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LAST EDITED ON Sep-18-08 AT 11:23AM (MST)[p]I just got this photo forwarded to me by my son who got it from a friend. He said these two bucks were supposedly hit by a semi-truck near Modena. They don't look very mangled to me. Also, a co-worker saw this photo and claims that the velvet buck looks an aweful lot like the buck he's spent 4 days searching for after a bad arrow hit. His buck was shot further south, but who knows. Another thought is maybe someone found it and moved it to the highway to make it look like it was hit by a truck. The Fish & Game have been contacted, and they're investigating. If you have any information about these two bucks, please contact a game warden and tell them what you know.

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That sucks, nice animals such as these should never get done that way. No way they got hit by a semi, There would have been blood and gore from hell to breakfast allover the highway. Something shady going on here.
 
Those are two giants! What a shame. Seems a little fishy...I also think they'd be pretty bloodied as well as maybe some broken antlers?

Steve
 
there is no way that the velvet buck isnt scratched up alittle his velvet looks perfect from that pic. I agree there is somethin a little odd about this one.
 
antlerquest, why don't you think this is near Modena? Do you have information you would like to share?
 
Smells fishy!!! No matter what, it's a shame that two bucks of that quility are rotten on the side of the road!!!
 
Someone has got to have some info on these deer. I have heard from diffent sources that the word about these bucks is spreading like wild fire. Someone has got to know something.

I agree, Something just aint right about this.


Jeff
 
modena huh? well wrong state they are nevada bucks and were hit almost two weeks ago. both nice bucks got them both on video and still shots two days before they were hit. as far as fish and game piss on them guys they know about them gettin hit and thats all they need to know. the bucks are just south of eureka nevada off of highway 50. too bad they had to end like this i was lookin forward to watchin my brother sling some lead at them.
 
nevadakid, thanks for clearing this up a little bit for us.

I'm still wondering how they avoided being mangled. Also, in the picture, the hard horned buck looks like it has a hole behind the shoulder. I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like to me.

I'm not sure what you mean by this comment:
"as far as the fish and game, piss on them guys. They know about them gettin hit and that's all they need to know".

That doesn't make any sense. They need to know everything regarding this incident. The more they know, the better.
 
I agree with Nevadakid. I've also seen these bucks in person prior to them getting hit. The game warden is causing a stink about them and is basically threatening people to give him info. People that have nothing to do with the bucks, the incident or anything at all. Just had the picture forwarded the same way all of you did. I'm usually for helping the fish and game any chance I get, but when they start throwing threats around they start losing help really quick!!!!
 
Oh, come on Jaws. That's rediculous. Game wardens don't throw threats around unless they have some evidence to back it up. If people would help out with information, they could get to the bottom of this thing. But when people clam up, it starts looking like they had something to do with it. There are a few things about this photo that are suspicious, and the game wardens need to do their job to find out the truth. Anybody that knows something about this incident should spill the beans.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-19-08 AT 03:32PM (MST)[p]the hard horned buck had a couple cheaters more than you can see in this photo and they were broke off when the vehicle hit them. there is nothing fishy with these bucks just odd that they got hit together, and yes the wardens are throwing threats around cause they are pissed some passer by cut the horns off before they could get to them. so now they are trying to strong arm some of the first people that received the photos. so yes piss on them.
 
Kid, Now I understand why you have a bad attitude about the Fish & Game. They're bugging you because you're trying to protect a criminal. You're going to get in trouble too if you don't fess up.

Bad form.
 
In my experience it is always the "highly innocent" that are easily offended when obstruction of justice charges are looming.
 
I don't know about nevadakid but I don't know who has the horns. I do know people that have been threatened about this and they don't know who has them either. Nothing fishy here. If you enhance the photos you can see that the hair is rubbed off in several places from being hit.

I don't know of many people that would drive past these monsters without cutting the heads off. Not any different than finding a lion kill.
 
You can't pick up a fresh "LION KILL", unless you get the O.K. from the Fish & Game after an investigation - at least that's how it is here in Utah.
 
