Last hurrah for deer!

swbuckmaster

Long Time Member
Messages
5,004
LAST EDITED ON Dec-04-08 AT 05:31PM (MST)[p]Well Jerry Slaugh, Phil Olden, and I went out on the last Friday and Saturday of the season for deer.

Jerry?s standards were set on taking a mature 4 point, and Phil was set on taking anything that moves.

Let me explain Phil?s situation. This was Phil?s first year bow hunting and 5 year hunting without seeing a single buck during the hunting season. Phil had been practicing near my house and was having a few problems getting his arrows to hit the target. I took him under my wing and showed him a few pointers. I even asked him to go scouting with me. I guaranteed him we would see a buck. Well after 6.5 miles of hiking one way I never did get to show him a buck. I was beginning to think he might be the anti deer. How could anyone have that much bad luck? I continued to tell Phil where all my best hunting spots were and actually took him on a few hikes. Every time he went out he didn't see a single deer. Phil was getting discouraged but wasn?t going to quit. I invited him on the last day of the season for one more shot at filling his tag.

Well Phil finally tagged a buck on the third to last day. It was a 2x3. Good Job Phil!

I don't have any pictures of Phil yet because he had to get off the hill around noon and Jerry and I we were staying the night.

We used adamsoa?s here on mm and my pack goats to get everything in. The one carring the red packs weighs about 220lbs, the one with the green packs will get around 250lbs. The one with the green packs is just a baby and this was his first hike ever.

Here are a few pictures going in.
november292008deerhuntwithgoats003.jpg

november292008deerhuntwithgoats005.jpg

november292008deerhuntwithgoats016.jpg


Did you notice we arent using lead ropes? The red saddle and packs is 53 lbs and the green one was 42 lbs. These goats packed them around 8 miles and most of it was through scrub oak.

november292008deerhuntwithgoats017.jpg



Our hunt almost ended on Friday night when Jerry hit a 6 point bull at 40 yards. We have never seen an elk in this area until this day. It was really windy and we were sitting behind a big rock out of the wind when the bull presented us with a shot. Jerry forgot to compensate for the wind. The shot ended up 10? forward of where Jerry wanted it to go. The bull ran about 4 miles east into alpine. We called Scott White with the Fish and game and asked about the rules on retrieving a bull that had gone out of bounds. He said we could retrieve it if it was dead but not kill it if it was still alive. They would then go with us to the place we hit the elk and prove it was legal. Well jerry and I spent the next two days tracking the bull. We have still haven't seen it. However Jerry talked to a property owner which had quite a few cow tags and he told us he would find it for us. Jerry has been going up every night looking at the elk herds and still hasn't seen the bull. Well the property owner said he saw the bull tonight and it is still alive and appears to be acting just like a normal elk. We will keep an eye on it.


The hunts only bad point was not getting the chance to add the elk to these pictures.

Here are a few pictures of our camp.
november292008deerhuntwithgoats012.jpg

november292008deerhuntwithgoats008.jpg

november292008deerhuntwithgoats006.jpg




We used the Clark Jungle Hammocks on this trip. These things are awesome! We have stayed numerous times in them in November and they have always worked like a champ. However this was the worst situation we have had while using them. The wind blew about 30 mph all night long. There was a foot of snow on the trail coming in and it was below freezing because my water in my back pack froze.

?AWESOME TIP!!!?
Here is a great tip that could save you life some day. I was kind of worried I would get cold in the night so I took a large water bottle and boiled some water and put it into the bottom of my sleeping bag. This way I wouldn't have to get into a cold sleeping bag. Well it was so nice I just left it there. The bottle kept me actually hot all night long.







Archery is a year round commitment!!
 
Looks like you guys had fun. Those goats look like the way to go. I wish I had a few of them in the Ruby Mountains this summer.
To bad about the bull. Was it a big one? We went up today and saw about a 310-320 bull. He was all alone but we could only get about 130 yards from him before he bolted. We also saw about 30-40 cows and a couple spikes. Long steep hike but still lots of fun.

www.basinarcheryshop.com
 
Now those are some real deer hunters! Makes my September backpack trip look like an expedition for sissys.

The Christian
 
That's awesome.... Great dedication and going that extra length to try and make it happen.... It's inspiring! Way to go and thanks for the great story!
 
You can have them anywhere dogs/ horses are permitted.

What do who or "they" think of llamas? I am not sure I understand the question.

Goats don't care about Lamas
Cops, Feds, Dwr don't care if lamas are in areas where pack stock is aloud either. Does that answer your question?




Archery is a year round commitment!!
 
Chris,

Not all the wasatch front is considered watershed.

Great pic's Scott. Sorry to hear about Jerry losing that bull. Sounds like he will survive to be hunted another day.

Good luck, only a few days left!

Chad
 
Where did you tie your goats up a night? I wonder what would of happened if a Rocky Bighorn would have wondered into camp at night and nosed up to those goats!!!!!Oh well, guess the whole Wasatch sheep heard is almost wiped out any way.
 
mulemanrack
There are no sheep in this area and there has never been sheep in this area. There is a big difference in a couple of goats hiking on a trail and having a 1000 or more living on the mountain in the same area for an extended period of time like what happened in Provo canyon. My goats never left my side. My goats get a vet check twice a year. My goats were also tied up right next to my hammock all night long.

I can tell by your screen name what you think of my goats.

