Ruttin' Muley Meat

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Another thread brought up the topic of meat not being very good on deer shot during the rut. A lot of people responded that if you know what your doing its good.

I have never shot a rutting muley, so I was curious to know what needs to be done differently when butchering a deer thats been rutting. Any tips would be appreciated.
 
I was told if you give it a milk-bath overnight it will help.I have never tried it though.I would go with Sausage and pepperoni.

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I don't know, but I'd say, based on my elk experience, don't worry about it. What I'd say is don't shoot one that has been eating sagebrush. Shoot one out of an alfalfa or corn field and don't worry about it. This has a bigger affect on the meat than the rut does.

My first elk was rutting pretty hard and was p-ing all over his stomach. Take plenty of gloves and cut the skin off his stomach, that he has p-ed on, and chuck it...BEFORE YOU START GUTTING HIM. Change your gloves often and don't get any of the p-ed on hair on the meat.

BTW, I couldn't tell my first elk and beef.
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we always skin them completely making sure to remove all hide to get rid of the scent glands on their legs and head.
 
Cutting the hock glands off really helps. Take plenty of hide around it. I believe the odor permeates the meat through the body cavity after gutting and especially if it hangs a while... We are convinced it makes for better eating.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-10-11 AT 08:40AM (MST)[p]We always skin our rutting deer from the neck down so the last thing you deal with is the scent glands on the hocks, then take great care in assuring there are NO hairs left on him. We wash our hands and knives after touching the outside of the hide in any area he may have pi55ed on.

Forgot to add we age the meat for at least 7 days and up to 14 or so and remove ALL of the casing that develops on the outside of the carcass.

Is it a pain in the azz? Yes.

Is it impossible? NO.

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It taste no different then any other deer unless you take care of it like a tard.

Shooting it in the guts, then gutting it and getting more gut juice and poop all over it. Drag it out whole with a wheeler to the truck so it gets all dirty. Then throw it on top of the wheeler and let it sit there for a few days until your ready to come home. Then throw it on top of your wheeler and drive home without any ice. Then take it to all your friends buddies houses to show it off.

Geezzzzzz I wounder why it taste like crap?


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People dont get it. Skin the prick almost immediatly, quarter him out and put it in game bags. Keep it clean and wash any hair off when you get back to camp then put it in fresh game bags. Let it hang for a few days and it'll taste fine.

People say the same thing about antelope meat, "cuz they eat sage brush" and that it tastes like schite! Its by far my favorite game meat you just gotta know how to care for it.


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I have my whole deer made into 2 types of sausage...Love it


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That time of the year is cool to cold. One of the best deer we've haven eaten was a ruttin' buck. I went to skin the deer and cut myself fairly bad and figured I'd wait a few days before getting back to the deer. The hide was froze on the deer and it took three weeks before the temperature moderated enough to skin it and cut it up. Great meat!

Probably shot at least 20 ruttin' buck and only had one that was strong and that one was one that a meat cutter did. Most I have cut up myself, but some were butchered by meat cutters and there is a difference in cutters.

The total secret is this: De-bone the meat and then get every ounce of fat off. (Fat and Bone ruin both deer and elk). If a butcher won't do both of these don't use them.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-10-11 AT 12:29PM (MST)[p]I hear this all the time if you take care of it, it will taste great. I completely and totally disagree. I've always taken care of whatever I kill. Hide comes off as soon as it hits the ground, then into a cooler room for around 7 days to hang. Cut it up with no fat or bone left on any steak. But I can smell a rutted up buck steak when its cooking. And if you put a september buck steak and a rutted up november buck steak in front of me and blind folded me i'd pick out the rutted buck 99/100 times.

Eat a corn fed midwest whitetail and a rutted up migrating mule deer and tell me there's no difference.

If he smells rutty when I walk up to him he gets turned into pepperoni and sausage.
 
Its very interesting about the topic of skin the deer or not, I really don't understand the logic, unless the temp is hot and you need to cool the meat quickly, why such a rush to skin it. I here that it makes the meat taste bad if you don't, If that was the case the meat would aready be bad, didn't that deer pack that hide and hair around for years before you shot it. I have never heard a good reason to get it off quickly, we never skin the deer untill we are ready to cut it up. unless like I say the temperature is such you can't cool the meat fast enough. Waiting to skin the deer ensures clean meat, keeps the dirt off, the outer layer does not dry up and require lossing meat. We have cut up hundreds of our own deer over the years, the seceret is to keep the meat clean, wipe the blood off, and when you cut up the meat make sure all the dirt, grime, slime and whatever are discareded, Our meat is always top notch, rarelly does it taste wild. I can always tell when venison was not taken care of properly because you will taste it. For heavens sake, shoot your beef in the feild, skin it, drag it to your truck in the mud, skin it quick and let the outer layer dry up and get crusty, see how that meat tastes, A butcher however skins it and puts it in a clean controlled area which is good. thats just my 2 cents.
 
With the animal quartered throw it in a cooler with cold water, make sure all the meat is covered with water. Pour one carton of table salt and about 2-3 cups of vinegar, let it soak for at least 24 hours. Might have to also put ice, depending if the meat has already been cooled. Rinse the meat with cold water after 24 hours, hang and let meat drain til processing. This method has always worked for me.
 
Thanks for all the information guys. I am hunting the extended season in Utah so hopefully I can get one before they start rutting. With money tight this year the meat is far more important to me than the antlers. If I cant get it done before then, I just may take a doe instead. Some may look down on that, but it is what it is and I need some meat.
 
