
>record straight if it is
>OK'd by the moderators but
>I doubt it will be.
>This great forum does not
>allow negative postings.
>
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Waiting for this one to.
 
Congrats on a great bull!
Just a question. Could you not have moved into position for a bedded shot? 100 yards bedded I'd take that shot any day.
 
Cahunter, your point is right on and you have pointed out one of the many untruths told in the initial post. Don't just take the words posted and feel sorry for this guy. We had the kill shot at 230 yds. The other party was farther away than we were.
I am going to respect the forum rules and will say no more than that for now. I have contacted the forum moderators to check out this post or for permission to address the lies in it and will not post our story until they have said OK as for me to address it would because a reply would cause me to violate the forum rules posted above.

This forum is supposed to a positive experience for us hunters. They ask for
-- "respect each other"
-- no foul or obscene language including * # etc_ (already violated by 6chukar)

-- "troublemakers are not welcome"




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Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.
 
Just tell your side of the story already....JFP!!!!

Oops sorry mods I didn't get permission for that last post, hope I didn't break any rules.
 
All enter the mm courtroom! This trial will hinge on 1 simple question, who was workin this bull first? We should have this knocked out in 4-5days!
 
WOW. I can't wait to hear nvhunters side. Yardage has nothing to do with this story you snuck up to the elk and sat down on the same ridge we were on no more then 30 yards from us when we had already been there for 45 min. End of story. You know you were in the wrong and there isn't any FACT you could even state that wouldn't make that true. Can't wait to hear these lies. I had five other friends watching from a distance so it's not just me that feels screwed over.
 
And I would also like to say I would expect nothing less from a "hunter" that would do something like that, then to turn around and justify it to himself.. I'm sure in your mind it was fair game.
 
>And I would also like to
>say I would expect nothing
>less from a "hunter" that
>would do something like that,
>then to turn around and
>justify it to himself.. I'm
>sure in your mind it
>was fair game.


Don't take this the wrong way but things aren't looking too good for you right now from the outside looking in.

You already exaggerated the distance and are losing credibility.

Also, the golden rule is first fatal wound. That's the way every hunter ed class is taught as well.
 
Chukar I don't want to sound rude or anything but you stated you snuck with 100 yards of the bull bedded behind a single tree. Then you sat for 45 minutes before the other guy arrived. In those 45 minutes you couldn't move into any other position for a shot?
I understand waiting for the bull to stand but within 100 yards I'd feel pretty confident about shooting a bedded bull.
I do feel if you were there first the other guy shouldve respected that. I know if I'm hunting an area and see a hunter on a stalk. I'll stay put and watch it unfold.
 
A simple post showing the cool bull your wife shot would have been sufficient. Why post up a story about the bull that the other hunter shot and no story relating to your wife's bull? Your wife doesn't look too disappointed about her bull in the pictures...
 
