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About 3 hours ago I got on a very nice muley buck and let one fly. Due to the low light conditions I'm not exactly sure where the arrow hit but I heard a solid "thwack" sound and the buck kicked his back legs and whirled around and took off running. As he was running I could see his butt start to hang low and he really started to drag for about 10 yards but then he pulled himself back together and kept on truckin. I marked the spot he was standing and was unable to find the arrow or even a speck of blood. I followed his trail for a very short while and didn't find any blood and decided to back out because I didn't want to risk bumping him if he laid down somewhere close to expire. I'm giving him several hours before I go back and look again with some help.

From the story that I have related here where would you guess I might have hit him? Last Saturday on the opener my fiance shot a nice 169 inch muley and we had the almost exact same thing happen! The buck kicked his hind legs a little at the shot and took off running leaving absolutely no blood. We found him the next morning with a complete pass through wound. She hit a little low and a little far back but still managed to hit the liver and the bottom corner of the on-side lung. He didn't even leave any blood in the spot he laid down to die! Her broadhead was a 100 grain montec that had never been shot til then and my broadhead was a 125 grain g5 stryker that had also never been shot.
 
I am not sure on a place you may have hit but I had a rancher in texas tell me they had like 50 wounded does and bucks on their large ranch in one year and over 40 of them were shot with Montecs and he would not allow them on his ranch anymore. He said they do not leave good blood trails. I have not used them myself but I would consider a broadhead change.


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>Sounds like you hit him right
>smack in the wiener!

Yeah that wiener shot drops them for a bit, but not for long.

Ok enough of the messing around. I hope you can locate you buck. Hard to say where you hit him. Animals act different even if you hit another one in the same spot he might do something different then the last.
 
Just my two cents, but he acted like a heart shot. I've seen plenty of heart shot deer kick their legs and then they start running low to the ground and eventually keel over. You should be able to find him with 400 yards. You finding no blood may mean your arrow didn't pass through and it plugged the hole...let us know the results, good luck!
 
I had the exact same thing happen to me Sunday. I hit my deer right at dark and was unable too see the shot placement. I did hear the distinct "thwack" sound and saw the buck hunch up. I knew he was hit just didn't know how good. He was quartered away and the shot felt good I figured it was a done deal. Well when we went too find the arrow we saw the buck walking through the sage flat about 100 yards from where he was standing when I shot. No being able too find my arrow or blood we backed out for the night. First thing that morning we went back and found my arrow and it was a clean pass through but it had very little blood on it. We didn't find Any blood fit the first 75 yards so we went to where we last saw the buck and finally found some blood. After about 3/4 of a mile and only finging decent amounts of blood we finally fond him bedded under a cedar tree. One more shot at 20 yards did the trick. The shot was further back than I thought and I just barly clipped one lung. I was shooting the ulmer edge 100 gr heads and I am truly convinced if I had been shooting a fixed blade head I would not have recovered this deer. It tore a huge hole through the buck. I'm sure you will find your buck if you give him enough time. Just stay patient and don't give up and you will be rewarded. Good luck
 
>Sounds like you hit him right
>smack in the wiener!

There goes the evidence of sex. Fish and game would give you a ticket for sure. If you are going to make this a habit, you better start carrying one around with you in your pocket.


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Did it look anything like this? If you look close you can see a small amount of blood where he was shot. Very similar to what you described, my buddy shot this one. Thwack, big kick, ran 30 yards and hunched up tight, took two stiff steps and we totally expected him to drop right there. I watched the whole thing from above and took this pic. He stood there for 5 minutes and slowly walked down hill. Later we found just two small drops of blood where he stood for those 5 minutes.
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We tracked him for about 200 yards and lost all sign, just 4 or 5 small drops of blood were found. Then we started the desperate grid search. Didn't find him. Looked in every patch of trees for 800 yards along what we thought would have been his path. Threw in the towel at dark after a full 6 hours of looking. Came back the next week and found him dead just 50 yards from where we gave up the week before. He ended up going 1/2 mile from the shot. He was too decomposed to really autopsy the shoot. We guessed from the picture that the arrow either caught the back of a lung or liver and high enough to keep most of the blood internal. DON'T GIVE UP!!!
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By the way, it's all he could do to keep from dry heaving to get this pic!

