Mossback antelope island buck

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Denny Austed, 271" 36" wide!!! Get yer popcorn this is gonna get good!
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Thats a awesome buck !! Doesn't look like there is alot of places to hide out there ? I guess Denny drew out for that tag. lol
 
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This will get good haha.

Thats a monster buck. How much do those AI tags cost, I am assuming he bought it at a convention/auction?


"You sure you know how to skin grizz,
pilgrim?"
 
No way would I go on that hunt without a guide!! The terrain looks brutal and unforgiving as hell. :)

Honestly that is a heck of a buck, congrats to the hunter.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-12-12 AT 12:52PM (MST)[p]Just a good ol' boy that still loves to get out and hunt! That thing is an absolute monster! Congrats goes to Denny!
 
I agree Horsecreek....I HOPE LIKE HELL that I am out hunting all the animals he has at his age!!

Good for Denny. He has put a MASSIVE amount of money into Utah conservation and if I had his money...I would be buying the same tags at the same pace he is! Good for him!

I am not totally sold on the AI tags being fair.....but man would I LOVE to have one!!!!!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-12-12 AT 01:50PM (MST)[p]my father in law sent me a picture of this buck on the hoof! he said his friend was on the island taking pictures on saturday when he came across this buck with a bunch of does. here is a link to his website! way cool deer!

http://www.pbase.com/mfish/image/147252681



"Shoot Straight"
 
>I agree Horsecreek....I HOPE LIKE HELL
>that I am out hunting
>all the animals he has
>at his age!!
>
>Good for Denny. He has put
>a MASSIVE amount of money
>into Utah conservation and if
>I had his money...I would
>be buying the same tags
>at the same pace he
>is! Good for him!
>
>I am not totally sold on
>the AI tags being fair.....but
>man would I LOVE to
>have one!!!!!!


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It's his money and can do what he likes, it's a free country, not bashing him, I just don't think this reflects well on hunting as a whole and sad to see the dwr feeling they had to pimp out this resource. I know they could use the money for conservation but at what cost and where does it end?
 
What a donkey of a buck. The live pictures are absolutely awesome!! Congrats to Mr Austad! I think there is a place for conservation tags. Just not so damn many of them.
 
I know nothing of the guy who shot it.....so will not become involved in THAT debate....but WOW is that a big deer!

........I've hiked up LOTS of mountains in the dark, snow, cold & ....you all know. Ten years ago, I saw a REAL nice buck about 150 yards off the 4wd road. You better believe I shot him on the spot.
The photo makes the guy look old enough that he "deserves" an easy one (even if he bought it...I certainly couldn't).....if he's been hunting his whole life, I'm a little envious but don't begrudge him......can't imagine why he'd spend the money, if he hadn't.



Within the shadows, go quietly.
 
I wonder if austad puts a plaque up under each mount with the place, date and cost. Like this one for example, Antelope Island, 10/12/2012, $22,000. Then everyone who comes in his trophy room can truly appreciate the effort he put into the hunt.

I have about as much respect for this clown as those guys who hunt high fence and call themselves hunters. And I really don't give a crapola what he's done for conservation or whatever his claim to fame is...

More popcorn please!
 
What an amazing deer. The revenue generated from the deer and sheep hunts is facilitating great wildlife research projects on the island. The dollar value of trophy mule deer amazes me. But, it's nice to see the money go into wildlife research. The debate to whether or not a deer shot on the island should be considered a "trophy" or not is maybe less important than whether or not the deer should be hunted in exchange for the revenue generated for the wildlife program on the island. The morality of the hunt can be debated, but petty name calling and using this situation as a forum to make yourself seem better than the hunter is juvenile. What is a trophy to an individual should be up to the individual. As for the morality of the hunt, the state allowed it. So, if you disagree with the state, maybe your criticism should be directed at them, not the hunter.
 
Triple-bb Are you joking 22 grand for Antelope Island tag . I didn't hear what it sold for this year. But it was like 235,000 the year before.
 
when you fly over the island its not much of an island anymore. There's mudflats that stretch across.
 
>It looks like 4 - 5
>posts have been deleted since
>this thread went up.
>Do we have a conspiracy
>on our hands? Are
>one of our beloved mod's
>on the mossturd payroll?
>I'm smelling a Benghazi cover
>up here...


I just think the name calling is terrible! I hope they delete them all. The in-fighting between Hunters will be the end of our sport!

