Antelope Island Deer Hunt

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It looks like the Budget Bill that had the Antelope Island deer and sheep hunting stuff in it passed. So, someone is going to get to hunt a big buck out there. It'll be interesting to see how it's all put together. I assume there will be an auction tag for this fall. I wonder if it'll be a 5-7 day hunt or a 4 month hunt? How many guides will be out there on foot or flying around? How big of a buck will the rich guy get? There's got to be a 240+ buck out there about every year. How much will the tag sell for? Any guesses? Season length will probably dictate price.

Brian Latturner
MonsterMuleys.com
 
That will be a blast to watch...I hope it goes through for real. If done properly it should be a win for all parties. I think its an excellent idea when managed correctly.
 
I can just waiting to see who pays the big bucks. It would be awesome if they filmed it for everyone else to see. I don't know the caliber of bucks on the Island but I would predict well over 200 inches.

Dillon
 
I don't quite understand how Utah's answer to everything in wildlife is to auction the tag to the highest bidder. No wonder you guys have the mess that you have.

Rich
 
Are they just going to auction a tag? Or are they going to have a drawing for some good ol boys too? I know nothing about it, but I say if they auction one tag to the highest bidder there should be a draw for 2 regular tags,

Rub some dirt on it, ya sissy!
 
I want to see if State Parks is naive enough to pay 10% to some group to auction them off. If so I want in on that gig.
 
if the auction one off they should have to give one to the public it should be like the gov tag and the sportsmans tag one auctioned and one to public atleast i think thats how it works
 
Well, if they auction the tag, it should be done by BOTH the DWR and the STATE PARK, 50%/50% split.

NO $FW, NO MDF, NO RMEF, FULL CURL, ......and so on.
KEEP THEM OUT 100%

Then have 1 tag to draw in the normal draw. As far as weapon, I don't know.

No FLYING for sure. LIMIT the guides to 1.

Just my common "cents" worth!
 
Heres my thoughts. Let the DNR have all 4 tags, Let them put them in a draw that the states runs. For $10 a species, everyone can put in. You would get 250,000 aplications at $20 totaling $5,000,000 for the state parks. Who needs a freakin auction.

If they do an auction, the the gov tag holder will also want to hunt it, and so will the sportsmans tag guy. If its all about the money, bag the conservation groups. Keep the money in house.

Personally, I'm still against the hunt.
Yelum
 
+! yellum

"everybody"...including NR's, I'd sure send in $10.

Question, How good would the 5th best muley buck on the Island be cause sure as heck i'd be DIY and couldn't compete with the "crew" picketing a circle of young dudes around the biggest buck until opening day?

Joey
 
Did the bill include a for sure draw tag for sportsmen or is it only a high dollar auction tag???

respect my authorita
 
Don comes on MM to say he nothing to do with the AI hunt, and the next thing you know he's in the paper proposing it? Go figure.
 
Will the record books reconize this hunt I don't think they do on one of Californias Islands kind of like high fence
 
"Will the record books reconize this hunt I don't think they do on one of Californias Islands kind of like high fence"

B&C?? No possibility IMO..
 
No RIFLES! Let the bow guys get these deer. You can hunt that entire island in 2 days. If they do let rifle guys in then give them no more than 3 or 4 days. Give the bow guys a 10 day hunt. Who knows, they may run it like the buff hunts out there where you have a DNR guy go with you and you have to shoot the buck they tell you to shoot.


It's always an adventure!!!
www.awholelottabull.com
 
Who would be proud to shoot a deer out of a petting zoo? This is rediculas and another way for the state to get there money hungry hands on more money that will go to nothing. The head would be nice to have from a buck out there but that isnt a hunt. more of a drive by shooting. Piss pore in my books.
 
Yes, these deer would be recognized by B&C. They are free range deer and can leave the island. I would say there are 2-4 bucks in the 240-260 range. Probably 10-20 buck in the 210-240 range, and another 2 dozen or more in the 190-210. On a two day hunt a rifle hunter could be assured of killing a 220 buck. Not even the Henries can boast such chance.

