LAST EDITED ON Apr-17-14 AT 07:57AM (MST)[p]Did anyone happen to this show on PBS? It spotlights a man who lives with and studies mule deer in WY.
http://video.pbs.org/video/2365224462/
http://video.pbs.org/video/2365224462/
Nature on PBS - mule deer special
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Captain_coues
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I watched it last night. I thought it was pretty good. Interesting how the deer would walk up to him.
sticksender
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Good deer footage, but had to turn it off when the guy started talking about deer mourning their loved ones so much that they die from grief.
Castnshoot
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I liked the video work.
Not hard to see that he made friends with these deer using sweet treats.
The editing could have used some help.
All the bucks headed to the high country in early spring had a full set of hard antlers.
The buck he claimed to be the twin of the dead buck was clearly the buck he called Babe, not some other buck.
When Babe shows back up on the winter range the next year he has the same busted antler.
Not much mention of the the real problems facing Mule Deer. Kind of left someone who does not know better thinking that hunters are the biggest problem.
When I saw the opening shot of a cowboy with his arm around a doe, I thought this is going to be some kind of Broke Back Mountain,, deer story.
And it was...
Not hard to see that he made friends with these deer using sweet treats.
The editing could have used some help.
All the bucks headed to the high country in early spring had a full set of hard antlers.
The buck he claimed to be the twin of the dead buck was clearly the buck he called Babe, not some other buck.
When Babe shows back up on the winter range the next year he has the same busted antler.
Not much mention of the the real problems facing Mule Deer. Kind of left someone who does not know better thinking that hunters are the biggest problem.
When I saw the opening shot of a cowboy with his arm around a doe, I thought this is going to be some kind of Broke Back Mountain,, deer story.
And it was...
nfh
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I seen the last 30 min. Was entertaining.
I did like how he touched on how hunting Is important and how he hunted. Also how wolves and lions are killing the deer numbers.
and how he stated the game and fish need to wake up on how to manage deer.
But there was a few things he said that made me shake my head to. I didn't like how he was walking up to the newborn fawn.
I did like how he touched on how hunting Is important and how he hunted. Also how wolves and lions are killing the deer numbers.
and how he stated the game and fish need to wake up on how to manage deer.
But there was a few things he said that made me shake my head to. I didn't like how he was walking up to the newborn fawn.
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It's on again tonight at 1000 pm if anyone missed it
grosventrehunter
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Some of you guys make me laugh. The guy seems to know what he's talking about for the most part. I enjoyed the video and found it pretty interesting, and sad in a way. Will it stop me from hunting? Nope, but I think if you ask most mule deer hunters they will tell you how much they truly care about the animal.
Why is it so hard to believe that mule deer grieve when one of the herd members die. Who on here has had two dogs, horses, or other pets that when one dies the other grieves? Are mule deer that much different? I think not.
Why is it so hard to believe that mule deer grieve when one of the herd members die. Who on here has had two dogs, horses, or other pets that when one dies the other grieves? Are mule deer that much different? I think not.
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I watched it all and found it interesting I really didn't think it was anti-hunting although it could be used that way by someone that had that agenda.
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I watched the entire video on PBS a few days ago and it left me with very strong opinions.
I felt that Joe Hutto was no different than the whacko Kid from California that tried to live with the grizzly bears in Alaska.
this film defines the term "anthropomorphism".
This film was the 2014 version of Walt Disney's Bambi, with an undeniable anti hunting agenda.
I watched knowing full well how the non hunting public will respond, with sadness, remorse and a strong dislike for hunting and hunters.
I saw where the film was spliced to prove the guys point, mixing fall and spring footage and then the grand finale when his pet buck and confidant was killed by the "evil" hunter.
I am truly surprised that the Mule Deer Foundation is supporting this propaganda (as seen on their Facebook page) as hunters are the main supporters and founders of this organization.
Might not be a popular opinion but it is exactly how I felt after watching this movie
Any non hunter that watches this piece will come away with a very negative opinion of mule deer hunters and hunters in general.
In this age of dwindling support of hunting and shrinking numbers of hunters, something that humanizes deer and paints the hunter as a threat to all wildlife is something we simply don't need.
We need to promote the good that caring hunters do, we need to show their love and passion for wildlife and wild places and how state and federal game managers regulate and restrict hunting permits where hunters sometimes wait decades to hunt in certain areas due to the incredibly limited hunting permits and highly scientific research that goes into modern wildlife management.
