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elkun

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how many would vote to shoot lions on sight. no bs on why or why not. just yes or no; its just a survey ....
 
around here? YES!!

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
After having one stalking me at under 20 yards with only bow in hand this year, I sure would have liked to have felt like I could have popped him one with out worrying what the consequences would be. Not a time I wanted to be debating ethics with my self. I wish I could have just shot no regrets.
 
No

They are a big game animal and should be managed as such.

Also, they do not have a reproductive rate/ carrying capacity to withstand un-regulated hunting (ie. Coyote)
 
Without a tag? NO - it is poaching.

With a tag and hunted by legitimate means under proper regulations as dicted by the state? YES - if it is the right cat.

Then I would send the meat to BuckSnort.


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>Yes, until the deer numbers are
>back to thriving levels.

Well that'll be about 10 years, cougs arnt to blame for all of it


"Its about the chase, Not the kill"
 
No, to all of you who say yes you are just as bad as all the other big game poachers. just saying.
 
Yep. I do and will. I buy a tag every year and will shoot every lion i see as long as I have a tag. Here we have a year long season and we can take 2 cats a year. Populations are still out of control.
 
Shoot every f'n one of them.
There ain't enough Deer left to feed them.
You want em to do the same thing to your f'n Elk Herd?


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chill out; show them to me its.s just a survey. about the elk the dwr has just about done that.
 
Big bunch of mis informed people. Sad that you guys just dont get it.
Fact... Lions have been here as long as the deer

Fact... Deer populations used to be better right, in the old days, like when there were the same amount of lions as there is now.

Fact.... there are more lion hunters now then the good old days when deer population was better

Open your eyes people Get real Keep blaming it on the lions and see where it gets you.

NO
 
Elkun,
The DWR might of almost already wiped the Elk out but most Hunters will still blame the Lions.


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Did you ever think in the good ole days them ole boys did shoot every lion they saw? Just somethin to think about?
 
Every self respecting deer hunter should have a lion on the wall, Although through Legal methods!!!
Yak.

For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security.

Thomas Jefferson
 
Utah should adopt Idaho's mulitple purpose tag and allow hunters to tag a mountain lion with a deer tag.

As of right now as it is I will not shoot something that I cannot legally tag....
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-17-11 AT 07:41PM (MST)[p]In Idaho lions were predators (shoot on sight) until the early 1970's when they were declared big game by the IDFG and tags were issues.

Up until then they were not only hunted but were poisoned using 1080. It seems that the lion population survived those days just fine.

My answer is yes, you should be able to legally shoot a lion on sight.

That being said, I have never had an opportunity to shoot a lion. They are tough to hunt without hounds. You cannot use electronic calls on them in Idaho either, just hounds or stumble onto them.
 
Pauns, Im sure they did shoot every lion they saw, as does everyone nowadays.

ELKUN, unless you sent a mean pm to everyone of the other 18 people who replied with more than a yes or no then go pound sand.
You ask a stupid question like this and expect people to only answer yes or no?
 
Lot's of poachers here. I'll have to admit though, I'd be very sympathetic to the poachers in Kali as it relates to cougars.

You have to admit it is nothing short of pure comedy how there is complete outrage for one form of poaching over another. Amazing how nobility of the honor code around here changes so long as the ends justify the means.
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-17-11 AT 09:12PM (MST)[p]In Arizona,
From 1950-1960 there were 2429 lions killed

From 2000-2010 there were 3280 lions killed

Deer heard is declining at the same time lion harvest is going up??????????


1911 Well said
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-17-11 AT 09:23PM (MST)[p]There ain't no poaching going on as far as i know. The question was, "how many would vote to shoot lions on sight. no bs on why or why not. just yes or no; its just a survey .... "

I, and a bunch of others here, would vote "Yes". I've had my chances but i have yet to pop a cap at a Mt. Lion.

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
Bud, only 12 out of 45 posts are a yes or no so at this point you might as well just let it play out. Dont single me out cuz im not a "Cat Hater" :)
 
No. If you guys said yes to this anwser then i assume that you guys will shoot a bull elk on sight, cause they are to blame also for the decline of the deer herd. you can't just blame the lions.
 
Tag in hand and quota not filled, yes. Quota filled, no unless I felt I had to in self defense.

If I cross the line on one game law it would be too easy to start skirting the edges on others.
 
I'm gonna start a New Thread:
Shoot all TARDS?
Just answer Yes or No:D

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I say yes but I live in Kali where they are without a doubt a huge problem for the deer herd.

azdogman your figures don't account for all the cats they poisoned back in the day so....

Bill

Look out Forkie, FTW is watching us!
 
no shooting at mr. kitty cat bess. ive heard he is under cover for the dwr. and it would be a big big fine.....but i allso heard founder would match fine with bounty.....$$$..
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-18-11 AT 06:21PM (MST)[p]>In Arizona,
>From 1950-1960 there were 2429
>lions killed
>
>From 2000-2010 there were 3280 lions
>killed
>
>Deer heard is declining at the
>same time lion harvest is
>going up??????????
>

good point sounds like they need to shot some more especially when the deer herds are hitting rock bottom. no need to have a bunch of B&C cats running around.

