How wide is this deer?

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I was out doing a little scouting and came across this deer. How wide do you think this deer is?


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I'd say somewhere around 28". Good looking buck with great potential.
Would be nice to see this buck later in the year.

Eldorado
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-20-11 AT 07:39AM (MST)[p]Ha! You poor suckers are the reason the term "ground shrinkage" was coined. No wonder you all see so many "180" deer!

That deer MIGHT make 26" but I doubt even that.

He's nice, but he has weak backs....maybe next year.

"What's good for me, ain't necessarily good for the weak minded"
 
nickman- you lookin' at the wrong picture?? This one's in the sage, and if he's only 26 then I'm further along the alzheimer's track than I though.
 
If his ears are 18" then he is about 25-3/4". But that puts his eye to eye centerline dimension @ about 4-3/4" which seems a little close to me. I don't have one handy to measure right now. What is a typical eye to eye centerline dimension? If it is 6" then this deer measures 32".

See here:

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& Here:

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If someone knows a correct eye to eye centerline dimension let me know and I'll scale my drawing.

\_jared_/
 
I would put this deer right around 30". He is definitely wider than 26. I have shot two bucks that are around 26" and this deer is wider than both of those bucks.

Hawkeye

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I'm betting this guy is just over 30" then.

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These are scaled images by the way (if that's not obvious).

jared
 
18 for the ears (alert) is on the conservative side...it's more like 20-21 in my neck of the woods. Also this deer's body is blocky and large. This deer's been around for a few years.
 
I think part of the confusion is we don't really know what you mean when you ask "how wide is this deer?".

Are you wanting inside spread or outside spread?

I would guess somewhere around 27" inside spread.
 
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Look at the size of the deer. He has a big body. Deer ear width varies some. I have shot deer that have 20-26 inch width when looking straight forward. You are usually safe to say most deer ear width is around 22 inches. Has an ave sized head.

I would guess he is 29-30 wide outside measurement.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-20-11 AT 10:12AM (MST)[p]One of the earlier posts stated that buck has a small body. I'd like to know where that member does his hunting because to me it looks like that buck has enough age that his belly is sagging and his backline isn't strraight like younger deer. I have always thought those are the telltale signs of a mature deer.
 
Thanks all of you for your input. I figured him somewhere around 30 outside. Just wanted to see what the rest of you thought. I will post a side view of this buck later this evening.
 
dang! that is a good looking buck! keep your eye on that. is it a public tag? and if so does your tag match the region?
 
Once he got onto MM cyberspace he instantly become 35"+ and high 190's...

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-20-11 AT 04:30PM (MST)[p]24 inches wide, maybe as much as 26 - wouldn't be surprised if it were only 22.


UTROY
Proverbs 21:19 (why I hunt!)
 
22" between the eyeguards maybe ;) Looks to me like he's about a 28" frame but those G2s could stick out just a hair more. A little flare on the backs can up the spread a couple of inches pretty easily.
 
I am feeling under equipped on here today......so many guys with 10" "lower units".

I am actually stunned that all these posts are not done "tongue in cheek"...... Obviously, very few of you have ever seen a 30" rack.

"What's good for me, ain't necessarily good for the weak minded"
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-20-11 AT 11:37PM (MST)[p]wow. do you have to be an a$$hole to know what you're talking about on monster muleys?
 
Top buck probably 27" inside close to 30" outside with that point going out on the back right side. Bottom buck 29" inside and 30.5" outside. Both bucks are awesome!!
 
wow, the first deer in biological history to have 12" ear spread.

What are you smokin' Roy?
 
Buck 1 and 2 are the same deer arent they?
I would guess 30-32 wide (inside) main beams around 28"
I know you didnt ask but looks like he has some length coming yet and will probably be in the mid 180's to low 90's.
But I dont look at nearly the mule deer buck's some of you do.
I have a good tag this fall, and I would be shootin. booner
 
Thought I had a good side view pic but they're blurry. Guess I'll have to shoot it so I can measure it. Its in a general area. Gonna try archery first then rifle.
 
My buck is exactly 26 7/8" at his farthest outside spread at the G4s...

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I think the buck in question is no doubt 3" wider than mine...

He's definitely a 30" buck...

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"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
Well looking back I may have been a little low on the 22 side - but he ain't no 30 incher. 26-28 AT BEST. Plus pics can be very deceiving - I still wouldn't be blown away surprised if he came out around 24 or 25.



UTROY
Proverbs 21:19 (why I hunt!)
 
