Wasatch Front Extended Areas

bowhunter223

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Guys/Gals: Are there ANY areas on the front that are NOT open to hunting?? Namely the ski resorts....is hunting with our extended archery tag permitted on the north side of the road (big cottonwood) up @ Solitude and Brighton areas???
Thanks in advance!
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I have heard both yes and no. I think the resorts are considered private property. I dont like to take the chances. So I stay on the North side. More deer there anyways.
 
Thanks Robiland!!

Any others have opinions/facts on if any of the ski resort properties are open to us extended bowhunters??
Thanks!!
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if the resort is public land you can hunt it. if its private you cant hunt it. some resorts have a mix of public and private.
none of them make it easy for you to follow fences and they don't mark it with signs so you can get a tresspass ticket really easy if you don't know exactly what the heck your doing. more then likley you will get a ticket and it will be up to you to have proof you were in the right. So its not really worth the hassle if you ask me.

alta is pretty much all off limits city, snowbird I think is all public
brighton and solitude have both private and public.

There are other areas in big cottonwood, lambs canyon, east side of the summit, little cotton wood with private property. none of its marked and they can ticket you on any of it if they catch you. To make it even worse some of it has right of way trails going through it so you can hike to the top of a peak but you cant get off the trail and hunt or you can get a trespass ticket.

So if I were you id just stay out of the wasatch front extended until you have looked at a few maps from the county recorders office.



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Actually, I believe that unless the private property is marked as such all the way around it you cannot get a ticket. However, if you are on private property they can ask you to leave and if you don't then you will get the ticket.
 
Well here is the current law. Interpret it how you want.....

? 23-20-14. Definitions--Posted property--Hunting by permission--Entry on private land while hunting or fishing--Violations--Penalty--Prohibitions inapplicable to officers
Currentness
(1) As used in this section:
(a) ?Cultivated land? means land that is readily identifiable as:
(i) land whose soil is loosened or broken up for the raising of crops;
(ii) land used for the raising of crops; or
(iii) pasturage which is artificially irrigated.
(b) ?Division? means the Division of Wildlife Resources.
(c) ?Permission? means written authorization from the owner or person in charge to enter upon private land that is either cultivated or properly posted, and shall include:
(i) the signature of the owner or person in charge;
(ii) the name of the person being given permission;
(iii) the appropriate dates; and
(iv) a general description of the property.
(d) ?Properly posted? means that signs prohibiting trespass or bright yellow, bright orange, or fluorescent paint are clearly displayed:
(i) at all corners, fishing streams crossing property lines, roads, gates, and rights-of-way entering the land; or
(ii) in a manner that would reasonably be expected to be seen by a person in the area.
(2)(a) While taking wildlife or engaging in wildlife related activities, a person may not:
(i) without permission, enter upon privately owned land that is cultivated or properly posted;
(ii) enter or remain on privately owned land if the person has notice to not enter or remain on the privately owned land; or
(iii) obstruct any entrance or exit to private property.
(b) A person has notice to not enter or remain on privately owned land if:
(i) the person is directed to not enter or remain on the land by:
(A) the owner of the land;
(B) the owner's employee; or
(C) a person with apparent authority to act for the owner; or
(ii) the land is fenced or otherwise enclosed in a manner that a reasonable person would recognize as intended to exclude intruders.
(c) The division shall provide ?hunting by permission cards? to a landowner upon the landowner's request.
(d) A person may not post:
(i) private property the person does not own or legally control; or
(ii) land that is open to the public as provided by Section 23-21-4.
(3)(a) A person convicted of violating Subsection (2)(a) may have the person's license, tag, certificate of registration, or permit, relating to the activity engaged in at the time of the violation, revoked by a hearing officer.
(b) A hearing officer may construe any subsequent conviction which occurs within a five-year period as a flagrant violation and may prohibit the person from obtaining a new license, tag, certificate of registration, or permit for a period of up to five years.
(4) Subsection (2)(a) does not apply to peace or conservation officers in the performance of their duties.
(5)(a) The division shall provide information regarding owners' rights and sportsmen's duties:
(i) to anyone holding licenses, certificates of registration, tags, or permits to take wildlife; and
(ii) by using the public media and other sources.
(b) The restrictions in this section relating to trespassing shall be stated in all hunting and fishing proclamations issued by the Wildlife Board.
(6) A person who violates Subsection (2)(a) or (d) is guilty of a class B misdemeanor.
Credits
Laws 1971, c. 46, ? 115; Laws 1973, c. 33, ? 13; Laws 1977, c. 104, ? 1; Laws 1991, c. 178, ? 1; Laws 1995, c. 63, ? 3, eff. May 1, 1995; Laws 1995, c. 211, ? 26, eff. May 1, 1995; Laws 1999, c. 201, ? 1, eff. May 3, 1999; Laws 2000, c. 6, ? 1, eff. May 1, 2000; Laws 2011, c. 297, ? 121, eff. May 10, 2011; Laws 2012, c. 268, ? 1, eff. May 8, 2012.
U.C.A. 1953 ? 23-20-14, UT ST ? 23-20-14
Current through 2012 Fourth Special Session.
 
if someone could really answer the ski resort question that would solve a ton of questions with lots and lots of people. I know Snowbird is all NO hunting and almost all of Alta is closed to hunting besides the far side. and Who knows if you can really hunt on solitude, brighton, park city, deer valley, and the canyons. it would be sweet if you really could. The public hikes and rides bikes all over the property so why can't we hunt it?
 
