What did I do wrong in my mule deer hunt?

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This year I decided to break from my normal habit of Turkey hunting and go for a mule deer. I didnt get my first choice on the draw but managed to get a decent GMU in leftovers in Colorado for muzzleloading season. The GMU was at 10,400 feet in a forrest of mixed pine and aspen, not known for being packed with deer but mule deer can be found all over colorado.

We started by scouting out, basically driving around looking at different areas and trying to find deer sign. We saw some old and some new deer sign and found a spot where access to water was limited to comming down and drinking in the creek. We also found some of what we thought were scrapes but was later told that might be porcupine eating the bark instead. Finally we found some clear signs of deer scat and checked the pellets for hardness to determine freshness.

After deciging on the area, we planned the camp, backpacked in to about 1/4 mile of the main deer sign and set up camp. After some sleep we decide to set out in search of deer at 5:30 in the morning, being in our chosen position before shooting light.

About 1.5 hours after sitting near a clump of trees overlooking a field, my son spotted a fairly large buck behind us. As he is only 13 I had to confirm the size for legality and just got my eyes on him (5x4) and whoosh ... he was off like a soundless lightning bolt. We never heard him approach and despite his speed leaving, we didnt hear a sound. It was uncanny. We tracked his direction for a half hour or so but it was clear he wasnt going to stop in the dense forrest and our opportunity was lost.

The evening we set up on the same trail but now in the woods instead of near the open clearing and waited for 2 hours or more. The mule deer came just before shooting light was over and there were 4 does and a buck. They were so close to us they nearly ran us over but when we tried to aim for a shot, they all bolted letting out a shreik fit for a dinosaur and bounding up the ridge.

That was pretty much all the deer we saw (though we were treated to the sight of two cow moose at less than 50 yards) but each successive day comming back to these spots produced absolutely nothing. We even tried buildign a blind of cut pine boughs in a cluster of trees and nothing showed up.

Now I am looking back on the hunt and wondering what I did wrong. I dont have anyone to teach me to hunt mule deer so I depend on you all. In my second set up was I too close to the game trail and should have backed off? Was there some way to know of the buck behind us before it was too late? They were absolutely ghosts. One moment they werent there and the next my eagle eyed son spotted them.

Could I track them back? When I went up what I thought was the game trail I found large amounts of sign such as a soft spot under a pine with tons of hoof tracks and what seemed like a bed with scat all over the place. Would it have been better to set up in that spot?

When they got scared off should i have given up that trail and looked elsewhere? Should I heve set up on some known game trails in the area instead?

Any advice is welcome.
 
There is a reason why it's called hunting right? Sounds like you were in a good area but things just didn't work out. It happens to us all. Depending upon how spooked the deer were they may have come back but it sounds like you spooked them twice they may have moved out for a little while. You could always move to a different drainage and search for more deer. Where there are a few there are usually more.
 
I think you would be much better off with the spot and stalk method. Find a high point where you can glass with the grain of the land and pick apart the country slow and methodically. You will need a good spotting scope and binos and some patience but I think that is your best bet. Once you find the deer you want then you plan your stalk. This is a very brief explanation of it but that is my suggestion.
Also it sounds like you are trying to hunt them like you would hunt whitetails which just doesn't work in the big country of the west.
Great job getting your son out with you though!

Hunting is my way of life
Sgt. Petersen
USMC OIF OEF Vet.
 
Possably the wind changed just as you spotted them and they smelled you. Once they get a scent of something not normal they are gone. Doesnt sound to me like you did anything very "wrong"... There are tons of things to consider when you are out there . Always keep in mind the direction of the wind and where you think the animals are going to be coming from. Also always use the surroundings to your benefit. It is hard for a deer to make out your shape if you are still and your outline is broken up.
 
Did you expect them to be less weary than they where?

The reason I ask is the 2 times I've hunted mule deer with men that have only hunted whitetails they seem surprised by the hunt.

Their impression seemed to be that mule deer stand there like a cow waiting to be shot.

It sounds like you had a good hunt though. Getting that close to em is always cool.
 
Check your wind, wind, wind! The reason they bolted is either noise or they winded you. If you were quiet I bet the wind swirled. It does'nt take a big breeze to carry your scent a long way.
 
Chasing deer that have already spotted you is 98% futile.

They will constantly be looking over their shoulder and ANYTHING they see out of normal will REALLY get them running.

Sometimes we just ain't lucky.

I agree with the others, the wind probably messed up your hunt.
 
You overhunted your primary spot.

Deer are pretty smart. Your best chance for a mature buck is the first time you set foot in the area. Each successive time, you leave more scent and the deer figure out quickly to avoid the area.