We need to show the incredible good that HUNTER FUNDED conservation organizations do in protecting and promoting wildlife habitat, but instead, we are showing a "cold hearted" "evil" hunter" that "heartlessly" kills Joe's friend?
I simply can't believe that this is being viewed as a good thing, all it will do is turn more of the general public against us.
whether we like it or not, it is the non hunters that are the overwhelming majority of this country that allow us to hunt, once the non hunters are transformed into anti hunters we will no longer be able to hunt anything....period.
Trust me, I live in Northern California and know exactly how it works.
I have watched the tear jerking television commercials that the anti hunters broadcast, as they promote ballot initiatives to strip us of our precious lifestyle, the non hunter can't stomach the images and punches the ballot with a vengeance then we are screwed.
I've seen it over and over in my 50 + years here.
The guy producing these films is smart and uses a passive aggressive stance to send his message that flies right over the heads of many.
In the film he dresses up like your good old Wyoming boy in wranglers, boots & a cowboy hat, he says that he has nothing against hunting, yet grabs his rifle when legal hunters move in on "his" deer, then the melodramatic scene where his beloved buck is killed when he nearly breaks down in tears, that alone speaks far louder than anything he verbally communicates with the viewers.
Sadly many hunters appear to be buffaloed by this guy's piece.
I felt that Joe Hutto was no different than the whacko Kid from California that tried to live with the grizzly bears in Alaska.
this film defines the term "anthropomorphism".
This film was the 2014 version of Walt Disney's Bambi, with an undeniable anti hunting agenda.
I watched knowing full well how the non hunting public will respond, with sadness, remorse and a strong dislike for hunting and hunters.
I saw where the film was spliced to prove the guys point, mixing fall and spring footage and then the grand finale when his pet buck and confidant was killed by the "evil" hunter.
I am truly surprised that the Mule Deer Foundation is supporting this propaganda (as seen on their Facebook page) as hunters are the main supporters and founders of this organization.
Might not be a popular opinion but it is exactly how I felt after watching this movie
Any non hunter that watches this piece will come away with a very negative opinion of mule deer hunters and hunters in general.
In this age of dwindling support of hunting and shrinking numbers of hunters, something that humanizes deer and paints the hunter as a threat to all wildlife is something we simply don't need.
We need to promote the good that caring hunters do, we need to show their love and passion for wildlife and wild places and how state and federal game managers regulate and restrict hunting permits where hunters sometimes wait decades to hunt in certain areas due to the incredibly limited hunting permits and highly scientific research that goes into modern wildlife management.
We need to show the incredible good that HUNTER FUNDED conservation organizations do in protecting and promoting wildlife habitat, but instead, we are showing a "cold hearted" "evil" hunter" that "heartlessly" kills Joe's friend?
I simply can't believe that this is being viewed as a good thing, all it will do is turn more of the general public against us.
whether we like it or not, it is the non hunters that are the overwhelming majority of this country that allow us to hunt, once the non hunters are transformed into anti hunters we will no longer be able to hunt anything....period.
Trust me, I live in Northern California and know exactly how it works.
I have watched the tear jerking television commercials that the anti hunters broadcast, as they promote ballot initiatives to strip us of our precious lifestyle, the non hunter can't stomach the images and punches the ballot with a vengeance then we are screwed.
I've seen it over and over in my 50 + years here.
The guy producing these films is smart and uses a passive aggressive stance to send his message that flies right over the heads of many.
In the film he dresses up like your good old Wyoming boy in wranglers, boots & a cowboy hat, he says that he has nothing against hunting, yet grabs his rifle when legal hunters move in on "his" deer, then the melodramatic scene where his beloved buck is killed when he nearly breaks down in tears, that alone speaks far louder than anything he verbally communicates with the viewers.
Sadly many hunters appear to be buffaloed by this guy's piece.
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I thought the show was pretty anthropomorphic. Not exactly real biology and ecology of mule deer. Pales in comparison to what they are doing in Wyo with Migration Initiative.
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-23-14 AT 06:30PM (MST)[p]Anthropomorphic to the point of creepy.
Like the part where he is laying in the deep grass with that doe stroking her {it} while sweet taking her {it}.
PBS = Pure BS
Like the part where he is laying in the deep grass with that doe stroking her {it} while sweet taking her {it}.
PBS = Pure BS
