This is for "everyone else"

[Bigmike2]

You know I hear a lot about how guys wish they could hunt with certain people, guides, and magazine writers/owners. Also along with comes a lot of "I wish" and "oh man what if."

To me and many others like me i really don't think that it has to be this way. I truly think that anyone and I do mean anyone can give it all their bodies have with the equipment they already have and still take just as many quality bucks.

You don't need to pull out the Cablea's magazine and spend every last penny you have just because someone or some review said it was the best piece of equipment. Now at the same time I'm not saying quality equipment is unnecessary I'm simply saying that it's not all about equipment.

If more hunters would take the time to pull their noses out of the magazines, their eyes off of the computers, and be the ones to lace the boots up and see the winter range first hand, go out in the spring and find the sheds , and take a little more time and scout the areas that you are going to hunt that year their success rate would be unbeleiveable as would the quality of the animals.

I simply think more credit needs to be given to the average hunters and more so the successful ones who have done it in the way i just explained. To me these are the true hunters and not the payers and buyers guides and owners.

 

[proutdoors]

Here we go again.}>

PRO

Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.

 

[blazingsaddle]

I agree to some point. I give more credit to the DIY hunter that consistantly takes home good bucks from public land, than the hunter that has 10 200" bucks, taken from leased land, or was with a guide.
I'm not knocking guides, hell I'd love to be one. I'm also not saying that a hunter that uses a guide is not a good hunter either. To each their own.
But personally, I guess I'm too proud to have a guide. I find it more rewarding to know it was me, family and friends that got it done.

 

[canhunter]

My EGO could not handle paying someone to help me do something I could do myself. I know some dang good hunters who have used guides (due to legal requirements) and they did not mind too much. Then again if they could have they would skip the guide. I agree there are a lot of shooters who pay people to do their hunting for them. But that is the way of the world. I'm grumbling because I can see the obvious trend, and I can not afford the "pay" for hunting.

 

[timberline_shedfreak24]

I think just about anyone with unlimited resources (money, gas, people, time) can consistently kill big deer every year. If you are able to be out there every second you are bound to run onto a big critter, thats just the way it is. I respect those that do it as a hobby, due to restrictments from work, family or whatever. They are the true heroes. People able to be a dad, a worker and supplyer and a true hunter. I have more respect for them than just about anyone. My dad fits that catergory and I hope some day I can live up to the things he has taught me and still teaches me to this day.


Timberline

 

[BomberBlackies]

Guides and outfitters are like Global Warming everybody hates what it's doing. What? They are growing tomatoes near Hudson Bay? But, with the melting glaciers the ocean will raise over 4 feet and they will be under water. It's not Bush's fault, its the guides and outfitters fault! Let lynch them in the back of the alley.

 

[cowslayer]

What? So are you saying Guides and outfitters are not real and are a scientific farse? Global Warming... WHAT?

Kudos to anyone that legally takes big game, guide, private land, public or no guide.

CS

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[BomberBlackies]

NO, actually I'm trying to sound like a politician who doesn't know what the hell he or she is talking about. ie; hurricanes and the effects of global warming. Yes, basically a smart arse today.

 

[cabinfever]

Money,all the time in the world,and unlimted resources=Monster Bucks & Bulls for the rich fat guy

Time, time,and more time, and a little money=Monster Bucks & Bull for the average DIY hunter.

 

[Wiszard]

"Let lynch them in the back of the alley."

Bomber- I'm staying away from that one! I think that whole thing is a joke! Why does someone have to find something racial in every comment that someone makes?

Steve

 

[Bigmike2]

Im not knocking guides/outfitters by any means. I simply wish that people didnt have to rely upon them for all of their kills and also for articles in their magazines

 

[BeanMan]

I'm not going to use the 'P' word, not going to do it.

Beanman

 

[timberline_shedfreak24]

Not everyone requires a guide or needs a guide. And most people that do give credit in the magazines or websites or whatever. There is always 2 sides to anything. Some people that kill big animals with guides dont deserve it, some need a guide like a handicap hunter, there is always two sides to everything. Remeber that. Im +1 for anyone that hunts and +1000 for anyone that is fortunate enuff to do it for a living.


Timberline

 

[zekers]

It's funny, I vividly remember not being able to go on a 3-d archery shoot one saturday in May. When I told my buddies that I was going scouting, they swore I was off my rocker. Those are the same guys who whine about not getting anything, game densities, guides, and so on.

 

[gb22]

Zeker has a point. Some neighbors used to comment to my dad that his kid sure was lucky (about hunting). Dad always said, "lucky, h..., he just works harder than you".

I'm jealous of anyone who gets to guide for a living and somewhat jealous of anyone who can afford those real guided hunts with horses, wall tents and someone to show me in which basin a big deer lives. However, real life says I'll do about the same during my vacation. I'll take the kids and even neighbor kids as often as they want to go.

A couple llamas, decent equipment, 4 or 5 days, and lots of effort get the job done most of the time.

 

[oakbrush]

I haven't ever used a guide. But if I had $10,000.00 to spend on a hunt every year, would I use one? You bet. I get great satisfaction out of doing it myself, but I would love to be able to hunt 190+ bucks on un-pressured land also. Just because someone is in a better place financally than I am, doesn't mean that he doesn't have the same passion for the hunt that I do.

Bigmike2 wrote:

"I simply think more credit needs to be given to the average hunters and more so the successful ones who have done it in the way i just explained. To me these are the true hunters and not the payers and buyers guides and owners."

I feel that credit needs to be given to both types of hunters. Kudos to the average guy that put a lot of time in and got a great buck on public land. And Kudos to the guy that worked hard at his job or business and took a risk or two so he could afford a guided hunt.

Thanks,
oakbrush