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LAST EDITED ON Dec-21-11 AT 03:28PM (MST)[p]I am normally an apathetic kind of person when it comes to politics and what not, but the ski link project has gotten my ire up. For anyone that is not familiar with what I am talking about there is a bill passed in congress that proposes the sale of 30 acres of land in the Wasatch Extended Area for the purpose of building a lift that will connect Solitude to the Canyons Ski Resort.
If you want to learn more about it for yourself these sites are very informative.
skilink.com: this is the site that the would be developers have created to inform you on the pros of the project
stopskilink.wordpress.com: This site has information on the cons.

As an archery hunter I am very opposed to ski link. I love the extended. What a privilege it is to hunt big bucks in my back yard. There is enough legislation going on in the hunting arena that seem to limit our opportunity on this unit enough. Now the ski and real estate industry is encroaching upon out access to these hills. I'm not a fan of slippery slope logic, but if this goes through it sets a precedence that would allow other resorts to expand and privatize more of the Wasatch.

I am joining up with several other organizations that utilize these canyons and are interested in them retaining their beauty and wilderness. I encourage any hunters that want to keep the extended in tact to get educated on the issue.
 
30 acres! Really? The sky is falling over 30 acres? While I sympathize withe the hunters who use this 30 acres, this seems a classic example of NIMBY - Not In My Back Yard. I'll probably never utilize this lift, so I don't really care if it is bulit or not, but I can't find any good reason to oppose it either.
Bill
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-21-11 AT 01:45PM (MST)[p]Llama, I am with ya on this.

Of all the National Forest land that is on the wasatch (within the Wasatch extended) and we can't share another 30 acres to skiers? That seems a little pathetic to be riled up over such a small piece of real estate. The habitat in the area would be bisected by the lift, but I don't see how that would really effect deer on their summer range. If the lift is used for summer (for what ever reason), the deer may exhibit some avoidance of the area around the lift. But I really doubt it would have much impact on the deer herd.

It's going to take a lot more than 30 acres for me to ever side with a tree hugger!!
 
I think the last two posters lost the significance of the OP and that is not that 30 acres is going to hurt that area, but it's the precedence that it sets. Look at it like the wolf situation. They started with one area and now want the friggin things in every state with no control on the numbers whatsoever.
 
Topgun,

Really? Do you really think that if this ski link goes through, then the precedence is set, and the whole Wasatch will be turned into a ski resort? I highly doubt it! I think we need to be realistic in thought. Do you really think the federal government will start selling or trading thousands of acres to benefit a ski resort, becasue 30 acres was traded? I highly doubt that as well. But then, thats my opinion, and you are entitled to yours, even if we disagree.
 
The problem is that there is policy put in place by the forest service that prevents any ski area expansion. This has kept other ski resorts from previous attempts to eat up more real estate. Talisker has found a loop hole that takes the public process and existing policy out of the equation by going to Washington. I can assure you that the other resorts are sitting back hoping this precedence is set.
I don't know what will happen and if the extended will really be turned into a ski resort, but I am going to draw my line in the sand right here just to make sure that it doesn't...
 
I thought precedence had all ready been set when Snowbird got all that land in Mineral basin in Utah County .

On the one hand I agree that I hate to see any more growth up there , but on the other hand I believe we need to pick our battles carefully .

If you look at maps for Big Cottonwood it really is amazing how much private property is all ready there , but yet we still get to hunt most of it because the owners allow us by not posting it .
 
Maybe if enough of us get involved we could talk them into putting a stop right on to of the ridge and give all hunters free access all summer so we could ride the lift in to hunt. :) Like that would happen. I think it is not as big of a deal as most may think. I dunno, I'm not supper informed on the topic but I kind of think it is stupid any way. I don't think that many people are going to use it. They really think people will drive all the way from salt lake to P.C. just to ride a long lift back over the mountain. Maybe a handful from my side of the mountain will use it but is that enough to justify having it. The people who will profit from it seem to think so. Is it going to impact the environment that much? I'm not convinced. As long as they don't make a big private line strait through that we are not allowed to cross I don't think I really care if they build it. As far as what it will start to allow ski resorts to do I don't know. Global warming is going to destroy the ski industry around here anyway right!? Hey I've heard most the ski resorts just lease forest ground anyway and that as long as it is not ski season that is public ground. what are your thoughts on that? Anyone tested this theory?
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-22-11 AT 01:00PM (MST)[p]Heck, I'm pretty sure I spend more days skiing than hunting. Probably 20-25 days doing lift serviced alpine and 15-20 days nordic track skiing. I think I'm in better shape in the winter than summer/fall.

Can't get too nervous about 30 acres. That's all of 0.05 square miles. Can't hunt inside the local ski area boundry. Back in the old days, I used to shoot blue grouse inside the ski area boundry.
 
It is an interesting topic. I wonder what some would say if a tram was proposed between Alpine, WY and Big Piney, WY or Aspen, CO to Vail, CO. Will the tram displace animals? It effects a small foot print on the ground, but the shadow it throws on the land will be much larger than 30 acres.

I was talking with a fellow that says the supports are structures and hunters must they keep the 600 foot buffer. Not sure it is correct, but you can see the logic behind the thought.

We are probably going to loose a large basin to a ski resort expansion this year or next. Beautiful country that many people hunt.

www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/52687264-90/county-snowbird-utah-build.html.csp

www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/51584662-79/snowbird-resort-american-forest.html
 

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