I would say 30 inches the ear spread should be 22 inches and it looks like he goes at least 4 inches past his ear on each side. That should make him a 30 inch buck.
 
Here's the problem with ear spread... People measure them while holding them spread out like the wings of a bird (22")

BUT, when the animal is alive and has you're attention the ears are spread but also canted forward..So what was once 22" while dead and spread out is actually closer to 18"... Just some food for thought..

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http://www.nevadarecordbook.com/stories/field judging deer.pdf

Mature mule deer are generally 20-22" ear tip to ear tip. My wasatch buck hanging on my wall measures a hair over 22" at the ear tips. His antlers up at 24.5 wide, and he's just barely beyond his ears.

Roy, you really think this deer is only 1-2" beyond his ears? More in the 4-5" range if my eyes are straight.

I also measured my deers ears. Each ear was about 8" wide, from eye to tip, width wise (not total length of ear). This deer's left antler is at least 1/2 the width of his ear past the tip of his ear, and probably 3/4 the ear width.
 
Measure it proportionally, if you believe the deer has a 30 inch spread he is 22.5" deep in the chest and has 21 inch ear spread,I don't think so.

If the deer is 20 inches deep in the chest he is 27 inches wide and his ears are about 19 inches a bit more likely IMO.

I held a tape measure to the screen and used math to figure it proportionally for my numbers.

This deer has a deep chest for a 4 or 5 year old deer but fairly normal to small head and ears. If you shoot bucks figuring them all to have 22 inch ears you will be disappointed more often than not. He might finish off in the low 170's IMO.

Disclaimer : I will not guarantee my numbers and the conclusion is based on personal experience.LOL

Bill

Look out Forkie, FTW is watching us!
 
I think your crazy if you think that buck is anything less than 29" if not 30". Here's a pic of a buck that I killed and I know exactly how wide he is. How wide do you think he is without his kickers. We're just talking mainframe here.

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-22-11 AT 08:18PM (MST)[p]Well that is partially my point exactly.

As to what I am smoking? - Well nothing. I think his ears are canted a little forward and not laying straight out flat like you are assuming. Given that, the distance of the original photo and his ugly velvet rack that is distorting the perception a little, I think that in acutality he is not as wide as he appears. I am not a professional guide and don't have an obligation to keep a promise to a client to get him or her a 30 inch deer so it doesn't matter what I think.

I am saying there is a lot of variance in what he could be based on the pic itself. And I am not saying he is not a big deer, he certainly is, just saying it is hard to tell and if I am an honest field judge of bucks, then I am going to have a tendency to underestimate and be pleasantly surprised when the tape measure presents a number bigger than I had estimated. I would be very happy with this buck if he were 26 to 28, if he does go over 30 - bonus! But, if he only measures out at 24 or 25 - I am not going to cry foul and think I shot the wrong buck just because he appears to be "way out past his ears".

Let me just put it this way - If you have to debate about how big he might be, then he is not the giant that ends your hunt on some of the better LE units. If you are on a general unit - no way would you ever hesitate, but on the Henry's? On the Paunsaugunt? Southwestern CO? He is one you have to consider passing up because a "NO DOUBTER" might be around the corner.

UTROY
Proverbs 21:19 (why I hunt!)
 
I guess you can call me crazy then because I don't think he will sniff 28, but that doesn't make him any less of a buck and I think Roy has nailed it with the thought that the ears are pinned forward.

Only one way to know and anyone who acts as if they know for sure (and a few here are) are taking themselves a little bit too serious. Doesn't matter if you have a 30 incher or ten on the wall to compare this buck to because they are all different.

Go ahead measure the ears on your mount or the distance between the corners of the eyes or whatever, IT'S A MOUNT not a deer.

That's a great deer Marley and Congrats for killing it but it doesn't make you the resident expert on antler width.

The OP asked how wide everyone thought the deer was and many guessed, he didn't ask for guarantees just opinions. The fact that someone doesn't agree with your expert guarantee doesn't make them crazy.

Bill

Look out Forkie, FTW is watching us!
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-23-11 AT 00:01AM (MST)[p]28.5"

If it was possible to put a tape on him, i would be willing to put a $100. bill out that he is within 1" either way of that number!

It is a pic though and sometimes pic's are deceiving.

Joey
 
I believe this Deer will hit 29" wide and score around 175"

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
Marley....i trust you immediately put your binocs down and put the rifle to the shoulder? What a monster.....
 
What the heck, might has well guess with everyone else. how about 28". Might be disapointed if you were looking for that magical 30" mark. Nice buck all the same..
 

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