I realize that you can't legally pick them up. My point is that those horns could be anywhere by now. The guy that took the picture didn't pic up the horns. That's the only for sure thing that I know.
 
It looks like the smaller one has a bullet hole behind the shoulder, maybe that is just the way the hair looks. In Idaho a guy can keep the head on a lion kill. You can't keep the head on one hit by a car. The deer has to die from natural causes. I don't know how Nevada rolls with this. Good looking bucks. Ron
 
I think something is definatly fishy with nevadakid and steeljaws first off nevadakid says that these bucks are not near modena when that actually are near modena. I have heard from a really reliable source that they seen the bucks laying on the side of the road near modena. So it sounds like to me nevadakid is trying to cover something up.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-21-08 AT 09:07PM (MST)[p]the landscape in the back ground is very recognizable i drive by it about every weekend and that is about 2 maybe 3 miles east of modena.
 
I'd like to see the live photos of these bucks. Post some pics if you really have them
 
Modena my rear end. Take a good look at the photo, the kid and jaws are both right, they are no where near modena. I have seen the kids photos and they are legit. The game warden is a green horn and is wasting his time when he should be frying bigger fish. kudos to who cut those heads off, god knows that I would have. But really I am amazed of the igornace of some that think it is Modena. Is there even any deer of this caliber left in Utah?
 
Yes you are right HUNTINFORLIFE. And for you jackrussel apparently you are in on whatever jaws and nevada kid know. I work for the railroad and am down that canyon on trains and in trucks on the highway every day and see some monster bucks so yes there is still bucks like that in utah. And yes the bucks are near modena i know this for a fact.
 
Pauns you are FOS. They are no where near Modena this I know because I have seen the carcasses and they aren't even close to Modena. The kid and jaws are in on nothing, just trying to shed some light on the situation that you have gotton all wrong. Maybe the buck was at zane or maybe even lund?
 
By the way Pauns, that canyon you are refering to, that the trains go down is in Nevada and not Utah. Maybe you should get Uncle Pete to put up signs marking the state line like they do on the highways so you will know when you enter one state and leave another. Typical hoghead!
 
The three of you nevada boys are acting real conspicuous. The odds of two high caliber bucks getting hit simultaneously by a
semi and being in the condition there in is zero. I witnessed a semi hit a deer recently by koosharem ut. at 35 mph during a rain
storm and literally mangled it up. So I guess what Im saying is
this is all premeditated activity w/o the use of a semi truck. For those who are involved I,ll be optimistic that the authorities hammer you all. Good luck on continueing the semi cover up because it,s B...S... Someone just wants attention and well, they got it.
 
I dont know whether they were hit by car or truck. maybe you should contact highway patrol and inquire about this. The fact is that they were hit, there are no bullet holes or anything else for that matter. It was a tragic loss of life for these two fine bucks, but that it happens every day along our nations highways, some have alot of carnage and some look like nothing happend at all. It is the same for people in car accidents, some recieve alot of visable trauma and some look like nothing at all happened. The results are the same on both counts, they are dead. I have look the headless animals over and found nothing out of the ordinary, they were hit by some type of vehicle.
 
they were hit by one of them canadian semi's..... the one's that don't leave marks because of them rubber bumpers thingy's!
rm
 
pauns you are out of your mind them bucks were nowhere near modena. maybe you should look at the vegetation and it looks nothing like modena so if you know this for a fact well you have been bamboozeled by your good source. and for you who think us nevada guys are covering something up you all are full of ##### i have nothing to hide. maybe you all should quit listening to all your buddys who live the dream through this internet site and listen to us who live it in the field everyday.
 
Regardless of what happened and happens, I hope the fish cop finds the person that cut off those heads and prosecutes the F&ck out of them.
 
