Where Does All The Money Go???

Addicted2Racks · Aug 6, 2008

What's your point of view? I've been to most of the surrounding states and it seems to me that the wildlife officers drive older vehilces. Why does Utah's officers have to have the Brand New Ones every year? Is there a simple reason for it. I just think money can be used elsewhere like wildlife resources. Our tags are some of the highest priced also. We don't mind paying the price, but come on. Most of our lakes and rivers only produce planter sized fish. This goes for big game also, it seems like alot of real good country only produces smaller animals. With the exception of limited entry tags. We can we do as hunters to get some changes made?

Foreman4x4 · Aug 6, 2008

LAST EDITED ON Aug-06-08 AT 11:16AM (MST)[p]The money generated from license sales in Utah goes into the general fund, not specifically to wildlife. It pays for roads, schools, salaraies, you name it. That's why you'll never see significant license cuts and/or closures even when it's called for, because they can't afford to lose the revenue.

ColoradoOak · Aug 6, 2008

> Why does Utah's officers
>have to have the Brand
>New Ones every year?

Brand new ones every year? Is that a fact, or made up BS?

deerhuntr4885 · Aug 6, 2008

That is made up BS. They get new trucks about every three to four years. Sometimes longer. You have to remember that they drive ALOT of hard miles on those trucks and they drive 8-10 hours a day. That is alot of driving on rough roads.

Mike Henne

Packout · Aug 6, 2008

Forman- take a look at the following site and read for yourself where License Monies go and how the UDWR is funded.

http://wildlife.utah.gov/about/funding.php

As for trucks, I doubt the UDWR is buying a new fleet every year.

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woodruffhunter · Aug 6, 2008

This "new" vehicle has been an urban legend for as long as I can remember. They probably, as a previous post mentioned, get a new vehicle every few years.

What other government agency doesn't? I could hardly see justifying an organization driving around in the back country with an old, ready to die, 1980 Dodge Ram.

If you owned a business, would you want your employee driving
up to a customers house in some rusted out Volkswagon?

Daxter · Aug 6, 2008

A group of accountants sat down and looked at vehicle depreciation and records of repair costs correlated with vehicle mileage and came up with a mathematical formula to determine from an economic perspective the best mileage to replace trucks. I think they determined it to be something like 80,000 miles for gasoline engine trucks. So when a state truck has 80,000 miles on it they sell it at the state surplus auction and get a new one. They buy their trucks as fleet vechiles and have negotiated for the best pricing with the truck manufactures. Sometimes they keep old trucks for seasonal employees or other special purposes. I think on average they get new trucks every 3-5 years, depending on the miles that they have.

Foreman4x4 · Aug 6, 2008

Packout,

Thanks for the link. That's complete opposite of what I've always heard/thought. Thanks for setting me straight and it's good information to know.

SneakAttack · Aug 7, 2008

Daxter nailed it. As a State employee for close to 12 yrs now, I've been given charge over only 2 new trucks. 80,000+ they get turned over.

Dax you must be workfor the State also.

Addicted2Racks · Aug 7, 2008

LAST EDITED ON Aug-07-08 AT 09:17AM (MST)[p]I was just curious on this topic. I got some good replies, but all them came to mind before i posted. As outsiders of not working for the state we all assume thats how it works, I mean we all pay taxes too, so its not just tag fees where they get money from. I think buying new vehicles every two years or so depends on who exactly you work for because up north in Box Elder County they buy new vehicles every two years and re-sale them at the yearly auction. The next time you see a state vehicle on the road think about how old or new it may be. All the surrounding states also have long traveling distances. What can we do as residents to help the future of our kids hunting and fishing experiences??