If you cant say "nice buck...congrats"......dont say anything at all.
 
That buck is awesome no matter what. However having lived in Utah my whole life and never seen the D.W.R do anything that benefits the animals I don't know how valid the argument about conservation is. It's conservation of money in their pockets is what it is. Case and point rolling over archery and muzzle loader tags for noerthern mule deer units...... you would think that not selling all the tags would be good for the animals. You know maybe increasing their odds of surviving. But no not under the dominion of the DWR the dollar is king in their book not the animals.
 
A seriously incredible animal. Mr. Austed has (and likey earned) resources that allow him to continue to chase his passion. I am not sure, however, that these bought hunts reflect well upon the hunting population. I am always encouraged to see the MM forum's ablaze with discussions about the ethics of such a hunt. Questioning our hunting practices is our responsibility and we owe it to the next generation to seriously consider what is "hunting" and what is not.
 
The State will keep pimping tags as long as there's John's to buy them. And anyone who thinks the UDWR cares one iota about anything other than $$$, you're dreaming.
 
Congrats to Denny. Great buck!!!! Hope when I'm his age I'm still hunting, all though I won't have his funds.
 
the dwr does not get this money. it goes to the island for thier use,,,, or so ive been told,,,
 
Best buck money could buy.Austad has spent more money on wealth tags than most of us will ever see in a lifetime.I think I saw somewhere that the tag drew $160K this year.
 
160K thats a deal this year ! Good for Denny. He loves to hunt like alot of us. He just has the funds to do a little more of it then most of us. This is america he can spend his money on what he likes. A lot of us may do the same thing if in his place. Obviously he has more capital then most of us. I would like to read his life story. I understand he was a doctor. How about a autobiography Denny ?
Congrats on a great buck !!
 
What an incredible buck. Saw video of him yesterday on the hoof. Was even more impressive than in the picture. That buck is what dreams are made of!
 
>the dwr does not get this
>money. it goes to the
>island for thier use,,,,
>or so ive been told,,,
>
Come on elkun!

You know they got there Cut too!



Wisz was a Hell of a Sport this year even if He did tell the UDWR to F-Off during the Phone Call!:D
15" Bases?
30" 5ths?
Missing 450" Bull!
The next 4 years is Slicks Fault,again,GEEZUS!
GOOD GAWD A MIGHTY!
 
I don't begrudge him one bit. No or little difference between this than some high dollar private land hunts or Guided Governor's tags that sell for far more than i'm able to spend.

I understand that the moneys generated from this tag go toward the Islands budget, heck yeah, sell a tag, give one to who draws it, winner-winner.

Awesome Muley! Hope he had plenty of Opportunity to pass on those incredible genes!! That said, i only see about 250", maybe 260" but would welcome someone to post a score sheet or similar.

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
How many deer/bucks are on the island? How long will the supply of monster bucks last? Be a sad day when peple cant go take pictures of these huge bucks.
 
Sage, I haven't seen the sheet yet, but I'll throw ya a couple numbers. Beams 29, G2's 21, G4's 14, inside spread 29. With 12 inch G3'S, he'll have a 220+ frame, add on 24-25 inches of extras per side, and you got 270.

He's bigger than I thought he was, and I seen a lot him for a week.


Yelum
 
Thanks Yelum, I too thought his mainframe would go 220 or so but couldn't see all the extras from the original pic. I bet he was something to see live in the flesh!

Any word on when the draw hunter gets to claim his prize?

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
>Sage, I haven't seen the sheet
>yet, but I'll throw ya
>a couple numbers. Beams
>29, G2's 21, G4's 14,
>inside spread 29. With
>12 inch G3'S, he'll have
>a 220+ frame, add on
>24-25 inches of extras per
>side, and you got 270.
>
>
>He's bigger than I thought he
>was, and I seen a
>lot him for a week.
>
>
>
>Yelum

21 G2's?? Really??? From that angle they look a lot shorter than that. Still a remarkable buck. Betcha Denny is going to be pissed when I kill one bigger with my $15 tag. ;)
 
+1 rmanwill.After DIY my whole life,I could live spending my cash knocking down some great animals at his age.Glad he still gets out there.
 
If i were to second guess one of Yelums #'s, i'm not as probably foolish to do so, it would be the inside spread. From the Pic anyway, his inside spread looks to be not much less than the claimed 36" outside spread.

