Deseret Deer

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ricecanyon

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I just found out that I drew Deseret Deer. Anyone ever hunted it before? Any insight on what to expect would be great.

Thanks

Rice Canyon
 
Todd Black is the biologist up there and he has been working on several projects to increase the deer numbers up there. He is usually roaming around on MM, so hopefully he can chime in or send you a PM.

I know the bigger bucks have been hard to find on DLL in recent years. The reduction in tags and more habitat projects and better management should help DLL to come around in the future. We had a fairly mild winter in N. Utah, so I would assume you would be able to find something you like.

What are your expectations/Standards?
 
I am not picky. I would just like a nice buck. I am hoping for a nice 4 point.
 
LAST EDITED ON May-22-14 AT 11:12AM (MST)[p]First, congratulations on drawing the tag, we will be in contact with you in the future. However, please realize that your email notification and likely even your tag will get to you long BEFORE we get your information (name address phone no.) from the UDWR indicating that you did in fact draw the tag. WE WILL NOT send anything to you prior to getting that information from UDWR, so please be patient with us in getting information out to you.

I'm not sure how many points you had to draw. Personally I wouldn't burn a bunch of points on DLL especially if i was a DYI guy. If you drew with a few points, it will be a fun hunt and you will see lots of deer.
We really are managing for older aged class deer. Most of the time the public hunters who go at it on their own shoot younger deer. It's your tag, you can harvest what you like. You likely won't have a problem shooting a 4pt if that is what you You will get a letter indicating dates, time, rules, liability waivers etc.

Here is some of the language from that letter...

Hunting Information

Every hunter is required to check in before they start hunting. Every hunter is also required to check out before leaving. Even if an animal is not harvested, we still need to know that you are off the CWMU.
Hunters may shoot only one animal. Once an animal has been wounded, (BLOOD IS DRAWN) no other animal may be shot. In order for us to continue quality management practices, we will be collecting data from your harvested animal, these will include weights, gross B&C score, tooth extraction and in some cases blood samples or organ samples.

Buck Deer:

Meeting location: main ranch/the tent (figure 1)
Meeting date/time: 10:00 am
Hunt Dates: Monday, October 6th at 10:00 AM through Saturday, October 11th at 12:00 PM
Guided: one guide is assigned for every 2 hunters. If you want the guide to assist you, you are welcome to use them, if you want to go at it on your own (DYI) you are welcome to do that.
Trophy care: no
Meals/Lodging: none provided. You are welcome to camp at designated areas on the ranch. You are welcome to bring a camp trailer or tent.
Guest: each hunter is allowed to bring one guest

Happy to discuss further if you would like or I can have you contact our hunting managers.

Todd


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Todd,

Talked to your earlier this year about a anterless tag, well I got my buck tag years ahead of schedule and as a result I will be ineligible for the antlerless. Next year will be my year on your ranch.

Brawnson
 
Todd,

Thanks for the info. I had 6 points. I am excited to be able to hunt Deseret. I never thought I would draw this tag. I just put in thinking I would get another bonus point.

Thanks,

TJ
 
Hey Todd,

Really disheartened reading your post. My buddy and I also drew these tags but we had 11 points. I now have a lot of questions, I don't want to monopolize your time as I know you're probably busy but if you have some time I would like to chat either by email, pm, text or phone. Whatever works for you.

Thanks
 
rice,

You should have fun on that hunt. My advice from others' stories is to not let the guide talk you into a 500 yard shot. They are serious about the draw blood rule. If you are not comfortable with a shot presented, don't pull the trigger no matter how much pressure is being put on you to shoot. One bad shot and your hunt can be over just like that.

Dbrick,
I hear there are some great bucks up there, but also alot of hunters/clients. Be patient and be picky until you see "The One". Hopefully you will get a guide that works well with you.
 
I do not have first hand experience, only second hand stories. I believe you get 1 guide for 2 state hunters. The guide is free but tipping is encouraged. They will treat you good. Depending on schedules and numbers of paying clients, you may or maynot feel rushed. It is a business after all. Be patient and don't cave if you feel you are being rushed, they will not rob you of your aloted days.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-09-14 AT 09:43PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Oct-09-14 AT 05:27?PM (MST)

Well, my hunt is over. It started Monday Morning at 10 AM.
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After getting checked in, we set up camp and went for a ride. We found a place to glass and saw 5 bucks and a moose. This little buck is the only one that stayed around long enough for a pic.
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At 4pm we met up with my guide (provided free of cost). My first guide was Tyson. He was a great guide. we saw a ton of deer and a lot of bucks the first night.
On Tuesday morning I got a New guide, Kenny. He was full of information. We saw a ton more deer and a ton of bucks. We also saw some Moose and Elk. Still nothing big enough to shoot.
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In the early afternoon we took another drive. We saw some antelope and a deer with a goofy right (it goes down and curls under his eye).
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In the evening on Tuesday I got another new guide, well guides, Austin and Colton.
We glassed for a while and saw a few bucks, but everything bedded down. After a while they started to get up again. After a while Austin says he sees a nice buck and tells me to take a look. He says,"its 27" wide and has 17" G2s. I decided I wanted to take a shot at it, so Austin sent Colton with us down the hill. After hiking up the draw and seeing the buck again at 315 yds, I settle in and with just a little bit of Buck fever miss. We thought he was gone, until I see him pop up over the closest ridge at 244 yds. This time I didn't miss.
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Austin was right, when we put a tape on him, he was 27" wide and had 17" G2s. He was a 6 year old buck. I know he isn't the biggest buck in the world, but I am extremely happy with him.
I had a great hunt. We saw over 70 Bucks. It was a great experience. The guys on the ranch were great.
 
looks good to me, congrads on a nice buck and a quality hunt


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Great buck, and all the guides you mentioned have been great with my boys and I. Youngest had a doe antelope tag last month and he tagged out in thirty minutes on the first morning. What a great memory and I like how the back forks hook on your buck. Thanks for sharing the pictures and the rest of the story!
 