Let us know how it turns out?..
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-22-13 AT 04:30PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Aug-22-13 AT 04:29?PM (MST)

I agree with 30Hart on the leg kick thing...I've seen several heart shots just like that.

A good chest hit (pass through) makes a very distinct sound...like someone slicing a watermelon with a samurai sword.

As far as the hunching thing..that is a liver hit...the best thing you can do is NOT BUMP THAT ANIMAL! Back out quietly and come back in 3 hours and start carefully blood trailing. You'll probably find him dead within a couple hundred yards.

Just my experiences

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-22-13 AT 10:06PM (MST)[p]I stopped shooting at the heart because of experiences just like that.
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If you change from a montec to an Ulmer Edge, the problem typically goes away. The broad head is devistating and leaves such a hole that there is typically a great blood trail. as per your explanation You shot the deer in the heart. You should find him, but they typically run a good ways in a short period of time with a heart shot. So keep looking.
 
Just because a buck kicks doesn't mean a heart shot. A deer will kick as a natural reaction to being surpised, normally to escape a predator. If a deer is hit back, a lot of times stomach\intestine content and even the intestine itself can plug a wound channel, and leave little to no blood trail. As far as Montecs go, I have used them for three years and am well pleased with the results. The elk I shot left a blood trail that a blind man could follow. The two deer I shot left plenty of blood as well. Keep your chin up and look hard, you will find your buck.

Enjoy the moment and relive the memories.
 
>I am not sure on a
>place you may have hit
>but I had a rancher
>in texas tell me they
>had like 50 wounded does
>and bucks on their large
>ranch in one year and
>over 40 of them were
>shot with Montecs and he
>would not allow them on
>his ranch anymore. He said
>they do not leave good
>blood trails. I have not
>used them myself but I
>would consider a broadhead change.
>
>
>
>Jason Yates
>http://www.BasinArcheryShop.com
>5% OFF to all MonsterMuleys.com Members!
>
>Discount code = monstermuleys


Couldn't be further from the truth... It has nothing to do with the broadhead and everything to do with the person shooting it. Montecs, while I have killed many animals with them, are no longer in my quiver, but that is not the reason. I had a hell of a time re-sharpening them due to the angle their blades carry.
 
From the sounds of it the lack of blood either means you hit him far back or the arrow is still in him, but from you saying he was kind of hanging makes me think gut or liver. Just my 2 cents, though I know it's probably not what you'd like to hear. But it's nothing to sweat a gut shot dear can easily be found if you don't push it obviously. Also if all else fails when you go looking for him check the nearby water sources, if they're hit in the gut they mistake the pain for burning or thirst and go to the water to try to soothe or cool it.
 
First i hope you find him. I would say gut shot also and like someon else said look where the closest water hole is at. I hit one in the guts about 10 yeas ago and it was right in the water hole deader then a door nail.
 
Well, I'm guessing since you have not posted again that you did not find him.

Bummer!

Let us know


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I wonder if anybody told the Tribesmen not to shoot the Montecs in the 1800's?:D

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Sounds like it was a little bit too dark to be Stick Flippin?




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My buddy shot a deer the other night, we found a few drops of blood in this one spot but then it quit. I looked up 25 yards away and there was the arrow, another 10 yards and there was the deer, he shot him quartering away. Perfect double lung shot and the hole was as big as my thumb, the deer only want 100 yards or so. We figured the arrow plugged the hole somewhat.
 
My buddy shot a deer a few years back that reacted the same, it turned out that he'd hit him way far back. The buck went a long ways and ended up backtracking to where he had come from. It took almost a full day to locate him after extensive tracking.

Do not give up, you owe it to that animal to do everything in your power to recover. I would guess that it is very likely he is dead, and you just need to search high and low for him. If you know the approximate area where the deer in your area bed then I would look around there as they will often head back to a known safe spot when hurt. If this doesn't work then you are going to have to look for birds. Let us know what happens.
 
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