Now i'm thinking, that's the spread credit. The inside sp can't exceed the length of the longest main beam!

I knew i was best off not doubting Yelum!! :)

BCboy, good luck with that!! lol

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
Mossback does it again!

What a Huge freakin' buck.

congrats

Robb

Anyone know what the public draw hunter harvested?
 
>Anybody else think the buck in
>the live photo's is a
>different deer than the one
>killed. Look at the eyeguards.
>

That is what I was thinking. Not the same Buck.



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i think its for sure 100% the same buck, the live pictures doesnt show the eyeguards very well, but if you look at any tine they match up perfectly. go back and look again. look at all the cheaters and the characteristics of them and then you will see its the same buck, no doubt.



"Shoot Straight"
 
>not the same buck but maybe
>the buck the draw tag
>will shoot
>
>
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>
>who farted?

It's 100 percent the same buck.
 
If you look at the third pic in the series - it shows clearly it is the same buck.

Giant deer! Congrats Antelope Island for growing such a beautiful animal.

That's all I have to say about that.

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>>not the same buck but maybe
>>the buck the draw tag
>>will shoot
>>
>>
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>>who farted?
>
>It's 100 percent the same buck.
>


Same buck! Looks closely at Dennys picture.. you will see the eyeguards.. Also, look at the cheaters...
 
What a toad, i am a mossback man and I can assure you that buck was taken ethically and fair chase. Congrats Denny and congrats to the mossback team, What a toad!!!
 
Yes, its the same buck. hhunter, I was actually filming him when your dads friend took the pics you linked. Great pics.

The state hunter will hunt/kill on Fri. He has his choice of 3 bucks ranging from 33-37 wide scoring 225-250.

BC, as popular as you here in MM land, I doubt Denny will know enough about you to be dissapointed in your success. Personally, I hope you do kill another monster, and one bigger than this buck would even be better.

Yelum
 
That's bull crap scopenstalk, the only reason you still have trophies to hunt every fall is because of the DWR. You are a sorry excuse of a hunter and its your kind that is going to ruin hunting for us all!!!
 
Is it possible for someone to repost the picture? I can't view this one from my computer. Thanks in advance
 
>What a toad, i am a
>mossback man and I can
>assure you that buck was
>taken ethically and fair chase.
>Congrats Denny and congrats to
>the mossback team, What a
>toad!!!

Ya, probably 8 guys with radios and spotting scopes. Yer da mann!!!
 
Triple, now you're just being negative. Doyle didn't need or use any helpers to find this buck. He hiked the island over by himself to locate the best potential bucks for his client. Then rewards several of his guys for their work throughout the year by having them join him on this hunt. They just had to watch it unfold.

I've seen pics of other hunters and they're friends/family in the field pics. You gonna critisize them too.

Yelum
 
Thanks for clearing that up. I'll sleep better tonight. And I'm sure most of us will appreciate that it was truly an honest fair chase hunt...
 
Doyle and the Mossback team are excellent hunters, and instead of being Aholes we should just support them and try to learn from them, because they know hunting and the trophies they harvest prove that.
 
I'm not, and have never been in favor of the AI hunt. Any hunter, guided or not, can kill a toad on day 1 every year. You are directing your issues at the wrong dudes. Doyle didn't make the AI hunt happen. Complain to the state heads about it.

But if you got issues with Doyle, walk up to him and tell him you don't like him for what ever reason you got in your head, but for you or any other chicken sheet to come on a board and bag on him or any other person because of what you imagine or what your cousins boyfriends dad says is lame. Truth is, he works harder than you at what he loves, and made a success out of it.

Yelum
 
There is a big difference between actually hunting and just shooting a big "Docile Trophy".
Has nothing to do with how much money you have or hunting class warfare.
Using the excuse that it is giving ammunition to the anti's and dividing our hunting heritage is complete nonsense.....
Plain and simple if you do not see the problem you are the problem, and are more destructive to the sport than anyone.

Those of us that would pass on a chance like that even if it was free are real hunters.
Throwing money to agencies to try and win over approval and justification for laziness may fool some.
How anyone could hang an antlered version of a moo cow on the wall and feel proud of themselves is sad, regardless if it cost a million or a cent.
BTW- Here is the butter for your popcorn.
Best,
Jerry
 
Frankly, I do think its better than havin them die of old age and being eaten by a yote before withering away... I hope he didn't leave a powder burn on Doyle's truck... LOL

If this were a "guess the score" contest, I would have guessed about 250"... Denny must be bigger than I thought... :D

I'm tired of the high dollar debate. It is here to stay. I will always have slightly less respect for the money hunter, but the animals still deserve respect.

