Who keeps the buck?

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Carpe_Deerem

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My first post...

This question is from the archery hunt last year. I was hunting in Idaho with a good buddy. It was his spot, and he invited me to go along. We both had tags.

Several days into the hunt, we were walking near camp. We had just gotten back to camp for lunch, and on a whim we decided to walk down the little used trail behind camp.

Unexpectedly, a 28 inch 4X5 stood up and turned broadside at 15 yards. As it was my buddy's spot and I was the invited guest, I knew it was his shot. We have hunted together for years. We have trailed a lot of deer together. We had actually talked about what we would do in this situation.

He and I both drew our bows. I waited until he released his arrow, then I released mine. This was only to have two blood trails instead of one. My buddy is a great shot and it was only 15 yards, but weird things happen, right?

Well, something weird did happen. He pulled his shot and clipped about 3 inches of muscle on the front leg/shoulder area. The buck jumped forward at his shot, and my shot hit center mass just in front of the hind legs.

We followed good blood about 40 yards and found him dead. Necropsy showed my buddy's shot hit pure muscle and hardly bled, my shot clipped both femoral arteries, and was clearly fatal.

So who gets the buck? My buddy because it was his spot and he hit the buck first? Or me, because I cleanly (albeit unintentionally) killed the buck?

Our decision was unanimous. We are still great friends, and hunt together often.

What do you think? Let's hear some feedback, then I'll put up a picture and tell you what we did.
 
You used a sawzall, split it down the middle and made 2 side view wall mounts.???

"you cannot know how little I care"
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-30-11 AT 07:31AM (MST)[p]If the exact same thing happened to myself and my cousin, there is no doubt what we would have done. The one of us with the killing shot would have tagged that buck. However, I probably wouldn't have drawn, I would have been watching my buddy take the shot. Fortunately for you guys you both shot and we are talking about who gets to tag it instead of a wounded animal that got away.

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This one is a bit trickier because it sounds like both shots were actually bad shots and you got lucky that you hit the femoral artery. His shot actually sounds closer to the target. Would a follow up have been possible on your buddies shot, could you have tracked him and put him down? Tough to say who's buck it should be, I would just split it down the middle and I guess that is what you did.
 
It doesn't matter if it was his spot and if he shot first - he didn't hurt it and you killed it. It's your buck.
 
It's whoever's buck the two of you decided it was or both of yours in the memory book. Your arrow killed the buck and if it came down to that it would be your buck. The buck would have never been recovered on your buddies hit!!!

Main thing is the memories and also that you have a great hunting buddy that you can share the hunt with and count on!!!
 
My rule of thumb is the first FATAL shot gets the deer. Never been in the situation, but always thought that would be the fair way to go.
 
Honestly, it depends on the kind of friend you have... If he is a good guy, I imagine he would concede that you killed the buck and should therefore tag it... If he's not that great a guy, he could argue that you shouldn't have even been shooting and that he hit it first and that it was "his spot" so it is his deer...

My father passed up a follow up shot on a trophy buck with his rifle that his brother had hit and knocked down (presumably hit in the antler). My uncle dropped him, as my uncle and I were hiking over to it, and after several minutes, that buck got up and started to trot off. My father did not shoot it as it could have been a mess to decide who got to tag it... Instead, he opted to let us try and find its trail of blood(which there was none) to try and get my uncle on it again... After a mile, we lost it's tracks (there was never any blood), and gave up.

So- what did you do..??


"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
If it wasn't big enough to hang in your trophy room let your friend have it.

This can go either way. Bottom line; I would not burn a friendship over a deer.
 
Toss a coin to decide who gets the buck. Both made bad shots both could have lead to a kill. In the end I would say the one that made the kill shoot gets the buck. Does not matter who's ground your hunting or who hit it first.

400bull
 
Samething happened to me and my friend on a dall sheep hunt 2 years ago. It was my friend's day to shoot and he missed the ram at 70 yards, missed again at 225, and then the ram stopped again at 525 yards. We both shot at the same time (not planning that) and the ram hit the dirt. When we got up there there was a perfect shoulder shot and a blown off front hoof. I have a pretty good idea who killed that ram but he went home with it and I went home empty handed. That was a tough $12,000 pill to swallow.
 
I'm not a fan of the "shoot on three" hunting technique. I can see if the buck was about to get away, wounded. But to shoot on three, not for me. I don't want to be put in the spot where we have to decide on who's buck it is. Now this is just a personal preference, I'm not knocking you or your hunting, to each his own.
Sounds like your situation ended up OK. Who got the buck?
 
carp, the facts are a little off...I know cause I was there and I know the result Of this scenario. Good to hear from you and I hope things are going well. That was a weird situation wasn't it. Your buddy probably would prefer to remain unidentified..so I sure wont spill the beans. Funny who you run into on the net!
 
I too have always went with first blood. I have finished off many bucks other people shot first fatally and not and have not taken any of these. There a lot of if's and;s or but's here like if you never shot could he have still ended up killing it. I will always shoot after my buddies as I hate to lose an animal, but if they hit it in any way its theres.
 
Your buck. If I were your buddy I wouldn't want a deer I didn't kill.


Government doesn't fix anything and has spent trillions proving it!!!
Let's face it...After Monday and Tuesday, even the calender says WTF!
 
>carp, the facts are a little
>off...I know cause I was
>there and I know the
>result Of this scenario. Good
>to hear from you and
>I hope things are going
>well. That was a weird
>situation wasn't it. Your buddy
>probably would prefer to remain
>unidentified..so I sure wont spill
>the beans. Funny who you
>run into on the net!
>
>
>



well, based on that, I am guessing that carpe did not "seize the deer" in this instance.....to those with mullets, that is funny because....nevermind.

It would be interesting to hear all versions of this story now...


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It sounds like the majority of people who responded would have kept the buck. That is, in fact, what I did. He is mounted in my dining room and unofficially scores 168.

Hunting is a funny thing. A great hunt with great people leads to great memories. When I look at that buck on my wall, I remember how much fun we had on that trip. I'm honored that I had the chance to be there. But I also see a giant asterisk hanging on the wall next to him. Many times I've thought about hauling it over to my buddy's house (although he is nearly out of wall space with all his mounts).

If I had it to do again, I would not have shot. I would rather have the buck live or die from his arrow alone.

Dikndirt, well done. You are the man. I changed the year, state, etc., and you still recognized the story. It was a strange situation.

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