Vernon Deer

[southy10]

8 points and didn't draw vernon the draw odds are a bunch of crap just to get your hopes up. We held off the Wyoming draw and everything just cause we thought we were going to draw. Did anyone draw with less points or more points I would like to no . thanks

 

[legacy]

In 2007, 139 applicants had 7 points. Which means close to that had 8 points this year. Give it a few more years.

http://www.wildlife.utah.gov/hunting/biggame/pdf/07_stats/09.pdf

 

[EROCK1313]

LAST EDITED ON May-04-08 AT 01:44AM (MST)[p]I feel your pain. Same Unit, same points....SAME RESULTS!!! It's ridiculous, considering this isn't even a Premium Unit!!! It's almost like it's a plot to get you to go for those Premium Units instead (higher revenue for the DWR - especially for Group Applications which is pretty common) and they purposely string you along for discouragement from the Limited Entry.

It shouldn't take 10 points to draw Vernon!

Paunsaugunt only takes 1 or 2 more.
Book Cliffs should be about the same or better odds.
Henry Mtns. might be worth the wait for about 5 more points.

Ridiculous for Vernon, really.

 

[_droptine_]

That is too bad. I haven't hunted out there in 20 years, but even then, assuming that the deer quality was the same or better than now, I wouldn't have thought it would have been worth spending that many points on.

I think that Utah's not going to micro units is the root cause of this. Right now, people put in for something like the Henries for some years and haven't drawn it and now they want to cash out. They want to use their points, but how many choices do you have to use them in? Not many, so point creep kicks in big time.

Now take for example, a state like Colorado with lots of micro units. There are units that usually take 0 to 1 points all the way up to those that take way more than that. The point is that when you want to cash out your points, there are enough places to choose that point creep doesn't happen as quickly.

I realize that this isn't quite an apples to apples comparison because of the way the point systems work in each state, but I think the principle applies.

Also, going to micro units won't fix things overnight ( Colorado did this on a state wide basis 9 years ago I believe ), but after time, it will pay dividends.

My 2 cents.

 

[desertpointbrian]

i have a friend that drew out on the paunsagaunt unit any weapon with one freakin point.i have 8 elk points now and can not draw out i guess it is all luck as i do not have faith in the point system anymore

 

[utah450]

Like Legacy said, you should not have expected it. There are quite a few with the same number of points as you. If you have my luck, it will be about five more years for you, when they have no other choice, but to give you a tag. If it makes you feel any better, my bro drew Vernon with 8 points

 

[tooele]

It is a mediocre unit at best for true monster deer, but here is the problem it is at max 1 hour drive from the wasatch front. This in turn makes it familiar country for people to camp, scout, and easy to hunt, thus the draw odds like the henry mountains. It is a question of conveniance.

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