When the zombie apocolypse begins, and society collapses, it won't matter whats on our walls... :D

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
All of us that go out and harvest an animal (no matter of the size) are true hunters. Having someone take you to the animal and having you pull the trigger is not hunting and should be illegal. Yes, all of us would like to have the money to buy these high dollar tags but I will tell you one thing, if I bought the tag, I sure as heck wouldn't be hiring anybody to take me to my animal. I would rather go home empty handed then take something that I didn't work for. All of us that enjoy this sport and work hard for every animal we have taken, lets thank god that all of us don't have that kind of money.
 
To be honest...it really doesn't matter what the numbers add up to. The "look" of a buck will always speak volumes over what the numbers add up to. There's nothing better than looking through that glass and having your breath literally taken away.....a close second to that, would be anytime you look up on a wall and are simply taken back at what the "look" of a buck does to you.

To me, that is the sad thing about this buck...he looks absolutely incredible - like a 240 class buck should - and I was beyond stunned when I saw the photo. However, when I saw the score that was posted along side the photo, I immediately had a bad taste in my mouth. I know, I know...that's my own problem, I understand that...but if those numbers are accurate, in my opinion, he is one of the sorriest looking 270-class bucks ever. While that statement totally contradicts my opening sentence...I can't help but feel that the numbers claimed have somewhat ruined the initial excitement I had when I first saw the photo.

The good thing is, none of my pointless ramblings still negate the fact that the buck is a straight up stud. My appreciation and congratulations go out to him for growing such an impressive set of antlers for us to look at and admire!
 
I have to agree with Yelum on this. Doyle is just living the dream! I wish I got to do what he does for a living. Who wouldn't? I take great pride and joy in any animal that I am a part of taking. Be it big or small. Its all about being out there enjoying life!




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LAST EDITED ON Nov-13-12 AT 01:46PM (MST)[p]Does anybody know if the island deer qualify for the record books? This doesnt seem like it should be looked at as anything other than a monster buck trapped on an island during the rut being monitored 24/7 by 20 guys with how powered optics waiting for a rich "hunter" to step out of his truck and blast it. Keep in mind the auction tag holder is allowed to hunt several days earlier than the draw hunter. This is not fair chase. The only good thing that may come out of this is that hopefully the money spent on the tag actually goes to something worthwile that will really benefit mule deer in utah.
 
What I want to know is this:

How Yelum knows "The state hunter will hunt/kill on Fri. He has his choice of 3 bucks ranging from 33-37 wide scoring 225-250"

I know there are more than 3 bucks left on the Island

I thought maybe the hunter had a choice of when he hunts and what he shoots. Not that I will ever put in for the tag but if I do, I certainly want the hunt to be a little different than what is described in this thread.

This hunt appears to be more canned than originally portrayed.
 
If you think this buck isn't as impressive as his score, you need to see the video Muley Crazy posted of him on Facebook. Live, on the hoof, he is everything and more IMO. The picture posted with Denny doesn't even come close to doing this buck justice. A true specimen. Awesome buck! It's cool to know bucks like this are still around and not just something you hear about from "the good old days."
 
I think that is exactly what YELUM is implying - the hunter/killer (using his verbiage) will have his choice of the top three remaining bucks on the island, and will be able to get it done on the first day, without too much of a problem.


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>LAST EDITED ON Nov-13-12
>AT 01:46?PM (MST)

>
>Does anybody know if the island
>deer qualify for the record
>books? This doesnt seem like
>it should be looked at
>as anything other than a
>monster buck trapped on an
>island during the rut being
>monitored 24/7 by 20 guys
>with how powered optics waiting
>for a rich "hunter" to
>step out of his truck
>and blast it. Keep in
>mind the auction tag holder
>is allowed to hunt several
>days earlier than the draw
>hunter. This is not fair
>chase. The only good thing
>that may come out of
>this is that hopefully the
>money spent on the tag
>actually goes to something worthwile
>that will really benefit mule
>deer in utah.

Is anything "fair chase"??? Please define fair chase. Running around the mountains with guns that shoot a half mile, bows shooting past 100 yards and muzzloaders that shoot as far as rifle should be shooting! Bet you've never done any of those?
A lotta high horses running around here




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Giant Buck! I hope to kill one with that wow factor someday. To those that are against the Island hunt, would you rather these bucks died of old age?
 