There are probably 6-10 bucks in the 160-190 range that die each year from getting beat up by a larger buck.

A gov tag hunter hires a guide hoping he can find bim a 230 inch buck some where. The doubt is removed on an island hunt.

Yelum
 
I don't thing the deer will be allowed to be in B&C. The bison on the island can't be entered into B&C, so why would they be able to enter deer or sheep off of there?

SCI is a different story.
 
I don't think a regular draw could generate enough money for them. It would take 25K applicants at 15$ a piece to generate 375K. I dont think there will be that many applicants unless you could put in more than once. And if you can put in more than once there should be a limit.

Just my 2Cents.
 
I like Yelum's idea but theres only one problem

That makes sense and this is in utah.

Ain't going to happen.
 
+1 for Yellum....you hit the nail on the head.


$5,000,000 for wildlife.....wow!

"One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
 
So Styler said this would be "an experiment". What are the parameters of this experiment, and what/who determines if it was a success or a failure?


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A guy from the park came on here a few weeks ago and was saying that AI needed 400K more a year to operate. He was inquiring about landowner tags. Now I don't know if he was insuating AI should recieve tags in this fashion. Obviously it should not because it is a state park. The posts boiled down to AI generating money, not so much creating hunting opportunities.

This will be setup to generate as much money as possible and still get the public to buy in. If it does not include a general draw I would like to see it trashed personally.
 
>Yes, these deer would be recognized
>by B&C. They are
>free range deer and can
>leave the island. I
>would say there are 2-4
>bucks in the 240-260 range.
> Probably 10-20 buck in
>the 210-240 range, and another
>2 dozen or more in
>the 190-210. On
>a two day hunt a
>rifle hunter could be assured
>of killing a 220 buck.
> Not even the Henries
>can boast such chance.
>
>There are probably 6-10 bucks in
>the 160-190 range that die
>each year from getting beat
>up by a larger buck.
>
>
>A gov tag hunter hires a
>guide hoping he can find
>bim a 230 inch buck
>some where. The doubt
>is removed on an island
>hunt.
>
>Yelum


Free to leave is dependent upon water year, lately the island is more of a pennisula. There will be a 40 inch buck killed out there, sad thing is you don't need a rifle or bow, they will come to you if you have some carrots then you can just choke one out. "Your just jealous", this is the usual reply about the selling of our wildlife to the highest bidder, now look, its not the DWR this time, its the legislature, wonder how much they will need next year? Look out black bears at hogle zoo, the state budget is short. This disgusting "hunt" is the conclusion to the "camels nose under the tent" or "slippery slope" argument, we all watched as the state set up CWMU's with all of there liberal seasons and regs for the highest payer(while I wait another 3 years to put in for elk, Dr. Austad and his ilk have hunted every year). We watched recently as $fw got there tags as a fundraiser, we saw a poor elk on the monroe harrased all year, then killed for $175,000, now we can watch as the "mighty" hunter(shooter) kills his big antelope island buck. Shouldn't be hard, you can stand on the road and look east(heres your inside tip so you don't need a guide), the bucks hang out on the waters edge.

God this is sad!!!
 
NO public tag it shouldn't fly. Now if they are going to sell a tag to highest bidder the bidding should start at 400 grand.
Then a public tag goes in the draw for ANYBODY to draw.
Now some-one said that 6-10 Good bucks are killed out there by bigger bucks, If you are having that much rut fighting, maybe the ratio buck to does is off.


"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
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I know they got bigger out there, but here is a group of bucks on AI at about 700 yards.
 
I have often wondered on a hunt like this with only 1 or 2 tags to be auctioned what if a anti hunting group or individual with lots of money bought both tags to keep the animals from being killed. Would Don be happy that so much money was raised or would the next years rules be changed so that the hand picked rich friends could get the tags?
 
