Bruinbrewin
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Would it be worthwile buying a Buffalo or Elk tag to carry along while deer hunting the 12A-West late hunt?
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Tsiuboyss
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LAST EDITED ON Jul-27-08 AT 00:39AM (MST)[p]buff mabee
elk no
do you want to concentrate on killing a nice deer or do you want to kill a buff. the area where the buff are has deer but is not the best place to kill a huge buck also it becomes a circus down there with people driving up and down the few roads where the buff hang out good luck
elk no
do you want to concentrate on killing a nice deer or do you want to kill a buff. the area where the buff are has deer but is not the best place to kill a huge buck also it becomes a circus down there with people driving up and down the few roads where the buff hang out good luck
Bruinbrewin
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Thanks for he help Tsiuboyss, I really appreciate it and I hope to put the information to good use. My main focus is on finding a nice buck. I have ordered the topo maps from USGS for the area and I hope to get in some scouting trips between now and then. I was thinking about shelling out for a map service but a couple of PM's said I would have no problem seeing a few 180 plus bucks. That is kind of in line with my hopes. Larger wouldn't hurt my feelings either. I was told don't pass on too many 180's because the true big boys are few and far between. I hope I have some luck so I can finally post a couple of picks on here. Thanks again and godspeed.
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azdogman
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after you kill your buck if you have time you can run to flag and buy a buff tag. I passed up on 4 or 5 180 type bucks last year before i shot my buck 206. You will see alot of nice bucks but you will not get a 190+ buck if you shoot the first 180 buck you see. Last year was a really good year for the kiabab because they had alot of early snow and all the deer were down low. Early scouting trips are only good to get familiar with the country since the deer will be in a different area come the hunt. The thing to remember is if there has been snow spend all your time down low, if you are in pine trees you are in the wrong area.. imo
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BOW_N_ARROW
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The buffalo and elk are few and between.
During the early east side hunt last year, I talk to a guy that had a 6-point bull in the back of the truck at Jacob Lake. He was pretty lucky as he saw them cross the highway and was able to go from there. One of my friends in camp saw a 4-point bull with 5 cows crossing the highway as well.
A friend that had a west side early tag shot a small buck in order to concentrate on a buffalo. He hunted them hard but only saw tracks.
I know of three buffalo taken this year on the depredation hunts.
So there are some animals, but just as Tsuiboyss said, what is your goal? If you want a good buck, you are better off concentrating on a quality deer.
But if you shoot a monster opening morning, why not stay out in pursuit of an elk or buffalo. I mean what do you have to lose, the price of the tag, but the time in the woods is worth it to me.
Either way, good luck and let us know how you do.
JB
During the early east side hunt last year, I talk to a guy that had a 6-point bull in the back of the truck at Jacob Lake. He was pretty lucky as he saw them cross the highway and was able to go from there. One of my friends in camp saw a 4-point bull with 5 cows crossing the highway as well.
A friend that had a west side early tag shot a small buck in order to concentrate on a buffalo. He hunted them hard but only saw tracks.
I know of three buffalo taken this year on the depredation hunts.
So there are some animals, but just as Tsuiboyss said, what is your goal? If you want a good buck, you are better off concentrating on a quality deer.
But if you shoot a monster opening morning, why not stay out in pursuit of an elk or buffalo. I mean what do you have to lose, the price of the tag, but the time in the woods is worth it to me.
Either way, good luck and let us know how you do.
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redrabbit
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Two years ago, a friend and his wife both had Kaibab 12AW tags. They both shot Buffs the first two days of the hunt, and then got their bucks. They figured to hunt the buff first as the deer hunters would soon run the buff back into the park.
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Bruinbrewin
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Thanks everyone for the info, I am focusing on a nice buck but if I happen to luck out on the buck I am hoping for early on in the hunt I may just take a run into Flagstaff to pick up a Buffalo tag to close out the rest of the hunt. Is Flagstaff the nearest place to get the Buffalo tag? How about Jacobs Lake or Page?
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OutdoorWriter
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Bruin,
If you do not get the buff permit prior to your hunt, Flagstaff is the nearest option becuae the supplemental permits are available ONLY at the AGFD regional offices - ie Flagstaff. Phoenix, Tucson, Kingman or Pinetop. The section below is from the 2008-2009 regs. -TONY
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G. If the season dates and open areas of a supplemental
hunt prescribed by the Commission through Commission
Order exactly match the season dates and open areas of
another big game animal for which a hunt number is
assigned and hunt permit-tags are issued through the
draw, the Department shall make the restricted nonpermit-
tags available only to holders of the hunt permit-tags,
and not the hunter pool.
H. To obtain a restricted nonpermit-tag under subsection
(G), an applicant shall provide to a DEPARTMENT OFFICE
the applicant's name, address, Department identification
number, and hunt permit-tag number on a form prescribed
by the Department.
a. The applicant shall provide verification that the
applicant legally obtained the hunt permit-tag
for the hunt described under subsection (G) by
presenting the hunt permit-tag to a Department
office for verification.
b. The applicant shall not apply for or obtain
a restricted nonpermit-tag to take wildlife in
excess of the bag limit prescribed by the Commission.
If you do not get the buff permit prior to your hunt, Flagstaff is the nearest option becuae the supplemental permits are available ONLY at the AGFD regional offices - ie Flagstaff. Phoenix, Tucson, Kingman or Pinetop. The section below is from the 2008-2009 regs. -TONY
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G. If the season dates and open areas of a supplemental
hunt prescribed by the Commission through Commission
Order exactly match the season dates and open areas of
another big game animal for which a hunt number is
assigned and hunt permit-tags are issued through the
draw, the Department shall make the restricted nonpermit-
tags available only to holders of the hunt permit-tags,
and not the hunter pool.
H. To obtain a restricted nonpermit-tag under subsection
(G), an applicant shall provide to a DEPARTMENT OFFICE
the applicant's name, address, Department identification
number, and hunt permit-tag number on a form prescribed
by the Department.
a. The applicant shall provide verification that the
applicant legally obtained the hunt permit-tag
for the hunt described under subsection (G) by
presenting the hunt permit-tag to a Department
office for verification.
b. The applicant shall not apply for or obtain
a restricted nonpermit-tag to take wildlife in
excess of the bag limit prescribed by the Commission.
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Lenderdave
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Not a bad idea to buy the elk tag. My bro-in-law had the early 12AW tag last year. I thought he bought the tag prior to the hunt...WRONG. On opening morning I glassed up a 6X6 bull, not huge but all of 320. It was then that he informed me that he did not get the elk tag before the hunt. The bull fed across the ridge closer to us and ended up getting within 200 yards. WOuld have been nice to have bagged that bull.
If you buy an elk tag, you wont see one. If you dont buy one, you just might!
If you buy an elk tag, you wont see one. If you dont buy one, you just might!