I can also tell you I use mules and they both have a proper place in hunting. Goats are very effective. They are the best decoy for mule deer I know of. They get it done when packing deer out. If we would have killed the elk we would have had mules coming in because I had already made arrangements that morning.

I have an open mind when it comes to hunting. I use every tool in the book to my advantage. Here are a few more pictures

2006utahmuledeerhunt027.jpg


3pointandgoats019.jpg


Lizzardlake5milehikejune272005018.jpg


I used goats while scouting for this buck and made a phone call when I killed it. If I would have had my goats with me I would have used them to get it out. When dealing with elk we have always used mules for packing. But we use goats while hunting them.

I have only hunted spike elk once and it was an archery hunt. That year we just walked up to the herd bull while he was bugling to a close 15 yards with his cows. If they weren't so bunched up I might have gotten a shot at one of the spikes.

b98ee61d.jpg


In hind sight I should have just shot one of the cows.
to me now there is no difference in a spike and a cow.

Archery is a year round commitment!!
 
SW

I am with you on the goat issue. They definitely have their place and can be quite effective. Especially in very steep and rugged terrain.

Here are a couple of pics from the Uintas.

493c4bd07a1665a5.jpg


493c4bfb7a952003.jpg


493c4c1b7c2fcb6c.jpg


If you need any additional pack gear PM me. I have six saddles and some nice panniers I could get rid of. Someday I will get back into the goat pack thing. It is a blast.
 
Easy swbuckmaster.........
I didn't mean to strike a nerve. All I was doing was inquiring. I thought you said you were hunting up by Alpine and I'm pretty sure I've seen some sheep up that way. I apologize if I misunderstood. All I know is the fish and game biologist told us that all it would take is for one Rocky to come in contact with a domestic sheep or goat and it could wipe out a whole herd of Rocky Bighorns. Seems like that is the case on the Wasatch.
I appreciate the twice a year vet checks....Thanks. And from one mule rider to the next......I'll bet that looks like quite the "Gypsy Caravan" coming down the trail......a man riding one of those big headed, long eared animals with a pack string of goats. LOL. (I've also heard all the mule jokes from my horse riding buddies.)
No hard feelings swbuckmaster.........I'm a 3/4 slammer only needing my Rocky to complete my slam. I just hated to see the Wasatch Rocky Sheep herd wiped out after so much time and money went in to getting this herd established.
For what it's worth.....I like your mule and mule deer pic.
Rack
 
I feel terrible about the elk, it will be a pit in my stomach for the rest of my life. I practice year round for one opportunity at an animal and I want to be able to make it count. I can't explain what exactly happened but I truly hope it just cut him and didn't catch any thing vital. I have bowhunted since I was 14 years old (I am now 35) and up until last year I have never lost an animal I have hit. I makes me feel terrible. Outside of that the hunt was absolutely awesome. Scott is like my brother and we know how to have one hell of hunt.
 
OK this is my first time making my statement on this site. I have been looking at and reading comments for over a year but enough is enough. why is it that everyone on here likes to break anothers balls? it seems like everyone likes to be a "one up" kind of guy. who cares if you are a 3/4 slam guy. i dont. the poster was just trying to share a story with us and a good one at that. leave it be. no one cares if your worried about scabies from his goat, whether or not his goats have been inspected or if you shot your bighorn. why do you have to put your comment about if he is breaking the law by having a couple pack goats? are you going to arrest him? didnt think so.
 
Super cool hunt!
That one goat looks like a persian ibex. Can I come up there and shoot him? LOL

No offense, but that just looks down right hilarious all those little guys carrying your junk up those hills.
By the way; Slamdunk is in love with the goat in the 3rd pic from the top. You better watch slam and not tell him where you keep them goats.
 
Right on wil, I barely post on this site because of the people on here, some need to get a life.
Looks like your trip was adventuresome, cool pics. I have a 400" bull lol
 
>Where did you tie your goats
>up a night? I wonder
>what would of happened if
>a Rocky Bighorn would have
>wondered into camp at night
>and nosed up to those
>goats!!!!!Oh well, guess the whole
>Wasatch sheep heard is almost
>wiped out any way.


I can show you a lot of recent University studies that shoot that theory down.
 
I also use the Clark NA hammock. Please tell me what rate and fill of bag you used, any underpad? and how cold it got at night to your best recollection. I used a 20 degree synth bag and a thermorest in the high 20's and was just fine.
 
I used a 0 degree synthetic bag made by ledge, bought it for 30 dollars at the sportsman expo. I used a fleece blanket under my bag and a fleece blanket over my bag and I slept in my cold gear under armour, socks and the fleece mask. Just guessing on temperature I would say it got down to low teens to single digits with the wind chill, it was cold and I was nervous but slept very well. We went to bed at 7:00 and and woke up at 7:00 in the morning. It was very nice.
 
I was using a -20 degree bag from Wal-Mart and a heavy blanket. I have never slept in cold weather like this so I was worried about freezing to death.

I also didn't want to get dressed in the morning if I was cold so I changed into new clothes and put on a new coat and wore it in my sleeping bag. I also put a boiling hot water bottle in my bag before I got in. I was so hot I unzipped my bag and slept on top.



Archery is a year round commitment!!
 
You guys are one tough hunters, I love the goats, i bet that is fun as hell. Man i'm jealous, if you ever need anybody to come feed and take care of the goats i'm in. Cute little suckers to.
Nice buck. congrats
 

Click-a-Pic ... Details & Bigger Photos
Back
Top Bottom