Great buck! Thanks for the pics and story...we don't get very many reports on that place for the antlered game there.
 
Glad to see you had a good time and took a good buck. It's always good to hear about CWMU success stories. It seems like we always get the bad side of the program and rarely the good side.

Congrats on a nice buck!
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-10-14 AT 09:56AM (MST)[p]Deseret was the name of the state proposed in 1849. It covered Utah, Nevada, and parts of Wyoming, Arizona, California, Colorado, New Mexico, Idaho, and Oregon.
It shrunk to mainly Utah, Nevada, and part of Wyoming and Colorado to become Utah territory in 1850.

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I love this thread. Easy story. Nice photos. Great hunt.

This would get my vote for the Hunt Adventure Challenge winner *AS IS*

Way to get it done..!!

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
HyoWyo??? Is that an ignorant, bigoted Wyoming thing?

I can help you with the definition of "bigoted" if you want-just let me know.
 
>HyoWyo??? Is that an ignorant,
>bigoted Wyoming thing?
>
>I can help you with the
>definition of "bigoted" if you
>want-just let me know.

Are you an over sensitive puss or what? Seems to me you are ashamed or something.

I asked a simple question then answered it. I don't recall bashing Mormon's.. but maybe you hear voices.. IDK and really DGAF.
 
Since I can't read your mind and can only go off the way you phrased your question, why don't you tell me the motivation behind it and why it is even relevant?

Why does it matter if the ranch the original poster hunted on has any ties to the Mormon church? It is an odd question given the context and I assumed (maybe wrongly and if so, I apologize) bad intentions based on the way you came across.

I can assure you this much, if you hunt the Deseret ranch, your guides will not be Mormon missionaries and you will not be forced to join the church, so you can rest easy :)
 
Kenny is about as good of a guy as there is. Seriously...salt of the earth kind of guy. The Lands are good folks too. Sounds like they took care of you. I wouldn't expect anything less! Congrats on a great buck.

As for Deseret, the LDS Church (Mormon) owns the land. Well, most of it. But it does not run or manage the hunting. That is contracted/leased out to 3rd party entities. And anyone that knows what is going on up there will say that they have done a great job. You don't have to be "Mormon" to hunt there. So no, I wouldn't say it is "Mormon thing."
 
I am also back from my hunt, my buddy and I both drew tags and were very excited to go on this hunt. We had heard all about road closings and restrictions and guides telling what you can and can't do or can and can't shoot. Our experience couldn't be farther from the truth. From the moment we walked on the ranch and had the initial meeting with Tyson we were treated like we were the only guys on the whole place. We were told you may have a guide at no charge if you'd like and if not you're free to do what ever you'd like. "The ranch is yours". We were then told to meet our guide at 4 at camp and eagerly awaited. When the guys pulled up we were set up with Trevor (Flip) Gillman, and we couldn't have asked for anymore! This guy is a beast with the glass, after having some chat about what we were looking for and I believe it was his personal mission to find the exact deer we were after. He was patient and dead set on getting the job done right. In the end we both harvested exactly what we wanted and couldn't be happier with our experience! The management up there is amazing and they have great animals! Don't hesitate to put in there...you'll love it. I couldn't be happier with the toad I harvested!
 
I was up with my buddy and his dad who they both drew deer tags, both shot great deer, the dad killer a 202" 8x7. And I will admit I have talked trash on Deseret. But I will say the ranch is amazing and the staff , animals, country were great. I will eat some of my words I have said in the past. Great buck by the way.
O--one
B--big
A--ass
M--mistake
A--america
 
Glad to hear, see some positive experiences, hopefully there were many more. Always good to get some positive press. I think overall the public hunts on DLL went very well so far, we will still continue to hunt a few cow elk through mid December, best of luck to all.

Todd Black
 
>Deseret? Is that some Mormon thing?
>

If you're asking about the word, yes, it's a Mormon thing! It is a word from the Book of Mormon meaning honeybee (referring to industry). That's why Utah is the Beehive State and why the beehive appears on most Utah State Government property (including Utah Highway Patrol vehicles) and why we have the Deseret News as the 2nd largest newspaper and why the LDS Church's thrift stores are Deseret Industries (commonly called D.I) and why the LDS Church's welfare program brand name is Deseret and why there are numerous commercial entities called Deseret (Books, Credit Unions, Insurance, etc.) and, of course, Deseret Land and Livestock since it was (and maybe still is) part of the Church's welfare program. Naturally, not everything named Deseret is church owned, but it does make for good business sense to give your business a name that most Utahns relate to.

As far as the DLL hunts go, they are connected to the LDS Church only through the land they happen to be on.

That's probably more information than you wanted, but I hope it answers your question.
 

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