A freind had a very impresive head mount, I ask where did you get him the Kiabab, he laughed, and told me he killed it in an area we coyote hunt often, it only scored 198 and it did the buck no credit, I have seen them in the 28 inch range while coyote hunting they arew usally around the farm land areas(water) with thick washes near by,the land is flat to rolling.