No matter what anybody says...nothing really helps!!! Either they are used to muscleing it down or are just used to it...period. Rutting buck meat is just plain nasty! Follow the advice given earlier and just give the meat to friends.

Elk, on the other hand, seem to be a different story and the rutting activity doesn't seem to have much effect on the meat. Or i'm just used to it and muscleing it down?! Lol...

Good luck!
 
Agree with what you said Tagsoup although I think I could pick it 100 out of a 100. LOL. Where are all you guys hunting these mule deer in the rut. Didn't know there was that many mule deer hunts in the rut anymore. I know eastern Montana and Alberta have some late hunts, but most deer hunrs now end before the deer get real stinky. I have killed bucks in Colo. when they used to have the late hunts, late Nov. Dec when you kill a real rutted up mule deer you will know it, it will make you puke when you get close to it. I have ate a lot of mule deer, from some killed in August to many killed in Dec.,some killed late after the rut aren't bad but I would like to see someone eat a real rutted up mule deer. I killed a big buck in southern Colo. in Dec. one time my ex. partner who was a butcher couldn't help skin it, it smelled so bad. The meat is also a strange purple color,made pepperoni out of it, dogs wouldn't even eat it. Eat away guys you have a stronger stomach than I do. LOL
 
I'm sure some individual animals are different, but my experience is about like that of Tagsoup. I killed a buck a couple days before thanksgiving a few years ago on a late hunt here in Idaho and the meat was about the worst I've eaten in 35+ years of hunting. He was definitely rutting hard. I just killed a buck of about the same age in Wyoming on the Sept 15 opener and he's excellent, same field prep and care, which includes trimming everything that isn't lean, red meat (on deer only).

It was well known amongst the early settlers that "summer" venison was superior to that taken during the colder times of the year. In the frontier days in the eastern US the settlers preferred bear over deer once the fall came (bears were extremely abundant on the eastern frontier due to all the chestnuts and other food). My experience also supports what has been said about bull elk not seeming to be affected in the same way by the rut. A bull moose I took during the rut (chasing a cow) was pretty stinky, but the meat was great, so they may be like elk in that regard.
 
Having 3 months to hunt muleys every year, I've killed a lot of them during the rut. Vension is a huge part of our family's diet. I've shot some abolute rank monsters that stunk to high heaven. I've never once had an issue with them tasting bad. On the contrary, I've had some amazing taste from big ol' mature bucks in full rut. I've had doe tags where I've harvested immature does (fawns of the year) and cooked the young vension steaks on the grill and also cooked up rutted ol' muley steaks at the same time. Guess what? I've found the flavour to be about the same. Last year I had 4 deer in the freezer. 1 mature whitetail doe, 1 mature mule deer doe and 2 mature extra large muleys killed during the rut. All tasted amazing.
 
BCBOY, would you please tell us your method of taking care of the meat? Do you skin right away, no gut method, gut, hang the deer with hide on for a few days, or does it just depend on where you have it down?

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Proper care seem to be the ticket.

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-14-11 AT 08:43PM (MST)[p]>BCBOY, would you please tell us
>your method of taking care
>of the meat? Do you
>skin right away, no gut
>method, gut, hang the deer
>with hide on for a
>few days, or does it
>just depend on where you
>have it down?
>
>GBA

I've done all the above. Depends on the situation. The last 10 years or so I've been hooked on the gutless method. Just a lot easier to get the animal off the mountain. Sometimes the hide and bone are delt with at the kill site for ease of packin' and sometimes I leave hide on and bone in if the packin' ain't that far or I have help. Sometimes I cut the meat right away when I get home and sometimes I cut up to 10 days later. Depends of how busy I am. When it comes to rankness of ruttin' meat it really has a lot to do with how clean it is. The cleaner the better. Hair, needles, leaves, dirt ect have to been washed off each piece of meat. I also am a firm believer that you need to deal with the back hocks quickly before you start processing your deer in the field. They piss all over those hocks and if you are careless and get that near your meat, you will be tainting your vension. I am one of those insaine guys that cuts them off and puts them in a baggie to use later in a future hunt. Nothing better than real tarsal glands for an scent blocker and attractant. :)
 
Thanks BCBOY, I was pretty sure that would be what your response. Bottom line is rut hunting requires more conscious field care. I am hooked on the gutless method too and I am anal about keeping the meat clean and getting it cooled off as quick as possible. I hunt rutting whitetail bucks in Michigan and will be again in couple of weeks. What drives me crazy about the folks back there is they leave their deer hang for 3 days or more without taking the hide off. I realize it's cold there but I believe IMO it leaves pockets of heat long enough to taint the meat. And for some I'm sure they don't take as much care around the hocks and keeping that piss off the meat just from hand transfer alone. My mom wouldn't touch any buck meat taken in the rut for years. She loves whitetail, take doe meat to her and she will cook up a huge feast. But she has since changed her mind about buck meat after I killed one a few years back and took care of it my way. She couldn't tell the difference between buck and Doe meat. It's all in field and butchering care.

I know the boys back there love to put the whole deer in the back of their trucks and go show them off. But I cringe when I see it as that deer has no way to cool off other than being gutted, the hide holds heat for a very long time. Kill it on a warm day, leave it laying on its side in the truck bed for hours with them nasty rutted pissed on hide and scent glands is asking for some nasty meat IMO. Oh and you never see that with a Doe unless it's a youths first deer. Might be the reason it makes difference.


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