New dedicated hunter duties

featherflipper · Dec 16, 2010

I have been in the dedicated hunter program for the last 6 years. All the service hours I and many of my friends and family have done are not related to helping deer.
I have done many thigs that benifit fish, turkeys and elk.
I want to help out and do something for our deer. I would love to count deer, help catch deer for studies. Maybe even kill coyotes for service hours. It would really be nice to help out one or two specific units we personaly like to hunt. That way we would all enjoy helpng and actually see the benefits.

Bottom line, with all the great ideas floting around this sight why not let the dedicated hunters actually benifit our deer. The deer are the reason most of us are in the dedicated program.
I elk and turky hunt too but I want to help deer.

If the DWR would allow 100+ dedicated hunters count deer on each of the 29 units and turn in the info. that would give us more accurate counts on many issues. Teach us how to trap coyotes and have 100+ DH trap in each unit.

I for one would enjoy many of these duties and feel good about what i'm doing to help. How many of you DH have done duties that benefit things other than deer? How many of you would enjoy counting deer, traping, or other things that would make a big difference to our deer heards?

I think the DWR needs to use the DH's in a diffrent way. Let use help the DWR count deer and do some of the work the DWR should have been doing along time ago. Let us get more involved and help the deer we all love.

Ihuntthereforeiam · Dec 16, 2010

Those are some great ideas, hopefully in the near future the fish and game will pull their heads out. If you can get them talked into it let me know and ill go and kill some coyotes as well.

Shoot em till their dead

AndymanSavage · Dec 16, 2010

Some states back east have an "earn a buck" rule where a hunter has to kill a doe before they are issued a buck tag. Maybe we should do the same thing with coyotes.....

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LOWCOUNTRY · Dec 16, 2010

I agree dedicated hunters should help deer all we can (more than we currently do). Good ideas but the program is probably going to be ran the same. If not im all in.

rydub01 · Dec 16, 2010

Me and my buddy were just talking about this same thing at work the other day. Good call feather flipper.

Deerlove · Dec 16, 2010

I think I'll stick to licken stamps, pulling weeds or handing out procs for my hours. LOL kidden of course

Tworay · Dec 16, 2010

I agree, make us dedicated hunters bring in 3 to 5 yotes before they give us the tag. Also a great idea to use the sportsman to count the deer herds.

jstwnahnt · Dec 16, 2010

I actually wrote and asked them about the coyote idea about 3 weeks ago and have yet too recieve a response back.

swbuckmaster · Dec 16, 2010

Dedicated hunter program is a joke if you ask me. I dont know a single person that has done anything to help the deer. I do know quite a few that do hours at a trout ponds for kids or do various other trout items.

The harder you work the luckier you get!!

tinenut · Dec 17, 2010

Good ideas here, for sure if the program has a future it needs to be used to benefit the deer. I have been in the program for a lot of years, and I don't think I have done any thing for the deer. The type of stuff I have done is: sell turkey banquet tickets, clear horse trails, fix fence.

JerJud · Dec 17, 2010

Just thought I would add somthing. First of all the program is a benifit to all of us outdoorsman if we did not do those projects like mend fences, pick up trash, and all the other things everyone is complaining about then the state would need to hire people to do those things which would end up taking more of our budget and cost us more in the end. I personally have been a dedicated hunter and I have done things from picking up trash as well as planting burnned ares with new winter feed for deer and elk. If you want to get a project that benifits the deer then you need to be more agressive in your search for projects. I do realize some are dumb and you think that time is better spent doing somthing that you would like to do but remember any project does help all of us out in the long run.

elkun · Dec 17, 2010

ok bozos. lets try this. get two or three.of you.find a project you think that will help deer. if it helps more wildlife . thats beter' go to dwr office in your part of the state. or where you want to do the work. most of the time they will agree and give you time for the work you do .

featherflipper · Dec 20, 2010

I agree some of the projects help all wildlife and sportsman as a whole and saves the DWR money. The biggest problem is 80% (my opinion) of the DH's wait until the last minute to do there hours. Which creates 100+ people fixing a fence that should have takin 10+ people and eveyone gets 8 hours of service time. I belive this is because most of the projects suck and no one wants to do them.

Another thing is most of us do not trust the DWR on the deer counts. Buck to doe ratios, fawn #'s and over all deer counts. How about let the DH's do the deer counting and help with coyote control. Then let who ever has been counting deer fix fences, lick stamps, and the other BS they have us do. That way we would all trust the deer counts and feel like we are doing some good. just my .2$

jstwnahnt · Dec 21, 2010

who do you think has been planting the shrubs for the restoration programs? Your right there are a lot of hours spent benefitting other animals aside from deer but there are a lot spent on deer specifically.

Aaron84 · Dec 21, 2010

I'm with scott the ut dedicated program is a joke. This year I washed boats at sand hollow and built a fenced in spot to turn around in at the parowen wma. A wma made for the endangered whitetailed prarie rats. The dnr guy was telling me one of the yuppies that watches over those things, took a couple days off work after a prarie dog was hit by a car on his watch. Came in crying WAFJ!!! I can't do the youth programs due to a mary jane possesion ticket 8 years ago, but even if I could those seem like a pain in the ass. I like the ideas I'm hearing tho. All count deer all day long and kill yotes for hours.

ridgetops · Dec 21, 2010

Scott, last year I cut down junipers on the deers winter range to open up more areas for browse. Now you know of one person.

Gator · Dec 21, 2010

I like the idea about having thos DH trap coyotes on the units, That sounds like a good use of traps and hours.

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".