We were within 100 yards but there were cows feeding in between us and the bull and we were in a perfect spot for a shot. It was all clear around the trees so the bull had nowhere to go where we couldn't get a good shot. I've blown enough stalks archery hunting by being impatient to know that bull was as good as dead once he got up.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-01-14 AT 05:26PM (MST)[p] We scouted this country during the summer, located the cows and calves and made contacts with the rancher whose property the elk seemed to water and feed on during the night. He gave us permission to access any of the ranch property to hunt. We arrived the day before the season and contacted him. I asked him if the other tag holder had contacted him about ranch access. The answer was no.
Opening day we located the bull we eventually shot. He was not with the cows and disappeared into the desert before we could stalk him. The next morning we located him again but as we were stalking closer, a pickup truck with no muffler spooked him off before we could stalk closer. We had a hard time relocating him. We tried to access the area we thought he was in but a severe thunderstorm with rain and hail made access impossible due to the slick snotty clay. We couldn't keep the truck on the steep, off camber road. The next day it had dried out enough to allow vehicle access again. We spotted the bull and some cows and watched them for awhile. The big bull left the cows and ran off a smaller bull, disappearing from view to the right. At this point, the area we first saw the bull was down in a somewhat open canyon and the location we eventually shot the bull was not visible from that location, nor were there any vehicle tracks on the road or any vehicles or hunters in sight.
We continued working our way up the draw to the left of the canyon the bull and cows were in peering every so often to keep tabs on the elk. The elk were gradually moving up the canyon as the cows fed up. We almost paused and set up to take a shot but we decided to peek up around a few more trees up the ridge for a closer, higher location. It was then that I saw the two other hunters standing on the skyline near the top. I motioned to them and they stared back at us. My wife crawled under the juniper tree she eventually shot the bull from as I looked a better angle on the bull. It was at this time the hunters standing on the ridge line moved down closer to us and lay down. I could just make them out over the top of some junipers and they got prone and prepared for the shot. Soon the guy backed away from the woman and started down toward us. Contrary to what was previously stated, he did not come "talk to us". Now mind you, I am 63 and a lifetime of construction work and shooting has not left my hearing in pristine condition. I would say he stopped about 40 yards away and proceeded to scold us in the highest wisper tone he could muster. I made out him saying "our bull", "your not going to shoot him are you?" All the time puffing his chest out and waving his hands around. It seemed to me he was being very confrontational and trying to somewhat intimidate us into leaving. Not a good situation. My wife and I discussed the situation. In our opinion, they seemed to appear after us, we had a legal tag, we had made a good stalk, we had the 230 yard shot on the bull standing in the junipers (a juniper cluster, not alone juniper) and they were farther way with no shot. We took the first shot and rocked the bull. We followed with two more shots since he was still standing. He took a few steps backward and fell. We had our bull we had worked so hard for! Immediately after the first shot, a man-child temper tantrum erupted. Cuss words and swear words as loud as they could be yelled. I crawled and backed out from under the tree and the guy was already gone over the ridge. Yelling and screaming at the top of his voice. It was the most un-sportsman like rant I have ever heard in the field. Not a word from the lady with the tag. Had the tables been turned and we heard a shot and whomp as we came up the ridge, we would have cussed under our breath at our back luck and gone up to see the bull and congratulate the hunters and make a new friend.
We got the bull skinned and quartered and boned out the rest of the meat. Our new rancher friend wanted us to come by and show him the bull. We waited for him on the road by his home as he was just getting home. A bunch of people stopped along the road to admire my wife's beautiful bull. As a side note we came in from the east and south side of the bulls location. The other hunters came in from the west or north, which required crossing private property. I never did see their vehicle. I asked the rancher again if he had given anyone else permission to trespass across his property and cross his freshly hayed meadows, he said no.
We broke down our wall tent and the rest of camp the next morning. We had to drive by the other hunters camp on the way out and there he stood, 200yds away by his trailer, arm in the air and finger extended. Oh well, we got the bull and get to admire it the rest of our lives and he's got his middle finger to look at. We wish this never had occurred the way it did.

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Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.
 
Those two stories have a bit of conflicting information....

But congrats to both hunters who eventually got bulls. Public land will always create these sorts of controversies on occasion.
 
What the Hell is happening to this place? You people that have all these stupid stories need to take them somewhere else. No wonder we lose members. mtmuley
 
>What the Hell is happening to
>this place? You people that
>have all these stupid stories
>need to take them somewhere
>else. No wonder we lose
>members. mtmuley

I'm with MntMulley on this. Should have just posted your success. Other hunter should start his own thread if he wants to post the pic of the bull his wife killed. Actually the wives should post there own pics and leave the hubbies to argue somewhere else.
 
Who cares about the finger pointing stories! Lets see a picture of this "beautiful bull" that supposedly brought out the best in both parties........
 
Bummer situation. Regardless, whoever was on the bull first, and if the second hunter was aware of the first, the second should have backed off. Plain and simple.
 
I want to see a pic of the other bull.

I also agree that your wife looks plenty happy but you look to be the one who is upset. Just sayin'.
 
>Bummer situation. Regardless, whoever was
>on the bull first, and
>if the second hunter was
>aware of the first, the
>second should have backed off.
> Plain and simple.


Problem is they both think they were first!

Rut
 
Get the bigger bull mounted and give it to the other gal to hang in her garage. That should smooth everything out.
 
Looks like both Lady tag holders are from Sparks? Maybe they can do lunch & visit about their hunts? David
 
>Real question is....Who has the hottest
>wife?


OH MAN! I am seriously laughing right now that is something I would have said but don't have the balls....


All I can say is that it is an unfortunate situation cause both parties believe they are in the right but at the end of the day both tags were filled.
 
I don't care who did what in this situation. All I know is this. 6chukar got on here, posted a photo of his wife's cool bull, and then proceeded to relay the story of the one that got away. Not cool.

A story about the bull she got would have been sufficient. We would have all congratulated her on a fine bull and you, 6chukar, for having married a fine woman.

Instead we got this...

Tell your wife congrats...

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 

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