Next year, mix it up with at least 3 spots.
 
well we did check the wind but perhaps it swirled at the last minute in the timber. The second set parctically ran us over before spooking so I dont know how we could have gotten closer. They just didnt present a shot. Perhaps I need to recon more than one trail. I am going to work on my tracking skills.
 
Forget tracking skills. It takes years and tons of practice to be a good enough tracker to really use it effectively for mule deer hunting. Not many people do it. Hunt different areas on different days. Forget about hunting trails. You need to get to where you can see(preferably up high)and use your binoculars to find the deer. It is called spot and stalk. If you are really desperate you can try a technique called brushing. You basically send someone through the cover to scare them out and hope they run by where you are posted(higher ground, bluff, saddle, etc. Not nearly as effective as spot and stalk(your best option in MHO).

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Get away from the trail out to a hundred yards if possible. Get behind brush so they cannot see your movements. And try to find several places or trails to hunt. Also as stated above, try spot and stalk. Get above tree line and use bino's and spotting scope to find the deer. Watch them until they go to bed, hopefully in some shade under a rock overhang or under a tree where you can see them. Then stalk in close and seal the deal. fatrooster.
 
Whuy forget tracking skills ? Not always can you get up high and have deer run in front of you and not everyone has access to a private ranch with high fenced in deer. Nor do I believe creating food plots next to deer stands is sporting. I think that 99% of outdoor channel shows are ##### and dont show what regular people have to go through. I have only a couple GMUs to choose from and life isn't ideal. When I cant get up high or when I get up high and see nothing because deer are in the forrest, then I need another plan.

If I wanted meat in the freezer, I would go to the grocery store. If I wanted a trophy I would join a bowling league. I want the challenge of tracking and stalking a deer. I got really really close this time and now people are telling me my methods were #####? Some people have given good hints and thanks for that but saying "throw out all you have done and start over X way is not exactly productive.
 
Yeah you are confirming what I thought about being too close to the trail. I needed to back off the spot a bit. As for above tree line, that wouldnt do ##### as the deer are in the timber and you wouldnt be able to see them from up high.
 
"The GMU was at 10,400 feet in a forrest of mixed pine and aspen, not known for being packed with deer....."

If you're trying to sneek up on deer in the thick pine and aspen you have a tough row to hoe. Trying to track one is impossible. To just go in there and sit hoping somethig moves into you during shooting hours, is tougher yet IMO.

Deer in the thick stuff are usually bedded and will need to get up and move to better feed, usually along the edges of the thick stuff. Try to find an edge, get somewhere you can see as much as possible, glass, wait for them to move and do the spot and stalk.

Eel

Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
 
I agree with most, and spot and stalkings is your first and primary means (if possible). However, do what you love! Best to glass as the sun is coming up to catch them heading to their beds from feeding. After hours of glassing under your belt, you can even begin to spot them bedded down, but even the best glasser won't glass up a concealed buck bedded. I'll usually glass the morning and if something doesn't present itself, I LOVE to track! Typically, I will go outside of my primary hunting area so that I don't spook my primary spot for future glassing. I'll try and cut a fresh track and off I go. Granted, more often than not, you will end up jumping the buck and never see him, but those few times you don't, are what memories are made of! Don't "forget about it" because during the middle of the day, sometimes you just don't have the choice. Country is also a determining factor for tracking. If it is a thicker foilage and harder ground, sometimes it may not be the easiest thing to track, but if the terrain is giving the green light and you've already glassed, why not! I shot a 9x7 that went 215" when I was 15 yrs old. Cut a fresh track at noon and got on it. Tracked it for almost 2 hours before I came on him, at which point I did jump him and caught a glimpse. I didn't give up though and stayed with it for over another hour when I finally caught up with him and the rest is one of my best memories. I tracked and stalked my first whitetail archery hunting 2 yrs ago that went over 150"s. I missed on a monster muley a few years back after I cut a fresh track on got on it. Missed him at 100 yds with the muzzleloader! Oh well, but I'll never give up the memory!

So overall, keep at it. If you like to track, don't stop. You don't get any better at it unless you do it! Before you do though, glass, glass, glass is my best advise!
 
If you are offended by the advice then don't ask. I have thirty yrs of mule deer hunting experience and have been lucky enough to kill some big bucks and plenty of smaller ones. I have NEVER hunted high fenced, private land, food plots, etc. Even with fresh snow, being successful at tracking is difficult at best. Good luck.

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Everyone gave you some pretty good advice...Welcome to the Muledeer world there is a reason we are all addicts. I am a pretty decent tracker sometimes you can keep tracking them if they havnt winded you...as stated they prob did...Sometimes you will track the animal good tracks and it just disapears...there is alot of learning involved and you gotta be humble enough to listen when advice is given without taking offense


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