Towhee, besides Doyle, the only guys watching this buck with high powered optics were guys like me trying to film or photograph him for our own personal pleasure. And it was a pleasure. Yes they qualify for the book if they are big enough. They are free range. They can run 17 miles without stopping if they want.

Mulepacker, there are lots of bucks and lots of nice bucks, but the best 3 are what I was referring to. Of course he can shoot what ever he wants, but I know he wants to shoot the best he can. He will have to work a little harder for his buck, but thats only because of where they choose to rut. Not the hunters fault or the guides. Its not in there control.

Two years ago I hunted on a CWMU. If the biggest deer on the ranch hung out with the ladies behind the ranch house, and the owner says shoot him if you want. Boom.

Rambo, I am not in favor of this hunt, but not against the hunters hunting it. Yes, I would have rather filmed this deer for another 3 weeks, and again for several more years, and see him die or old age than have him shot. Just my opinion. Some happy shed hunter would be thrilled, as are all the guys that have picked up deadheads.

Yelum
 
Congrats on a great buck. I agree. Let a few old bucks get shot and let some hunters although few get a chance to kill a buck of a lifetime, even though it's not a hard hunt. Many people have enjoyed filming this buck over the years as well as others. Their will be other great bucks in the future. Better for some lucky or rich hunter shoot a couple bucks than them die of old age.

Next week I'm going to hunt with a Brother on a late hunt. It took him 10 points to draw. Deer will be rutting. It wont be a hard hunt. With only a few hunters and our kids with us, we hope we have some good memories and get a good buck. I'm sure Denny has had many good times, trophies, and memories and donated a lot to a sport we all love. Thanks.
 
>Yes, its the same buck.
>hhunter, I was actually filming
>him when your dads friend
>took the pics you linked.
> Great pics.
>
>The state hunter will hunt/kill on
>Fri. He has his
>choice of 3 bucks ranging
>from 33-37 wide scoring 225-250.
>
>
>BC, as popular as you here
>in MM land, I doubt
>Denny will know enough about
>you to be dissapointed in
>your success. Personally, I
>hope you do kill another
>monster, and one bigger than
>this buck would even be
>better.
>
>Yelum


My father in law has a saying everytime we have a big family meal with all the fixings, "I wonder what the rich are eating tonight?" It means, "I betcha they don't have it as good as us". In the hunting realm, I can easily apply the same logic. Regardless of how many trophy animals rich dudes buy, they will never ever come close to the joy the common joe gets when he is out with family and friends. Sure, some guides might be fun guys, but it is business and not a 'true' friendship. What I have, is way way better. I know it, and I am sure some of those rich boys know it too. They are longing for something that their money just can't buy. Their happiness is very fleating when they have success. It is never enough. Maybe the next time. Nope! The next time doesn't do it for them either. Meanwhile, you can't take the $hit eatin' grin off a regular joe's face for months afterwards when they see success. Or better yet, when they see their kid's success. That is where the true rubber meets the road and the happiness remains. True Joy! Something the rich rarely ever find.
 
elkassassin, how many people got a cut out of that island buck god only knows,to the gen public hunter , iwish you well on your hunt, i hope you dont need some coyote type guild to help you,, but if you do please get more than a couple free dvds out of it,,killing a deer on camera of that size is worth a lot,,,,
 
>Doyle and the Mossback team are
>excellent hunters, and instead of
>being Aholes we should just
>support them and try to
>learn from them, because they
>know hunting and the trophies
>they harvest prove that.


yep, just some good old boys who love to hunt, and also promote and influence policy that limits opportunity, just so we can grow huge animals, so they fetch a better price. These types of "hunters" aren't any friends of mine and far different from the hunting heritage I was taught and grew up with. They're bounty hunters and it's done more to limit opportunity much more than any anti hunting groups.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-13-12 AT 06:14PM (MST)[p]Horse Creek,
I agree many aspects of modern hunting does not seem to define fair chase. However, I think there is a big difference of killing a book buck on public land that is not surrounded by a inescapable boundery such as a fence or a large body of salty water.
 
I dont know how you can say that. Just cause you dont have the work ethic to earn the money to buy that tag someday you dont have to cry about it. GROW UP!!!!
 
