Utah General Season Deer Survey- please fill out

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2010 Utah Deer hunters survey. I have created this survey to give direct info to the Utah DWR. Please fill it out truthfully if you are a Utah resident. You may only fill it out once, it is confidential but will delete duplicates from one user. please keep in mind these questions are for the General season deer hunts in Utah. thanks.

SURVEY IS FULL. A NEW SURVEY WITH AN UNLIMITED NUMBER OF RESPONSES WILL BE POSTED SHORTLY. THANKS.

-RESULTS ARE POSTED ON POST #13
 
Great Survey! On a diffrent post SLCMULEY said in the 1980's the average age of hunters was 27 and today the average age is 45+. If that is a fact we have a huge problem. No offence to anyone but in my opinion Utah deer hunting is strongly being influenced by hunters over 45 years of age. I personlay a'm 25 and feel most Utah general season hunting is being pushed around by guys over 45+. Which is good and bad. This is why most guys are rifle hunters, most guys road hunt, many of the older guys are for LE type hunts (Drive around and see tons of bucks).

I have been to many rack meetings over the past few years and i'm usualy the youngest guy there.

Think about this? If the average age was 27 again how many of you guys over 45 would be willing to pick up a bow, be able to find more deer, spend more time hunting, couldn't afford to buy hunts or hunt other states? In my opinion if the average hunting age was 27 again things would be very diffrent.

Again no offence to anyone i'm not trying to offend anyone. I know one day I will be 45+ and have diffrent ideas about hunting than I do now.

I would love the DWR to make a survey like this one and require everyone to take it before applying for a general season hunt.
It would take 2 minutes and let the voice of 100% of Utah deer hunters have an opinion.
 
WOW, I have 20 responses in less than a half hour. im going to have to upgrade the quiz so i can go beyond 50 responses. also i love all the responses im getting on #10. i will get some of the better questions and create a new survey soon. thanks everyone.
 
Question 9 makes the whole survey irrelevant in my opinion. It asks if you want to hunt every year but with limited quality which says if you hunt every year the quality will be limited.

This simply is not the truth. You can hunt every year with great quality if you have a viable deer population.

I would suggest removing that question or changing it so it is not misleading.





Tony Abbott
www.myfreehunts.com
The next buck to have a fawn will be the
1st.
 
I think one of the questions should be about our kids and the future of them hunting. I have twin 6 year old boys and i hope i can keep them excited for when they get to hunt. I keep them going with bird hunting but there is nothing like a elk screaming in the dark timber. I worry about there future.
 
Good call Tony, im going to get the responses from #10 and create new revised survey shortly.i also know the definition of quality correlates with how you hunt so ill try to be more specific next time. i cant believe how fast the 50 maximum responses is going to fill up. im going to find a different survey site that will allow alot more.
 
You need to fix some things to make it accurate.
What weapon do you prefer, and then say rifle only or bow only...does not work. You need to have First second and third choice.
The last question is flawed. Everyone wants a big deer, but they also have other things that are important.
Anyway hope that helps.
 
Hey everybody. Take the survey then put your comments in #10. If you are willing to shoot pisscutters cause you "need" to.

Then answer #10 as I like to shoot pisscutters so my son/daughter knows that I like to kill pisscutters. I want them to love shooting pisscutters too, so I won't teach them selective hunting.
 
#9 is perfectly stated with limited tags comes better quality!
Unlimited tags comes less quality! Unless the DWR has magiclly figured out how to return the deer herd to the "good ol days", we cant have both.
 
the survey is full. thanks for you responses. i will not be sending this one to the DWR due to the limit it put on responses. i will have a new survey up shortly with added questions and a bigger storage space for responses. i will be passing the new one on to the DWR and "higher ups". if you would like to suggest a question to post on the survey please post it on here. thanks again.
 
Here are the results and comments for the first 50. its kind of skewed due to its limited on only 50 responses. results are in %

1)What is your current age?

12-20
0.0

21-30
36.0

31-40
44.0

40-50
14.0

50+
6.0

2)Which weapon do you use most often?

Percentage

Rifle only
18.0

Muzzle loader only
14.0

Archery only
22.0

Dedicated hunter(all 3)
46.0

3)What is the average General season deer size you have harvested in the last 10 years?

Anything i can eat
0.0

2 point or smaller
18.0


100-140 inch
28.0

140-180 inch
54.0

Trophy 180+
0.0

4)How many General season deer have you harvested in the last 10 years?

None
2.0

1-2
18.0

2-4
46.0

5-6
22.0

7-8
10.0

9-10
2.0

5)How many days do you prepare for your hunt.? scouting, shooting, excersizing ect...

none
0.0

1-5
2.0

6-10
22.0

11-20
24.0

20+
52.0

6)Have you ever bought a Private, LE Auction or CWMU tag? if so how much on average?

No
94.0

Yes $0-1000
0.0

Yes $1000-2500
4.0

Yes $2500-5000
2.0

Yes $5000-10000
0.0

Yes $10000+
0.0

7)What type of hunting do you mostly do on your general season deer hunts?