Your hostility to the local game warden is the main thing that is making you look bad right now. If you were a little more cooperative and maybe even try to HELP with the investigation, you would look a lot more like a law abiding sportsman trying to do the right thing. You may not know much about this incident, but you should still help out law enforcement in every way possible.
 
dleonard3 hit the nail on the head. For myself I am out in the field 120 days or more a year. Recently I had three of my 7 trail cams stolen, and I know that other outfitters have had the same problem. But together as sportsmen we can make a diffrence in preventing and solving these kinduv issues. We cant just rely
on the DWR there a limited source of help. I on occasion help the DWR make a blue print of water catchment systems and I commend the DWR,s time and efforts in the field.
So too degrade the DWR your not a respectful sportsman.
 
my e-mail said they were killed on caliente summit (nv). either or there will be a pick order from ndot at either caliente or eureka nhp or dot stations.







Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics....even if you win, your still tared....
 
Regardless where these animals were killed, the game warden needs to make better use of his time by working the state line area and keeping those buggars from Utah from hunting in Nevada, which happens every year. This is more damaging to wildlife than worring about who cut the heads off a couple of roadkill. True game violations is where his efforts should be directed. It is because of his antics that people like myself, the kid and jaws get frustrated with the system. It creates an unwillingness to want to help in situations like this. I see it way to many times that they aren't true in their actions in a major viloation, and an offender gets off scott free or with just a slap on the hand. Yet in some instance like this they get their panties in a wad and want someones head. This is the reason for my attitude towards fish and game, not because there is something to hide.
 
ALL Game law violations should be reported. How can you pick and choose which laws you will obey, and which ones you'll ignore? Someone taking the heads off of roadkills is a violation of the law just as much as hunting outside of unit boundries. Don't pick and choose, turn in all violations and help the officers with any information you might have to keep people honest and within the law. They're not going to hang the perpetrators, they might get a citation and a fine.

Cooperate, and you will be appreciated....but don't cooperate, and you will rightly be treated as an accomplice.
 
Its not picking and choosing, cutting the head off of a roadkill is not a violation. The warden just wants it for his collection. Not a crime.
 
WOW, I have been gone for a couple of days and I Come back to read this post and I cant believe how INSANE some of you boys are.



Jeff
 
Really? It's not a violation? How could it be legal to possess the fresh head of a big game animal without the required tags, during a hunting season???

Heck, I think almost anybody could get away with that one. Shoot some big bucks, throw them out on the highway late at night and run over them. If you can get that far, then they're called roadkill, so you can cut their heads off and keep them and the Game wardens can't do anything about it, 'cause it's perfectly legal.
 
Like I said earlier, there are not bullet holes or bullets, there is no question that they got hit by a vehicle. If they were shot, then no you could not possess the head and be legal. Would be no different than finding one stuck in a fence or two that had gotton their horns locked and died. These happen and are quite frequent, as sad as it may be. Even train kills get their heads cut off, not against the law. Check with mr warden.
 
Once their heads are cut off, how can you tell if they were shot, or hit by a truck?

jackrussel, I think YOU should check with Mr. Warden. Go ahead and ask him about all the things that have been suggested in this thread, and weather or not they are legal in Nevada. In fact, I think I'll go ahead and forward him a link to this thread and see what he says. Do you know Mr. Warden's email address?
 
I'll repeat my previous post.

NVkid, jaws, & jackrussel,

If you know so much about these bucks and where they lived, and how they died, and what they ate, and how many cheaters were broken off, and where your brother was going to shoot one, post a photo. Prove to us they were hit near Eureka, not Caliente, and not Modena. Did the big mean game warden threaten to take away your birthday or what?
 
I agree. Rather than all the name calling and finger pointing, post the pictures. Put a water mark on 'em first if you don't someone hijacking them. But post 'em up. I'm beginning to doubt the entire story. First it's Modena, then no, south of Eureka on 50 (?), then Caliente. At least one of you guys is from Caliente. Now you post a panaca.net email for a warden (pretty sure it's not real). It's quite a ways from "south of Eureka on 50" to Caliente. Come on boys, man up, if you have nothing to hide post the pictures?
 
Check out the thread MODENA GHOST. That is where you will find the pics. Just south of BERYL
 
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LAST EDITED ON Sep-22-08 AT 09:47PM (MST)[p]I think that middlehoof should add to his menu. Something that smelled a little fishy or a little warden hatred to the weekly special. Great menu!

