I need an answer! utah dwr

bearbone

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OK so i am sitting here looking at monster muleys and watching fox 13 and i hear the lady say " sharp shooters in bountiful are taking out deer that are over populated". Wow first off Utah has a deer heard over populated wouldn't believe that. And second off, the Utah dwr spends thousands of dollars every year transplanting buffalo off the henry's to a new location, and antelope off the Parker to a new location, why are we not transplanting are deer to a new location. State wide deer heards are down but we are going to kill a bunch more. don't get it, don't get it!
 
Not DWR but I might have an answer. Deer are extremely hard to transplant and have them survive. They often starve in the new location and are easy meals for predators. Mule Deer nutrition is a tricky thing and they can starve even eating good food because their guts are tuned to the diet where they came from. If the fish and game moved them, they would just die anyway. I'm not saying it shouldn't be an option though.

The deer in Bountiful are a residential herd that are not hunted (legally). There are too many deer in town. I wouldn't want to be driving in Bountiful and smash a deer in the last place I would expect them. The fish and game are killing does near Vernal though and I don't know why. This hunt is out of town and there can't be too many deer there.

That's my thought whether they are correct or not.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-03-10 AT 09:06PM (MST)[p]Bull ##### try it and see what happens, I am tired of the people that built in their winter range bitchen about my flowers,my trees, my cars hiting them!!!!! Try the the transplants let the DWR,SWF and the Mule deer foundation decide if they will live or not!!!! Edit for bad gramer
 
From what I understand about Mule deer Nebo Bob is right. Deer do not transplant well. They have adapted to an area, or territory if you will. Pick the thing up and fly it to a new location and it is just cougar bait.

I suppose you could transfer them to a relatively low predator area, but then those are not the areas where the population is low.

I personally say we should move to an eastern states method of deer control for the urban population. Allow people to hunt with archery equipment or cross bows within city limits. There are some big bucks in the urban herd, and it seems a waste to me that they should just be shot by "sharp shooters"
 
Buy back the california san rosa island deer that the dumb ass california government or who ever are going to kill that are from the paunsaugunt!!! Look what they could do with utah deer, than just kill off. BS...
 
I have also heard that deer do not transport well. I asked about that when on an antelope capture a couple years ago. I asked a biologist about moving some deer in towns (Lamoille) where they cause problems to areas where the deer could use a boost. He simply said it won't work. Its been tried, and the loss just from the transplant itself is generally in th 80-90% range. Not enough deer left to make a difference, and then also figure that they don't know the travel routes, winter ranges, etc, and it could easily be 100%.

I am not sure whey the deer don't do well, because elk, sheep, and antelope all do well generally speaking.

Later,

Marcial
 
I was told by a big game manager for the DWR that they are just a nervous, high strung animal that just do not do well when captured and restrained.
 
There is a reason you don't see many high fence Muley hunting operations. I am sure there would be a market for big high fence muleys, but they just don't do that well in captivity.

Dax

There is no such thing as a sure thing in trophy mule deer hunting.
 

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