I don't think anybody will care if they BUY the tag and pay the right price for it. They are going to use this tag to raise money period. I'm guessing they will take your money or Peta's as long as it in cash. LOL


"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. Does anybody know who is representing the average hunter in all this?

One more question; what are the rules on AI for veiwing the wildlife? Do you have to stay on the roads? Can you use the trails? Can you go off the trails?
 
I thought they ran into legal issues last time they tried this. Isnt it the law, that if you have one auction permit, you must also have one for the public draw? Has this changed?

How big of pronghorn are on the island? Hell, they may as well go for broke and hunt them and sheep too!
 
slcmuley
You can only drive the paved roads, except the west side beach area. There are trails to the frary peak and the west side as well as cenntury peak on the south end.

REDDOG,
Here are a few of the better lopers.

Yelum

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I'm saying that the tag will go for between $150,000 and $175,000. Then, after people see what is killed, there will be 2 tags next year that will go for way more.....
They ought to put some serious restrictions on how this buck is hunted. It'll intersting to see what happens.
 
Doesn't the draw fee mostly or all go to the company that administers the drawing? I guess we could make Nevada more money. They definately love us now.
 
I'm a NR so my opinion may not matter, but how can this be construed as a "hunt". I don't know anything about Utah's problems as mentioned earlier but this sounds downright stupid.

Why can't the average taxpaying, voting Utah sportsman stop this? I'd say to keep track of your local Representatives stand/vote on this bill.

A vote is a powerful tool, but you have to use it correctly. Has everybody forgotten "government for the people, by the people"?

I'm somewhat disgusted that one of these great animals will only go to the highest bidder...it doesn't even resemble ethical. What would hurt if they gave 5 random tags to the residents? From the sound of it, the herd could quite possibly become healthier.

Hell, I'd shoot one of those 6-10 190" bucks that expire from rutting activities!

BTW - how many bucks were in that group pic? I picked out six but I'm sure somebody will tell me there were 13!!! Great pic...especially from 700 yds.

Drew
 
There were 7. You probably missed the one under the big wide 3 pnt. You can see his antlers sticking up above the upper bucks back.

Yelum
 
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Sealer, there wasn't a separate bill for this. It was a line item in the state budget. It's entirely possible that it could've slipped under the public radar in the process.

And, the person pushing this hunt, Mike Styler, isn't an elected official. He holds a position appointed by the Governor. There were legislators promoting the idea, primarily Mike Noel (R) of Kanab.

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Just please hire 2 outside consultants to oversee eachother in a raffle drawing situation.
I don't like hearing, "state run drawing"...make my hair stand up.

Snowman
 
Only Republicans are in office in Utah unless your from Salt Lake County. And by republicans I mean Utah republicans meaning they don't cut spending, they just tax smokers, drinkers to death, OH YEAH and Mulies in a game preserve literally to death. You guys in Idaho, hunting these deer would be like hunting the elk in Bear World, the reason you can see so many cool pics of these deer is because they are half domesticated, high fence hunts would be more fair chase than this!!!
 
drawback,

I thought about that and other dynamics that could be involved with this issue. I knew shortly after I posted I wasn't thorough in my thought process.

I feel that here in CO there are issues that the BGCOM and others can make decisions w/o voter confidence. I still can't understand how those "jokers" get appointed.

I was happy to see that somebody understood where I was coming from and "called" me out eventhough I have no hunting interest in UT.

Drew
 
Glad to see 4th Grade English helped you out.

We won't delve into political science...nice job representing yourself and your state.

Your post was completely senseless. How did the Republicans ruin your life? Have things changed with the current Admin?

BTW - Not a Republican

Drew
 
So, excatly how many tags are we talkn here? Is the average joe gonna get a shot at going out after one of these brutes? What's the real story here? I think there is a lot of this and that going around about this. Id really like to know exactly what is going on.
 
Have not read all the above postes, but only in Utah could something like this happen!How sad!!!!

NVMDF
 
any pictures of some of the 220 plus bucks from there? i would like to know what a buck like that looks like on the hoof.
 

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