All I can say is that I was along Hwy 50 near Eureka this weekend and looked at some areas along the Hwy with this post in mind and I could not place the picture there.

I am taking to over on near Caliente.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-22-08 AT 10:54PM (MST)[p]Pauns you are a fraud. You havent worked the modena area for quite some time. Maybe helper/price area is where you seen those bucks. Get with the program you over zealous hoghead. Are you by chance form the Delta area?. Bryce Ashby would be ashamed of your baffoonary!







Long live the Modena Ghost's
 
dont you think it might depend on how fast the truck may have been traveling and where it hit them???

i watched a doe get hit by a semi right in front of me on a hiway in oregon. Couldnt even really tell what happened except i watched the whole thing.
 
Who are you jackrussel? The only thing i heard is a reliable railroad source knows where the heads are. You are right i havent worked down that canyon for quite some time i am up near helper. And im a conductor not a hoghead lol
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-23-08 AT 11:55PM (MST)[p]I am the Modena Ghost!


The name is Lou Bowman.
 
Kind of funny that you say without question they were not hit by Modena, yet when you post up pics of these bucks you call them the "Modena Ghosts!"


Whats up with that.



Jeff
 
You will have to ask Pauns, he seems to have all the answers in regards to these bucks. Sounds as if he knows someone who has seen them. However he has not worked that canyon for quite some time now, so I would say that he is either full of hot air or has inhaled too much of that diesel smoke from the ol Ironhorse.
 
I am not asking Pauns, I dont care about him. YOU are the one that posted up the pics and are talking so much and know so much about these bucks. I am asking you, JACK.

Whats the story on the name?



Jeff
 
I did not post the pics. Yes I know very well about the bucks. Pauns and others claimed that they were at Modena, when in fact they are no where near there. So when the kid posted the pics he named them the modena ghost. That is the story behind the name.
 
>I am not asking Pauns, I
>dont care about him. YOU
>are the one that posted
>up the pics and are
>talking so much and know
>so much about these bucks.
>I am asking you, JACK.
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>
>Whats the story on the name?
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>
>
>
>Jeff

the story on the name is the deer were not killed near modena but so many of you tards seem to have buddies that seen them there and have such good sources that in fact what they seen were the modena ghosts do you understand now jeff or do we have to resort to drawing you a picture to help explain
 
Just a thought, did it ever dawn on you Nevadtards that maybe some one wanted all the hunters to congregate "near" Modena, as opposed to in your back yards?

It takes all kinds in this world.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-24-08 AT 03:20PM (MST)[p]>Just a thought, did it ever
>dawn on you Nevadtards that
>maybe some one wanted all
>the hunters to congregate "near"
>Modena, as opposed to in
>your back yards?
>
>It takes all kinds in this
>world.


Nevadtard? Doesn't make sense, but Utards. Perfect sense!
 
Just a question. Is it possible that these bucks were hit right on the state line between Modena and Panaca. Thus the Name of "Modena Ghosts" and people saying that they were hit by Modena, and yet NDOT has the heads because they were in NV.

Just looking at the terrain on Google Earth and if you look at the stateline from just inside Nevada, and look east into Utah it sure looks like the same mountain standing up in the background and the same kind of terrain.

Just a question.



Jeff
 
I asked if these bucks could have been hit over on the state line between Modena and Panaca because that is where the photo looks like to me. That would also be reason for the name "Modena Ghosts"

You then replied Mr. Rowe?

I then asked you who Mr. Rowe was and you did not respond.

Just wondering who Mr. Rowe is and why you were questioning him?



Jeff
 
Thanks MortgageMan,


Nobody answered my question, Could it be that these bucks were hit on the road between Modena and Panaca? Sure looks like the terrain off of Google Earth.



Jeff
 
far cry from any of the country between panaca and modena the bucks were not killed anywhere near the highway 56 ut, or the nv state route 319. but then again google earth would not lie.
 

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