Spot and Stalk 0-2 miles from vehicle/ATV
20.0

Spot and Stalk 3-5 miles from vehicle/ATV
26.0

Spot and Stalk after Hiking 1+mile
26.0

Horse Back Hunter
6.0

Overnight Pack in hunt
4.0

Extreme 3+days Pack in
6.0

Other
12.0

8)How many days on average do you take off of work to hunt deer during the general season?

None- weekend only
2.0

1-3 days
18.0

3-5 days
24.0

7-10 days
44.0

until i get one
6.0

Other
6.0

9)Which of these do you prefer on general season hunts?

Hunt every year with limited quality
46.0

Hunt every 2-3 with better quality
46.0

Hunt every 4-5 with good quality
6.0

Hunt every 5-10 with great quality
0.0

Hunt 10+ with Henries quality
2.0

10)What questions would you ask on the next survey? please type bellow.


- change question 2 as doesnt have to be dedicated to hunt with muzzy one year and archery one year and rifle one year.
- how many days do you spend afield?
how many deer have you harvested in the last 10 seasons.
how far do you travel to hunt?
- what would you say the buck to doe ratio is in your unit that you like to hunt?
Do you think we should do 3 pnt or better?
- Where does the dwr get their "accurate" herd information to base their decisions on????
- why are People against having bigger deer? when on the mountain would you rather see a 2 point, a young 4 point, or a mature buck?
- Do you agree with the dedicated hunter program? I believe people in the program should be guaranteed a tag each year however, they should not be allowed to hunt all three seasons. This has ruined the area I currently hunt.
- How many total years have you been hunting?
Do you have kids that hunt? If so what ages?
How do you think the future looks for your kids?
- I want to know fawns per doe ratio. All I hear about is bucks per doe ratio.
- Rephrase #9-If deer numbers stay the same as we see in the field now, which of these do you prefer? If deer numbers drop off then I could hunt every other year.
- Do you feel that cutting hunter numbers to improve quality of hunting is a good or bad idea?
- make all tags go for one deer for two years. than you can hunt both year if you what or take your deer the first year.
- How has the deer population in your area changed over the last 10 years?
- do you surport all the extra tags . banquets cwmus.expro ect....
- 11.What Unit do you hunt most often?
12.What is the deer herd looking like in that unit. Increasing, decreasing, stable, severly diminishing.
- Question 10 is not fair. I hunt every year and see great bucks now. That is the problem with surveys. People make them to get the answers they want. YOu right now can hunt every year with great quality bucks
- Why cant we restructure the way decisions are made. IE get rid of the wildlife board.
- What unit did you apply for Northern, Northeastern, Central, South, or SE? On average how many hunters did you see on your hunt?
- are you in favor of more archery only areas? What are your thoughts about the archery only areas? would you like to see more of them?

These units crank out henry quality and you can hunt them every year with 4 month long seasons with way more people then you can any rifle area. This is not BS either!!
- Would you prefer?
29 units or
5 regions
- Define Quality... Seeing More bucks? Or seeing more deer?
- What do you think is fair for a CWMU tag split. 90/10 80/20 70/30 60/40 50/50.
- Great survey. Lokking forward to results.
 
sorry muleslayer, it limited me to 50 people filling it out. i found a new survey tool and i am making a new survey that is unlimited. i will have it up in the next few days.
 
Do you have other outlets advertising this survey? It would seem to me that it would be beneficial to getting more accurate results if this were available from other places besides hunting forums. I would venture to guess that most frequenting hunting sites are the exception to your typical hunter (myself included). Most of us on here are on the die hard end of the spectrum. Results from such a poll would seem to represent a small, specializedsegment of the hunting population if it were relegated to this forum.

It's akin to doing a survey asking; what type of food is best?

Mexican

Italian

Greek

Chinese

And then running a survey on a site that's made up of mostly Asian folks. . Does that stand to produce useable data?
 
Rydub is working on a new an improved survey that he will send the results to the dwr. This survey would only handle 50 or people to fill it out. He is trying to get a survey that shows several thousand peoples opinion and situation. He will then show it to the right people and maybe we can do some good for our deer.

In Rydubs next survey be sure to send the link to every hunter you know. Lets try and get a better feel for the average hunter. Because there is no way in hell the average hunter is killing a 140-180 avererage buck. This first survey shows most of us MM are hunting a lot more and a lot harder then the average Joe.

Again be sure to send the link to ever general season hunter you know. This could be very valuable information and information we could all trust. Lets try to get over 10,000 people to take this new survey. Maybe then the DWR will listen to we the people.

Thanks to eveyone that takes the survey and passes it on. This could get very interesting.
 
Im going to try and get it to different outlets so that the average hunter gets a chance to fill it out. this is more of a preliminary to get the questions needed figured out. ultimately what i would like to get done is to get the DWR to implement a required survey to all of there hunters so they could get better input from the public.
 
good idea. A survey should be required before anyone can purchase a license. This would help the division determine deer killed and we could have a much better opinion of all those hunting. This would be a great step towards managing deer in the future.
 

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