>I dont know how you can
>say that. Just cause you
>dont have the work ethic
>to earn the money to
>buy that tag someday you
>dont have to cry about
>it. GROW UP!!!!

when one group wants to limit the opportunity of others I have a problem. Outfits like mossback want to limit opportunity to grow these huge animals so they can make more money in guide fees. This has nothing to do with work ethic so don't act like a child. But You're dang right I'll speak out when one group wants to limit the opportunity of another. If this guy wants to spend his money on a canned hunt than I say go for it, he earned it and the dwr obviously doesn't care about pimping it out, but mossback is in it for the bigger racks which equals bigger money! and shaping policy that takes away from true hunting heritage is a shame. so you grow up and don't question anothers work ethic when that isn't even what I'm talking about. take down the mossback poster above your bed.
 
"My father in law has a saying everytime we have a big family meal with all the fixings, "I wonder what the rich are eating tonight?" It means, "I betcha they don't have it as good as us". In the hunting realm, I can easily apply the same logic. Regardless of how many trophy animals rich dudes buy, they will never ever come close to the joy the common joe gets when he is out with family and friends. Sure, some guides might be fun guys, but it is business and not a 'true' friendship. What I have, is way way better. I know it, and I am sure some of those rich boys know it too. They are longing for something that their money just can't buy. Their happiness is very fleating when they have success. It is never enough. Maybe the next time. Nope! The next time doesn't do it for them either. Meanwhile, you can't take the $hit eatin' grin off a regular joe's face for months afterwards when they see success. Or better yet, when they see their kid's success. That is where the true rubber meets the road and the happiness remains. True Joy! Something the rich rarely ever find"

BCBOY I agree with this 100%, Ya thats a hell of a buck, congrats to denny, but the satisfaction of an unforgettable hunt with family and friends just aint there with this kind of hunt.
How big is the island anyway, and where are the other pics I can only see one??
 
"Should we just let this buck die of old age"?

Anything to justify the act I see.
Hmmmm- Guess we should start raffling off tags to the local zoo's then. Sad part is I guarantee there would be some that would stand in line to do it.
Hey Bob, check out my 450" bull I got at the Denver zoo. He was a real sly sumbtch.
Qualifies for free range since he had three acres to escape from us.....True sportsman I tell ya.
 
Hey Bob, check out my 450" bull I got at the Denver zoo. He was a real sly sumbtch.
Qualifies for free range since he had three acres to escape from

LMMFAO!!! Now thats some funny chit!!
 
>"Should we just let this buck
>die of old age"?
>
>Anything to justify the act I
>see.
>Hmmmm- Guess we should start raffling
>off tags to the local
>zoo's then. Sad part is
>I guarantee there would be
>some that would stand in
>line to do it.
>Hey Bob, check out my 450"
>bull I got at the
>Denver zoo. He was a
>real sly sumbtch.
>Qualifies for free range since he
>had three acres to escape
>from us.....True sportsman I tell
>ya.

Lol That's rich:) well played
 
QUESTION? Does anyone know if you are required to use a guide on this hunt? If so, is Mossback the only outfitter you can use? If the answer is NO to the above then why use a guide at all? I sure the hell wouldn't want a guide but maybe that's just me. I like hunting on my own or with my 2 Sons and 1 or 2 close friends but that's about it.

I have nothing against guides or hunters that use them. Just not my thing. I've only been on one guided hunt and that was only so I could hunt private land. Still field dressed my Bull Elk myself and that was by choice. Almost had to wrestle the guide over it.

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Anybody know how much he's dished out on auction tags total now? I personally have no problem with it and would LOVE to see this guy's trophy room. He has the Spider Bull, this buck, the #3 typical mule deer in Utah, and I'm pretty sure he has something like the #18 typical elk of all time. Incredible. It's one thing to spend the money and shoot big animals...it's remarkable that he's able to shoot some of the ALL-TIME greatest animals.
 
Is there some hypocrisy in the "dieing of old age" arguement? With how we restrict bull elk tags in this state there are many mature male animals dieing of old age.

Yelum,
I am familiar with the Island and have been spending some Novemeber days out there for many years. My question is can the hunter decide? I would not shoot a buck at the Garr Ranch other than with my camera. In fact I would take the tag as an opportuntiy to wander the Island for a number of days enjoying the hunt and watching the deer. Last Day Last Light I would take a buck. Since I have not paid much attention to this hunt I was simply wondering if that was allowed or if the hunt is used as a culling expedition with certain expectations of the hunter.
 