Alta and Snowbird are off limits. Up Big Cottonwood, I think I heard once that you have to be a mile off the road near Solitude and Brighton resorts. Not sure if that's true or not. Up by Alta, even some of the North side is private. I went up there and they gave me a map showing me the different areas. It was nearly impossible to understand though.
 
Scott,
I am surprised that you of all people got some of this wrong. You OWN the front. Let me share what I have learned over the years with my continued research.
Alta:
Totally off limits. The city of Alta extended their boundary to encompass the entire resort and much of the land to the East and South. (This area is mentioned specifically in the proclamation) You can get a map of legal hunting areas from the Alta Township.

Snowbird:
Totally off limits. This is the only totally private resort on the front. They own the land and restrict access. (This is why Snowbird can stay open later than Alta, Solitude, or Brighton)

Solitude and Brighton:
Totally off limits. These are leased from the National forest service. This is why they MUST close skiing and by April 15 no matter how much snow they have.
I have spoken to the National Forest Service about this several times throughout the years as rumors circled that hunting was legal for one reason or another. I have been told consistently that the terms of their lease allow them to restrict firearms and hunting. (Which they do)
Consider the resorts and the town of Alta as hunting preserves that help these bucks grow so big. Hunt the fringes or wait til November and clean up.

PLEASE let me know if anyone has any evidence to the contrary, but I have been pretty thorough and seen the terms of the actual government leases.
Happy Hunting.
 
Thanks cantclosethedeal!! You sound like an authoritative source, and I appreciate you sharing your research.
Scott....are you hoping I don't go up there at all?? :)

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Cantkill By all means don't let me be the resident law expert cause I could care less is someone gets a ticket. I personally avoid all of these areas but the only part I got wrong was snowbird it does have some private because I can see it on my maps. It also has some public. I should have lumped it in with Brighton and Solitude. Id just avoid them.

If you get the alta map you will see there are areas you can hunt its not preserve like you stated its not marked and it is up to you to know where this is. Again Id just avoid it.

I also lumped in other areas you never mentioned saying they are off limits as well. Like I said you better know where you can hunt when it comes to these places or you will get a ticket. When in doubt just avoid them. Know your boundaries!


.223 I dont care where you go just know what you can and cant go so you dont get in trouble. When in doubt stay out is my attitude!


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SW,
You are correct. There are a lot of private parcels scattered throughout the front.
If you want to hunt the front, you had better do your homework.
 
Just because a map says it's public land doesn't always mean it's huntable. Several CWMU lands take over public land bordering the CWMU and include it into the CWMU and provide trade lands to make up for it. This will never reflect on a land status map and nobody will ever know until they get there and see a fence on the public land.

As mentioned previously, NF is also leased by Ski Resorts. It's public land, but you can't march up there with a rifle or you will get in some serious trouble.

Maps are just a starting point. If you are going to hunt a questionable area, you better do more than look at a map.
 
I've always wanted to go up to the bird and try to buy a ticket for the tram with my bow in hand, all camoed up just to see the look on the ticket lady's face. : ).


"That's a special feeling, Lloyd"
 
cantclosethedeal I know you can hunt on the far side of alta. when you drive the dirt road up there it clearly shows a sign saying you can hunt on the east side of the road and not the west. other than that everything else you have talked about all the other resorts sounds pretty legit to me. I think we have all just wanted to hunt on it and so rumors spread saying you can on some of those resorts.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-28-12 AT 12:37PM (MST)[p]So...take this for what it's worth, but here is an email chain I had with brighton the past day or two....
They are telling me it is OK to hunt on the property!!?!?!??!? From 2 different people @ Brighton....
Could I take this as "written permission"?? What do you all think? It's tempting to take this and run with it...??? Ready Cathy's last sentence....

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"Hello Brighton!!!
Quick question: I am a bowhunter who loves to ski and spend time on the mountain....and especially up by the resort there (Silver Lake, Twin lakes area etc).
I have a valid Utah Extended season archery deer/elk tag, and my question is this: Is hunting permitted on the Brighton property?? And up near the Twin lakes area etc etc?? (trails to access this are in the brighton parking lot area..)

Look forward to your response to clarify for me.
Thanks!!


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From: Winkler, Jared
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:52 AM
To: Jorgensen, Cathy
Subject: Re: Hunting

Hi Dave,

Yes you can hunt around this area. You will have to hike in and hike out. You may park in the parking lot but please keep in mind we are getting things ready for the winter.
Thanks for checking in. Good luck.

Jared Winkler
Brighton Resort / Marketing
Office: 801-532-4731X 268
8302 S. Brighton Loop Road. Brighton, Utah. 84121

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Jorgensen, Cathy
Sep 26 (2 days ago)
to: Randy, me

David,
I am not too sure about Jared?s response. First of all, Silver Lake is not Brighton?s property.
I would suggest you contact DWR to get the exact information. There have been restrictions in place in Big Cottonwood Canyon,
But I have heard some have been changed, but I am not sure.
I would not shoot anything from the boardwalk. The people there with their little kids always make a stink, and you are not supposed to
get off the boardwalk (a Salt Lake City Water rule).
As far as hunting on Brighton?s property, that is fine with us as long as you hunt within DWR?s rules.

Cathy Jorgensen
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-28-12 AT 03:49PM (MST)[p]WOW, That worked out better than asking advice on MM. :)

Print those e-mails up and have one of those persons sign it and your good to go.

"(i) the signature of the owner or person in charge;"
 

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