Trapping Lions

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OK, we've had the discussion on shooting lions, like it used to be in most states years ago. It also used to be legal to trap lions. Should it be legal to trap lions?

Again, a simple yes or no.

And yes, I know you can trap lions in Texas and I think you can trap lions on private ground elsewhere. But should it be legal in other states?
 
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Trapping can be a very effective way to manage any game. Cats are not overly intelligent and in some areas trappers have problems keeping lions out of bobcat and coyote sets. Generally lions will blow the jaws off the smaller traps and make their escape, but I know of at least one lion held in the jaws of a 1.75 coil spring. Many trappers are using larger traps for bobcats--not so much for added strength, but to increase pan area.

There would need to be a balance or I expect the hound hunters would howl as lions are no doubt easier to quickly trap to quota than to kill behind dogs.

Hound hunters have the better option in terms of pick and choose and can easily pass up a female or young lion while releasing one from a trap without harm to lion or trapper would be a dicey deal at best. I know at least one trapper who has done it many times, but it is not recommended. I'm not sure of the survival rate of the lions he released, though they all did walk away and he has some scars to prove the fool hardiness of the process. Using snares, there would be no option, the cat will be dead when the trapper finds it (unless using foot snares).

Another factor to consider is that as the wolf population expands, it may decrease the number of hound hunters willing to risk their dogs to hunt lions. I'm not a dog guy, but can appreciate a dedicated hound hunter willing to give up what he loves for appreciation of the value of a good dog and it is well established what wolves do to hounds when they can get a hold of them. This possibly could lead to decrease of the only consistent and really effective way to keep the lions in check besides trapping.

A split quota for trapping vs calling/hound hunting would be possible and once the quota for one is full, only the other method would be allowed for the season until its quota was filled as well.

I don't harbor a grudge against hound hunters and would love to hunt a lion that way sometime--though I'd need to get into a lot better shape! However, as an occasional trapper, I see no reason why an opportunity shouldn't be available to trap a lion as well.
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-13-12 AT 04:46PM (MST)[p]No, I run hounds and I don't want my hounds stuck in a trap that can hold a lion.
 
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Excellent post MMWB.

I can only add a few things.

I know of several guys that can relase trapped lions, I also know several that will never attempt it again.... There seems to be a technique or heck of a lot of luck when doing it. I have not caught one, yet, but it is just a matter of time as ther are lots around my bobcats sets.

The Idea of a spilt quota, acutally sounds like something that might work.
 
So what is legal, say in Utah when you find a lion in your trap. Are you suppost to call the game warden or what?
 
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I also say yes. Again, I like the thoughts. I also think there should be a quota, but we have some areas here in Wyoming where it is very tough to hunt lions with dogs because of the constant and strong winds. At the very least, trapping lions on privately owned lands should be legal.
 
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> yes , And you will
>only do it once ,
>a lion will turn a
>5 foot catchall pole into
>gagbage. its bs we cant
>trap lions legally here in
>utah we can run bobcats
>with dogs but cant trap
>lion w iron.
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>'IT AINT EASY BEING ME'

Catch polling a lion is a fools errand...Not to mention a cat will choke out in seconds.And you claim to be a "predator guy".

I've turned over a half dozen loose, aint no thang.
 
Yeah, besides the fact that a lion will take the pole away and spank you with it, cats choke down very easily (small lung capacity) and there is a much narrower window between unconscious and dead than with canines.
 
>> + 1 SPRINGBEAR
>> yes , And you will
>>only do it once ,
>>a lion will turn a
>>5 foot catchall pole into
>>gagbage. its bs we cant
>>trap lions legally here in
>>utah we can run bobcats
>>with dogs but cant trap
>>lion w iron.
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>>'IT AINT EASY BEING ME'
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>Catch polling a lion is a
>fools errand...Not to mention a
>cat will choke out in
>seconds.And you claim to be
>a "predator guy".
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>I've turned over a half dozen
>loose, aint no thang.

JEEEZUS Come on reddog give me a little credit AND ONLY A HALF DOZEN NOT VERRY GOOD AT CATCHIN LIONS i didnt say i practiced this just stated most guys including the dwr use and carry a 5 foot catch all poles the last time i heard the dwr helping out a buddy they released the tom with catchploe still on the cat i just have a strict kill everything in my traps policy but hey what do you expect from a so called predator guy

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'IT AINT EASY BEING ME'
 
Well you guys are a bunch of sissy boys... My buddy has released 5 of them this year with out a catch pole and no drugs either.... Says he just askes them to be still.
Actually, I think he puts a back pack over their head.

I think the cats choking out easy has more to do with the location of the arteries in in the neck on a cat vs dog. either way I don't think I will be getting my hands anywhere near a fully awake lion...
 
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