I have seen a picture of Denny's trophy room posted up or in a magazine. It is wall to wall big bucks and hugh elk. I also heard he my have sold the spider bull to Cabelas and kept a reproduction mount for himself.
 
Mulepacker, Yes, each hunter can do as he pleases as far as taking an animal, and may opt not to harvest if they choose. Not gonna happen. There are restrictions on shooting at the ranch area, meaning the animals must be a certain amount of distance from the building. Not a problem since they travel both north and south often. Like you, I would have loved to spend the months covering the island up to and including the hunt period. Surprizingly, the state hunter didn't do this for most of the summer.

This buck made the mistake of rutting at the ranch 2 years in a row. He's the 1st big buck I've seen do that in 10 years.

Yelum
 
I have one question for all the naysayers of the hunter.

You have a general season tag. You scout your butt off and find a nice XXX" deer. Opening day, you pull into the trail head and hoist up the pack, prepared to backpack 10 miles and up and down 1,000 foot elevation changes every mile to get to "your" buck. Out steps a buck like the one Denny shot before you start hiking.

Do you pass and go after "your" buck or do you shoot?

Don't bother to answer 'cause we all know that buck is going to die.
 
Read all the posts, here is what I know, my house is 4 miles from the antelope island causeway, and most sundays evenings my 6 year old and I are out on the island looking at deer.

1.Yelum is technically correct, they can run 17 miles(even farther as the lake becomes a mud flat), however, it is not surrounded by fresh water, and there is only so much of it on the island, so that argument is a little incorrect.

2.Hiring a guide is like having a caddy. You can hike the areas that contain the deer in about 6 hours(done with a 6 yr old). The reason Yelum, or any of the locals know so much is because it is easy. These are not wild weary deer, they are watched year round, the island is used a lot by hikers, horsemen, etc, and they are very used to people.

3.Yelum is correct, there are 3 other deer out there, two of which I am confident the public hunter will choose out of.

4.The terrrain that Denny is pictured in IS antelope island. The only exception being the ledges on the south where the sheep are, and the deer are not. This buck rutting at the ranch can be driven to on a PAVED road. From a parking lot you can see miles, it is not deep dark timber, not rim rock, not tall sage.

5.The DWR gets the fee from the tag(le price), the island keeps the rest. As a side note, the island turned a profit last year WITHOUT THE TAG REVENUE, so SFW and their tag DID NOT SAVE THE ISLAND.

6.Yes, his genetics are great, but there are over a hundred bucks out there that with age will be every bit as good or better. This is what happens on a game preserve, the bucks need only survive as fawns, after which their only predator is a coyote. I have watched several nights as coyotes walk a big circle around these big bucks. A lone coyote doesn't stand a chance with them, and they know it.

7.I am not that into antelope, HOWEVER, the most impressive animal on the entire island, IMO, is a speed goat. We saw him a bunch this summer, so did a lot of other "guides", and I would bet there will be pressure on the state to "save the island" by letting someone buy a speed goat tag.

8.You don't have to believe a word I say. Take the Freeport/Syracuse exit off of I-15, head west. Your on Antelope Drive. Follow this road west until you come to a small pay house, pay your $9, continue west until you reach the island. Follow the road to the south, along what was once a lake shore(now a fragmities field). Stop where you see other trucks parked with guys with spotting scopes and binos, and open your eyes. After 30 minutes(which includes stopping at all the turnoffs to look) you will see all the deer that Me, Yelum, Denny, and Doyle have seen, which means that you too are one of the worlds greatest hunters, or this hunt is just as sad as we all say it is. Either way, that $9 you and I and thousands of others paid, "saved the island", this tag was given out soley because THE DON, and SFW, did what they do best, grease politicians, and whore out the DWR.

"Your just jealous because _____, so you can't know anything!!"
 
Hoss, nice post. Wait a second, listen for it. I think I hear the Mossback calvary riding in to dole out yer cyber lashings...
 
Huge buck, congrats to the hunter.

If I had the money to hunt all over, and buy auction tags heck I would do it too. Dont hate the player hate the game.

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>Huge buck, congrats to the hunter.
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>If I had the money to
>hunt all over, and buy
>auction tags heck I would
>do it too. ...............

And so would EVERY jealous "Sum Bidge" on this site!
I can't even believe some of the posts on here.......
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