Funny thing is back in the day you could have more lions because there were more deer! No days with lower deer numbers it only makes sense to cut the lions back because there is no deer. The only point your post proves to me is there is a surplus of lions to shoot if people keep shooting them more and more every year.

I also say you should be able to charge 5 bucks more for the deer tag in Utah and be able to attach it to a cougar if you see one. Great idea!

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LAST EDITED ON Feb-09-12 AT 08:30AM (MST)[p]No. try to Justify it any way you want. Poaching is poaching. I would turn someone in for
poaching a Lion or bear same as I would a big Buck.
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-09-12 AT 09:17AM (MST)[p]Answer is no
And yes it is poaching
Should we shoot all poachers on sight? Answer: Yes
 
No


Government doesn't fix anything and has spent trillions proving it!!!
Let's face it...After Monday and Tuesday, even the calender says WTF!
 
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back in the day they didnt have to report there harvest and most probably killed lions on sight. Nevadas lion management is pretty liberal otc tag i beieve you can have upto 2 tags? they still have plenty of lions. they are reclusive enough that they wont be wiped out. get some pressure off the deer herd. back in the day that everyone fails to recognized is the intense predator control that was going on. coyotes cats etc.
 
Food for thought: Coyotes are open game in Utah, you don't even need a hunting license, hunters education, or anything. Coyotes are still considered to be overpopulated here and there has been call for all kinds of measures because "Shoot-On-Sight" hasn't erradicated them yet either. That being said.

Yes.
 
the answer is YES! The questions isn't would you shoot one on site? (poaching) the question is would you vote on shooting them on site which would make it legal to do so. So enough with the poaching comments. Is shooting coyotes on site poaching? no, it is legal.
 
it looks like .if dwr did what most hunters want. mr long tail would be geting his azz shot off..at a price we all could afford,,,
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-10-12 AT 07:58PM (MST)[p]My bad I did not read the question good enough. Now I understand the question better, I still say NO. The way it is right now you can buy a tag over the counter and shot a lion on a lot of the units year round or until the HO number is reached. And from first part of March till the end of May you could shot a lion, with a tag on almost every unit in the state south of Salt Lake City. Sounds pretty close to what your asking for.
 
no, even if it were a yes, nothing would change. How many lions do ya actually see with a gun in hand and could actually get a shot at. Not very many. And for all you out there that say you see several every year, BULL####. You see tons of em huh, just wanderin around in the middle of the day. Not likely.
 
azdogman wrote: In Arizona,
From 1950-1960 there were 2429 lions killed
From 2000-2010 there were 3280 lions killed
Deer heard is declining at the same time lion harvest is going up??????????

How do you suppose they counted all of the lions that were poisoned in the 50's and 60's?
 
I guess I should clarify my yes. I think it would be fine to shoot all people find. but it's not like it will change how many actually get killed. I have always had a tag in hand here in ID and the only lion I have seen was in the spring when I couldn't shoot it. If a few more get killed so be it.
 
Hey elkun?

Are them Lions Competition for Dinner in your neck of the woods?:D

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they are competition for every one. now you go work on that sheep hunt,,,drive safe. dont want to see you run over any deer on the way out thier, but if you happen to see a lion fee free to go down in the bar ditch to get him.. .thats not a slc bar' cougar....
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-11-12 AT 08:54AM (MST)[p]>In Arizona,
>From 1950-1960 there were 2429
>lions killed
>
>From 2000-2010 there were 3280 lions
>killed
>
>Deer heard is declining at the
>same time lion harvest is
>going up??????????
>
>
>1911 Well said

Your logic doesn't hold up because you can't compare harvest and extrapolate to the population as a whole. In the 50's, people subscribed to "shoot any you see" and the total cat population was most likely much less than today. Now, with tags and limited harvest, the harvest is higher. What I draw from that is that there are way more live cats out there today than in the 50's

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
I think you should be able to shoot them on your deer tag if you wanted.

Take out more than you brought in!
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-11-12 AT 12:11PM (MST)[p]Yup...you guys are a bunch of bozos! Every thread ends up in a pissing match....love it!
 
Yes with a tag. I believe in being honest. I could have poached lots of deer and elk but my father taught me as a boy to follow the law. In some units of Idaho the cats are protected and out of control. If I had dogs I would have a tag.
 
Yes....if by the book and following the law. To the guy that laughed about the stalker lions - I guess you have not been there before.
 
Some areas yes to get there numbers under control. In others where they aren't a problem no. The wolves need to be killed until there are 100 left and manage them at that number!
 
Well elkun!

Did you go to the EXPO?

You could have petted a couple of kitty's!

Mighta found you a Cougar or two too!:D



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sttm. no expo. kenny says. i ask to many questions, like how much are those kittys//?, and why are some of the people at the dwr sill working there......hope every body had a good time,,,
 
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-16-12 AT 08:41PM (MST)[p]we are not talking about hunting with dogs,we are talking about just coming across them.so how many of you guys see them all the time?
 
NO!!!!!!! In Nevada the quota for lions doesn't even come close to getting filled. The numbers taken has only went down and the age class and weight also. People are killing more 60 pound females than adult males. Every time I read that its all predators it makes me laugh. It just shows who spends time in the mountains and who doesn't.
 

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